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I was notified that I failed my CFA for USNA and as I took it quite late, the news of this came after the deadline. All requirements for my application are done. Is it still possible to obtain an appointment if I failed my CFA or should I abandon hopes to get in?
 
I was notified that I failed my CFA for USNA and as I took it quite late, the news of this came after the deadline. All requirements for my application are done. Is it still possible to obtain an appointment if I failed my CFA or should I abandon hopes to get in?
I know of a “person” within my district that has failed the CFA 4 times for USMA. Like she submitted them and got failed 4 times. She just got another notification that she failed and would have to try again in the following weeks. The only reason she is even getting retries PAST the deadline, is due to her stellar grades/SAT.

In my opinion, that is unfair. I would expect a MILITARY DEADLINE to be a DEADLINE. If she could not pass her CFA in the GIVEN amount of time, then in my opinion, it should not forgo another try past a set deadline. The CFA is most DEFINITELY in your control, and whether you truly want to pass it or not is up to you.

If you have stellar grades and among the top 5% of your class, then the academy might grant you another try.
 
I know of a “person” within my district that has failed the CFA 4 times for USMA. Like she submitted them and got failed 4 times. She just got another notification that she failed and would have to try again in the following weeks. The only reason she is even getting retries PAST the deadline, is due to her stellar grades/SAT.

In my opinion, that is unfair. I would expect a MILITARY DEADLINE to be a DEADLINE. If she could not pass her CFA in the GIVEN amount of time, then in my opinion, it should not forgo another try past a set deadline. The CFA is most DEFINITELY in your control, and whether you truly want to pass it or not is up to you.

If you have stellar grades and among the top 5% of your class, then the academy might grant you another try.
Good on her for remaining resilient! Maybe it's the fact she's failed 4 times that she's been given another try. It shows commitment and that she "wants" it. How badly? Well, let's see if she'll have to take the CFA a 6th time...
 
I was notified that I failed my CFA for USNA and as I took it quite late, the news of this came after the deadline. All requirements for my application are done. Is it still possible to obtain an appointment if I failed my CFA or should I abandon hopes to get in?
My DS failed the first one. He emailed his AO (you can find out who your point of contact is on your portal) and asked him why he was disqualified and what he can do to qualify. His AO emailed him back with his submitted score that said he needed more than one pull up to qualify. It turned out, my son's coach had not only incorrectly administered the CFA but had also entered the wrong scores. He was told if he took another CFA, they'd consider the new scores. A few weeks later, he took another CFA and qualified.

All this to say, talk to your AO to find out what specific event you need to improve on to qualify, and see if you can resubmit again within a few weeks. Best of luck.
 
Good on her for remaining resilient! Maybe it's the fact she's failed 4 times that she's been given another try. It shows commitment and that she "wants" it. How badly? Well, let's see if she'll have to take the CFA a 6th time...
Perfectly fine with people retaking the CFA as many times as they need to. I agree, it shows resiliency. But retaking it past the DEADLINE? Resiliency is great, but if you can’t make the minimum standards to pass the CFA within 10 months, then that is that. You have 10 months of preparation from the start of the application to the end. The CFA is in your control just like your SAT, your junior/senior year transcripts, interviews, etc. All these things are ENTIRELY within your control.
 
Not bad enough to train harder haha
If you want it badly, you'll get it lol. Went from failing the CFA to what I believe is "first-class" in under 6 months because of how badly I wanted to attend the Naval Acad
 
I know of a “person” within my district that has failed the CFA 4 times for USMA. Like she submitted them and got failed 4 times. She just got another notification that she failed and would have to try again in the following weeks. The only reason she is even getting retries PAST the deadline, is due to her stellar grades/SAT.

In my opinion, that is unfair. I would expect a MILITARY DEADLINE to be a DEADLINE. If she could not pass her CFA in the GIVEN amount of time, then in my opinion, it should not forgo another try past a set deadline. The CFA is most DEFINITELY in your control, and whether you truly want to pass it or not is up to you.

If you have stellar grades and among the top 5% of your class, then the academy might grant you another try.
I find this response amusing. You started with "person" and then went on to identify the "person" as a female repeatedly.

Not passing judgement on the "person's" performance. Frankly, if the person cannot meet the standard by the deadline assigned, then I agree they should not be offered an appointment, plain and simple.
 
I find this response amusing. You started with "person" and then went on to identify the "person" as a female repeatedly.

Not passing judgement on the "person's" performance. Frankly, if the person cannot meet the standard by the deadline assigned, then I agree they should not be offered an appointment, plain and simple.
Haha, I didn't catch that. Regardless, I know of her as our CFA administrator (AFJROTC ASI) always complained to me about her never being prepared for the CFA. Keep in mind, shes not even in rotc and my instructor is now quite annoyed he has to continue assessing her CFAs past a military deadline. CFAs aren't particularly short either haha.
 
