USNAHopeful123456
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Does anyone have a rough estimate of USNA's acceptance rate for college students? I am curious if my odds are different than high school applicants.
Thank you for the answer. That helps but I wish they had the specifics available so I could do the calculation.This may or may not help...
The class of 2023 includes 345 mids from college and post-high school prep programs. 88 of which are from college or university. Of course, to get a percentage you would have to know how many college students apply and I'm not sure if that information is available.
That is understandable; however, does this information help at all. On the CFA I recieved a maximum score on the pushups, situps, and pull ups. On the other three events I earned an 8 second shuttle run, 6:09 mile, and 79 foot basketball throw. I am dodmerb qualified and have a good college gpa. My courses are calculus, physics, rotc, and an upper division political science course. Does this information help? Either way, thank you for the response.Until you know that you are 3Q with a nomination, it is impossible to calculate the odds. Since USNA will not tell you if you're 3Q, it is therefore impossible to calculate the odds of receiving an Offer of Appointment.
Why focus on the odds? College admissions, and especially service academy admissions, isn't a game of chance. If you aren't 3Q'd, you aren't even in the game. If you are 3Q'd, you are in direct competition with the other 9 kids on your slate (whether they are high school or college applicants) and only those 9 kids on your slate. If you don't win your slate, then you go into the national pool, where you are in direct competition with only those kids also in the national pool. The likelihood of winning an offer out of the national pool depend on your WCS ranking, and things beyond your control like, race, gender, etc., etc. The higher your WCS score, the more likely you will win the competition and receive an appointment. Don't focus on the odds - focus on doing anything and everything you can to increase your WCS so you win the competition.That is understandable; however, does this information help at all. On the CFA I recieved a maximum score on the pushups, situps, and pull ups. On the other three events I earned an 8 second shuttle run, 6:09 mile, and 79 foot basketball throw. I am dodmerb qualified and have a good college gpa. My courses are calculus, physics, rotc, and an upper division political science course. Does this information help? Either way, thank you for the response.
Does anyone have a rough estimate of USNA's acceptance rate for college students? I am curious if my odds are different than high school applicants.
The acceptance rate of college re-applicants is irrelevant without knowing how strong a candidate was when they first applied. A strong candidate who just missed out on an appointment will most likely get an offer the next year after a successful semester of a challenging plebe like schedule and improvement of test scores. A weak applicant who does not improve test scores and does not have a good first semester of college will most likely be eliminated. The admission process does favor college re-applicants in the academic portion of the ranking systems.
Thank you for the answer. That is helpful. I was told by my BGO that I was extremely close to an appointment last year. Hopefully my improvements will push me over the edge.The acceptance rate of college re-applicants is irrelevant without knowing how strong a candidate was when they first applied. A strong candidate who just missed out on an appointment will most likely get an offer the next year after a successful semester of a challenging plebe like schedule and improvement of test scores. A weak applicant who does not improve test scores and does not have a good first semester of college will most likely be eliminated. The admission process does favor college re-applicants in the academic portion of the ranking systems.
I've never seen the acceptance rate broken down between college vs. h.s. students. I've never
Thank you for the extra clarification. I did not know that if a candidate does not win in his slate he/she then moves to a national pool. And you are right. I should not be focusing on the odds. My application has been submitted and I hope what I have done demonstrates a will to attend because it is my dream.Why focus on the odds? College admissions, and especially service academy admissions, isn't a game of chance. If you aren't 3Q'd, you aren't even in the game. If you are 3Q'd, you are in direct competition with the other 9 kids on your slate (whether they are high school or college applicants) and only those 9 kids on your slate. If you don't win your slate, then you go into the national pool, where you are in direct competition with only those kids also in the national pool. The likelihood of winning an offer out of the national pool depend on your WCS ranking, and things beyond your control like, race, gender, etc., etc. The higher your WCS score, the more likely you will win the competition and receive an appointment. Don't focus on the odds - focus on doing anything and everything you can to increase your WCS so you win the competition.
And I would agree. I hope that is the case. Thanks for the opinion.Just as an anecdote, a lot of the HS applicants who do not get in to the SA's may attend University ROTC Programs. Additionally, many of these applicants are super bright, take college level classes in HS and find themselves one or two semesters ahead of the normal freshman due to transfer credits. Additionally, many are STEM majors (which the SA's all like) and if they do well in their freshman year the academies look very favorable at them for a second look. Anyone who is willing to give up 60 college credits, is a stem major with 3.0 or better GPA, and completes a year of ROTC is telling the academy they are a good fit, are serious, and have a high probability of success academically and mentally in an academy setting. They are more of a "known factor" than a HS student so IMHO I would think that a college re-applicant (if they were "highly competitive" initially) would look even stronger after a year of college level work and ROTC.
That is helpful. I was told by my BGO that I was extremely close to an appointment last year. Hopefully my improvements will push me over the edge.