CULP and CIET summer 2015 AROTC

"OK, now you have me curious. You are currently an AROTC MS4 but you went through USMC OCS a couple years ago? There's got to be a story there somewhere."

I would guess he probably did 6 weeks PLC at Camp Upshur and found the chow so horrible he figured any other branch had to be better. But now that Upshur is but a memory curious also.
 
My DD (MS1 - class of 2018) just called and said that her cadre told them today that they would be going somewhere at some point this summer for 45 days for CIET. She has applied for CULP and they are not sure about that - whether or not they will still have it and whether or not they will be able to work CULP around CIET. So we still wait for details.
 
Wilco said:
"I would guess he probably did 6 weeks PLC at Camp Upshur and found the chow so horrible he figured any other branch had to be better. But now that Upshur is but a memory curious also.
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Just so you know, he is a she. I'm not offended or anything, just wanted to clear that up! I did PLC Juniors in between my sophomore and junior year and was a medical drop at the end of week 4. When I came back, it took them about a year to approve me to go see a physical therapist and clear me through BUMED. At that point, it was too late to reapply for PLC again and I was going to have to wait and apply to OCC when I graduated (I was in AROTC the first two years and completed my MS3 year while all this was going on when I returned from OCS). Since most OCC contracts were reserve contracts at this time and my OSO wasn't really being of much help, I decided to contract with AROTC and finish out there. I also ended up with an AROTC scholarship for the remainder of my time in school, so it all worked out and I'm happy where I am.
 
koneacre said:
My DD (MS1 - class of 2018) just called and said that her cadre told them today that they would be going somewhere at some point this summer for 45 days for CIET. She has applied for CULP and they are not sure about that - whether or not they will still have it and whether or not they will be able to work CULP around CIET. So we still wait for details.
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Well there you go, just the definitive answers you were looking for. My sympathies to all you waiting to hear news.
 
[QUOTE="JMS, His GPA as of the end of his 1st year was not the best, and I gather it is that GPA (not this winter's) that they use. So, he expects nothing. I wanted him to apply anyway. Things happen, slots open up.
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Really good advice you gave him. You just never know. Apply and ask for everything. Things open up or may change for other people. Takes only a little effort to speak up.

Too many other people can't understand that AROTC staff just don't read minds.
 
After PT this last Friday, our Battalion Commander discussed CIET and CLC and said that MSII's were not going to be required to attend this summer.
 
Jkaz said:
After PT this last Friday, our Battalion Commander discussed CIET and CLC and said that MSII's were not going to be required to attend this summer.
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I read elsewhere, and who knows if it's accurate because I can't remember where I read it, but it might vary unit by unit. I believe some unit'swill be going so they can "dry run" it all prior to putting everyone through it.
 
From the looks of it all, all summer training is going to be a "cluster-muck" as my dad would call it. Dates have yet to really be released, no one even knows who is attending or not attending CIET, CULP is still up in the air, and when I asked cadre how CLC was looking this summer he threw his head back, chuckled and said "ha pretty unorganized and rough". Not to mention, any MSIV or V who went to LDAC last year, graduates December 2015 or later and didn't take the new required exams will be flown back to Knox to complete these tests this summer. So this should be another fun summer for folks going to Knox because I gaurantee you they aren't any more ready for the influx of cadets this summer than they were last summer. Best advice I've received, just keep your plans VERY fluid and be prepared for anything.
 
The only bright spot in all this summer training mess is that CLC is no longer evaluated, so no matter how "cluster-mucked" it turns out to be, it won't effect your OML or Accessions/Branching. At least the testing will be the same for every cadet. Unlike last year when the LDAC mess could have an effect on your OML.

Now they just have to figure out when and who are going.
 
Jcleppe, this is very true. I just feel for those Cadets who thought they were done with Knox who now have to go back to take tests. Not to mention how costly that will be for CC. I understand having a fair test environment and all that, but geez.
 
kellen0176 said:
Jcleppe, this is very true. I just feel for those Cadets who thought they were done with Knox who now have to go back to take tests. Not to mention how costly that will be for CC. I understand having a fair test environment and all that, but geez.
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All silly stuff if you ask me....memorization of study material for a test like this does nothing to show how effective you will be as a leader of men in the face of adversity.
 
Just spoke with MSII son. He said that he doesn't think he will be "chosen" to go to CIET. Apparently since he did CULP last summer, he is considered trained already. I don't understand it at all and neither does he. He was pretty upset and a little frustrated. Who the heck is running things up there? I know it's the Army, but really? Sorry. I could vent a lot more, but I'll shut up now. Needless to say that I'm not at all impressed with the powers that be. And yes, I've read everyone's posts about just going with it. But that doesn't make it easier.:confused:
 
"All silly stuff if you ask me....memorization of study material for a test like this does nothing to show how effective you will be as a leader of men in the face of adversity."

I think the same could be said for PFT scores or any of the other elements when taken individually. However, hopefully when all of the parts converge, a picture of a leader will emerge.
 
My MS1 applied to Project GO since he thinks CULP and CIET are out for him.

CULP: No info about CULP but he likes Pro-GO better because it will give him 9 credits which places him 1 credit left for a language minor. They can only do 1 yr of CULP. CULP is shorter so it may be best to add that to a summer where he will have another training block.

CIET: Son is under the general impression CIET will be mandatory of MS2s and optional for MS1s. If so he is thinking to do CIET next yr (after kinks are out and combined with CULP)

Tune in tomorrow for a completely different set of answers...

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We thought CIET was mandatory for MSIIs also. But MIL professor told them differently..He said if he doesn't go this summer, they will probably make him do both next summer. Like you said.... Different answers tomorrow.. who knows anymore.
 
Contracted Ms1's were told they will be attending CIET this summer, 29 Days at Fort Knox. Apparently the new system has it set so that all the subsequent year groups will go during their sophomore summer. We were told it was pushed forward for Ms1's because Cadet Command doesn't have the means to do two year groups in one summer.
 
txpotato said:
"All silly stuff if you ask me....memorization of study material for a test like this does nothing to show how effective you will be as a leader of men in the face of adversity."

I think the same could be said for PFT scores or any of the other elements when taken individually. However, hopefully when all of the parts converge, a picture of a leader will emerge.
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txpotato said:
"All silly stuff if you ask me....memorization of study material for a test like this does nothing to show how effective you will be as a leader of men in the face of adversity."

I think the same could be said for PFT scores or any of the other elements when taken individually. However, hopefully when all of the parts converge, a picture of a leader will emerge.
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My point was they shouldn't have got away from the way things were done at LDAC. If anything, the standards and field training should have been more extensive. Being "put on the spot" and given a squad or platoon for that matter to lead while being evaluated would demonstrate your leadership skills much better than a standardized memorization test.
 
"My point was they shouldn't have got away from the way things were done at LDAC. If anything, the standards and field training should have been more extensive. Being "put on the spot" and given a squad or platoon for that matter to lead while being evaluated would demonstrate your leadership skills much better than a standardized memorization test."

I totally agree. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Not saying ROTC might not have needed up dated, but not totally re-structured.

DS said CC representatives from Fort Knox were at his school last week and said "we apologize for ROTC being so screwed upped". There's an understatement.
 
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