Chance of Denial
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You won't know till you try! Your MOC's thought enough of you to grant you TWO nominations. Class Rank is more important than GPA, as are leadership activities. Your handle says NROTC, but you say you have two NOMS, so I am guessing here, but it seems you really want the USNA over NROTC? If you get in a bind....have a Plan B, and make sure it a school with an NROTC Detachment if that is where you want to be. Then even if you don't get an NROTC Scholarship you may be able to do NROTC as non-scholarship then after one or two years apply for a scholarship. But you have to try, to find out...
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Your chance of denial is 50%. Your admission officer should be your first stop. He should give you a fair answer. You are showing just one side of your application - the numbers which you have shared. Just looking at the numbers one can tell that they are not stellar. What is the reason behind this? Were you heavily involved in sports? Was there any hardship in the family? There are a lot of additional questions, which might shed a light.
If you are an excellent athlete you might pass with those scores. A coach at the academy might want to say a good word at the admission office. You might have a family with tradition in the maritime industry.
Otherwise wait and hope. Have a plan B in mind too. Don't stress out. As of now it is what it is. That train has left the station.
Have you taken the ACT score? Your SAT scores are on the lower side. SAT and ACT take a lot of practice to master. I would recommend taking them again in case you don't get an appointment this year.
Good luck and don't loose hope. Fortune favors the bold, but chance and USMMA favors the prepared.
If you are an excellent athlete you might pass with those scores. A coach at the academy might want to say a good word at the admission office. You might have a family with tradition in the maritime industry.
Otherwise wait and hope. Have a plan B in mind too. Don't stress out. As of now it is what it is. That train has left the station.
Have you taken the ACT score? Your SAT scores are on the lower side. SAT and ACT take a lot of practice to master. I would recommend taking them again in case you don't get an appointment this year.
Good luck and don't loose hope. Fortune favors the bold, but chance and USMMA favors the prepared.
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Where are you from? That can play a role. Your chances may be better from Wyoming than they are from NY.
It was a different time, but your stats are better than mine were.
2.9 GPA
No AP classes
1090 SAT
It also took me three tries to get in. Still not sure if there were secret "determination points" or it was a clerical error.
I was talking to my neighbor's son who was interested in becoming a Navy Pilot, I told him to move to North Dakota and apply to KP.
It was a different time, but your stats are better than mine were.
2.9 GPA
No AP classes
1090 SAT
It also took me three tries to get in. Still not sure if there were secret "determination points" or it was a clerical error.
I was talking to my neighbor's son who was interested in becoming a Navy Pilot, I told him to move to North Dakota and apply to KP.
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I would say your chances are pretty slim based on your post history.
Why do you figure its good to go to KP to be a Navy Pilot?
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Not that it's particularly good or bad, just probably easier to get a flight slot from KP than from USNA if you are not particularly academically inclined.
If your neighbor's son has to move his state of residence to be admitted to KP, he probably doesn't need to be at KP.
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It was clearly a joke. Can you just go ahead and get banned again already?
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Not in response to Mr2020, but in the interest of others who are reading and researching--statistically it has been indicated that Navy flight out of KP is better than out of USNA. Numbers vs. slots. I don't know if that is the right reason to choose KP over USNA, but, it is what it is.
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Its a joke, with some truth to it. If you meet minimums, and are the only applicant from the state, you have a heck of a better shot at getting an appointment than if you just meet minimums and are from a highly competitive state.
Mass. Haven’t seen anyone in Mass but not everyone comes here
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SATs need much work. I see nothing on leadership or athletics which are two critical elements. Of course there is some reason(s) that you got two noms so I would never rule out an appointment.
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If you make it this round or not is in the air... what you can do now is decide what you're going to do if USMMA doesn't work out this time. If you feel that USMMA is really where you want to be, go to a prep school / college and take hard classes, get involved, volunteer, and show the academy you really want this. 2nd time applications are looked at carefully. You can read up a lot about this topic on prior forums. No matter what, keep seeking to better yourself!
I was pretty sure that I got in on a clerical error. . . my numbers were decent, but not great. . . but I managed to make it through, in spite of a few instances of making it very difficult for myself. . .
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Three tries to get in, three tries to get out ... they call me alumni, same as the valedictorian.
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We are from Oregon- does anyone know if this is a competitive state? My DS is double nomination, self-prepping at MMI, ranked #1 in his class in HS, but his SAT combined was only 1210. No AP classes cuz we are in a teeny tiny school, but tons of leadership/volunteer and sports. We are very hopeful for this or USAFA.