The only time I’ve seen USNA extend the deadline was more than a decade ago. The young man was a stellar overall candidate with multiple MOC noms from a hyper-competitive state and district and an LOA. He was active in varsity sports, but they didn’t require a lot of running. Took the CFA well in advance and crushed all of it other than the mile run. He continued to improve his run time but was still a bit short on Jan 31. He was allowed to retake in Feb. and passed not long thereafter. Ended up not attending USNA, but did go on to compete in sports requiring a lot of running, such as crew and triathlon.

2029 candidates reading this — Do NOT wait until the last minute.
 
The only time I’ve seen USNA extend the deadline was more than a decade ago. The young man was a stellar overall candidate with multiple MOC noms from a hyper-competitive state and district and an LOA. He was active in varsity sports, but they didn’t require a lot of running. Took the CFA well in advance and crushed all of it other than the mile run. He continued to improve his run time but was still a bit short on Jan 31. He was allowed to retake in Feb. and passed not long thereafter. Ended up not attending USNA, but did go on to compete in sports requiring a lot of running, such as crew and triathlon.

2029 candidates reading this — Do NOT wait until the last minute.
A candidate like that is super. This other candidate only has her academics. She had no sports, and maybe a dab of leadership in a few clubs. She had to beg the rotc instructor for a PE recommendation for USMA, even though she wasn’t in rotc. She also took PE online.
 
A lot of consternation and resentment seems to be coming through in these posts about someone who has no affect on you.

Just a suggestion, maybe that should provoke a little introspection to understand why ........

As others often say on SAF, humility and grace.
I was thinking the same thing. There's going to be heartbreak in this process. I know, we watched DS go through it last year. For me, this forum is a place to learn more about the process. Personally, I'm inspired by the positivity of these kids. The last thing anyone wants to see is disparaging comments about a potential cadidate's application. DS could get a turndown this year, it's what you do after that makes the difference. Humility, grace and respect to all. Some will be told yes, some no and for others, not right now.
 
The only time I’ve seen USNA extend the deadline was more than a decade ago. The young man was a stellar overall candidate with multiple MOC noms from a hyper-competitive state and district and an LOA. He was active in varsity sports, but they didn’t require a lot of running. Took the CFA well in advance and crushed all of it other than the mile run. He continued to improve his run time but was still a bit short on Jan 31. He was allowed to retake in Feb. and passed not long thereafter. Ended up not attending USNA, but did go on to compete in sports requiring a lot of running, such as crew and triathlon.

2029 candidates reading this — Do NOT wait until the last minute.
Was this your kid? 🤣😂
 
Not my kid. Child of a friend. Has gone on to great success in life. As I often “preach” on this site, there are many paths to success that don’t involve a SA.

My point in posting is that, sometimes, USNA will allow a candidate to retake, but, in my 20+ years as a BGO, I’ve only seen it happen once and that person wasn’t even one of my candidates.

I always try to be honest with candidates. Sometimes the honest answer is a tough one. But IMO false hope is worse.
 
I sit on a MOC panel, we hold it mid-Dec. I always ask if they have completed their CFA yet. The amount who say no is actually disheartening. I then ask, when is it scheduled. What are your mock test scores. If they tell me a date with scores from practice tests, I know they are good to go. The amount who don’t have a date scheduled and haven’t taken a practice test tells me they aren’t prepared for it. Don’t wait until the end. It does not allow time for a retest or if you get sick or injured. For most, you have 4-6 months to take this test. It is 100% in your control. Take the practice test under test conditions. Don’t just test 1 min here and then there. Understand how your body will fatigue during the process.
 
I sit on a MOC panel, we hold it mid-Dec. I always ask if they have completed their CFA yet. The amount who say no is actually disheartening. I then ask, when is it scheduled. What are your mock test scores. If they tell me a date with scores from practice tests, I know they are good to go. The amount who don’t have a date scheduled and haven’t taken a practice test tells me they aren’t prepared for it. Don’t wait until the end. It does not allow time for a retest or if you get sick or injured. For most, you have 4-6 months to take this test. It is 100% in your control. Take the practice test under test conditions. Don’t just test 1 min here and then there. Understand how your body will fatigue during the process.
On behalf of my DS, and likely others here, THANK YOU for this attitude. My kid trained all year, did CFA in June, one and done. No appointment yet x3. I know looking right and left isn't the thing to do, but seriously, it's disheartening to hear of those with LOA's (not my kid either) getting the call about conditional appointments who are still taking CFA and SAT tests in December. It seems like many chances are given to some, who post on here about their kids shaky SAT scores and subpar CFA's (their words, not mine) I am shocked by this. Isn't part of being a military officer being motivated and organized? Sorry for the semi-rant. I need to take a few days off from this forum 😂🤣 For the record, at my son's MOC interview, they wanted details about his CFA, date taken, and each individual event score, which he provided. So there is at least one other panel that sees the value in this portion of the WCS. NavyHoops, thank you for your service!! 🇺🇸
 
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