Peppypea,
I have been following your posts about self-prepping at MMI. My DS is considering self-prepping at MMI if he is rejected from ROTC programs and academies. He's been awarded scholarships to several colleges and he's currently interested in MMI. How does you DS like the school and campus? Is he finding the program beneficial? I assume he is in the SAP program. How does it work? We are visiting the campus in the near future to take a tour and meet with admissions. DS is hoping we have to cancel due to an appointment but it is one of 3 schools in contention as Plan B. Thank you in advance for any info you are willing to provide.
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At first it was SO hard for DS. SO SO SO hard. BUT as time has gone on and he's started to understand military stuff, he's really thriving there. (We are NOT a military family, so a lot of the rules/pomp-and-circumstance stuff was over his head.) The SAP program is very very rigorous, it's much higher demand than High School- they essentially have NO free time. I think he is doing like 3 or 4 math classes and none of them are easy. He is in Band Company and it's really helped him grow as a musician (and they went to Universal Studios last month, too- it was super cool.)
He considers the people he is going to school with family not just classmates. The campus is beautiful and I feel like the staff truly cares about the students and their success.
We love it so much, my daughter will be attending next year, but not in the SAP program- she is going ROTC (which is a total shock to us, she's never expressed much interest in the military, but hey, cool!)
If you have more specific questions, feel free to message me. I am so glad I went down for Parent's Weekend, don't miss out- however, don't spend a lot of money on the food that you can buy for the weekend- it's, uhm, well, military grade. By the time you arrive, your cadet will be dying for some take-out food, badly, lol. (Also, there's an amazing Mexican place there in downtown that has the BEST shrimp cocktail I have ever had- I ate it twice while I was there.)
I will unequivocally state proudly that two of my children are Marion Made. (The other marches to the beat of his own drum...and that drum is not anywhere near the military, lol)
Thank you for your insight. How many kids are in the SAP program who are self-prep? Have any of those kids been appointed? We have been trying to decide if the SAP program is equal/better/worse then attending a college closer to home that also offered scholarship money. I think the structure of MMI would be very beneficial to DS. The whole process is a little overwhelming but I'm not from a military family.
If your DS is not appointed (I assume he will) will he attend MMI another year? Just curious.
Thanks again!
If your DS is not appointed (I assume he will) will he attend MMI another year? Just curious.
Thanks again!
Thank you for your insight. How many kids are in the SAP program who are self-prep? Have any of those kids been appointed? We have been trying to decide if the SAP program is equal/better/worse then attending a college closer to home that also offered scholarship money. I think the structure of MMI would be very beneficial to DS. The whole process is a little overwhelming but I'm not from a military family.
If your DS is not appointed (I assume he will) will he attend MMI another year? Just curious.
Thanks again!
Thank you for your insight. How many kids are in the SAP program who are self-prep? Have any of those kids been appointed? We have been trying to decide if the SAP program is equal/better/worse then attending a college closer to home that also offered scholarship money. I think the structure of MMI would be very beneficial to DS. The whole process is a little overwhelming but I'm not from a military family.
If your DS is not appointed (I assume he will) will he attend MMI another year? Just curious.
Thanks again!
Thank you for your insight. How many kids are in the SAP program who are self-prep? Have any of those kids been appointed? We have been trying to decide if the SAP program is equal/better/worse then attending a college closer to home that also offered scholarship money. I think the structure of MMI would be very beneficial to DS. The whole process is a little overwhelming but I'm not from a military family.
If your DS is not appointed (I assume he will) will he attend MMI another year? Just curious.
Thanks again!
My DS was rejected out of high school from both KP and Coast Guard and self prepped last year. High school SAT 530 r 590 m.Went to MMI and got 3.53 1st semester and 3.8 2nd semester took SAT twice more bringing scores to 600 r 610 m. He was wait listed from both schools but ultimately rejected again, but he knew he was close. He decided to return and self prep again and this year applied to all SA. He has one appointment offer, waiting to hear about two more before deciding. MMI is great, they looked at his weaknesses and put him in classes to most likely to help achieve his goals. The faculty and administrators have real relationships with senior admissions staff at all of the SA's. Last year 9/15 self preppers got appointments to USCGA .Thank you for your insight. How many kids are in the SAP program who are self-prep? Have any of those kids been appointed? We have been trying to decide if the SAP program is equal/better/worse then attending a college closer to home that also offered scholarship money. I think the structure of MMI would be very beneficial to DS. The whole process is a little overwhelming but I'm not from a military family.
If your DS is not appointed (I assume he will) will he attend MMI another year? Just curious.
Thanks again!