EA selection percentage prediction

FlyingWildcatDad said:
Unfortunately I got a bit of bad news from my DS today that has forced me to revise my EA percentage guess. He said that his Cadre met with them today and told them that the EA's are in deed delayed and that it looks like only about half of them will get an EA. So with this new info I'm going to revise my guess down from 73% to 54%. Any other cadets hearing the same?
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We all know now that UK is a BASKETBALL school.....but is UK an engineering school? What percent of the cadets are going TECH?
 
:smile:)This is really making me anxious.... im new to this forum and so far I am loving this site. I have learned alot from all of you regardles of the branch of service.
Im also a cadet waiting for the EA's to come out. I hope most of us can go. We have all busted our butts to be where we are right now.
Just for the heck it it.. how much of a chance do I have in actually getting chosen? I am a female.
Major: Tech, going rated
cGPA: 3.6
ACT: 24
PFA: 99.9
Ranking: According to her I was one cadet away from being top third.
I wish everyone the best of luck!! :)
 
Bevy, I think your in great shape to get one with your tech major, high GPA and PFA. I would not worry to much if I was you, good luck!
 
bevy_f4 said:
:smile:)This is really making me anxious.... im new to this forum and so far I am loving this site. I have learned alot from all of you regardles of the branch of service.
Im also a cadet waiting for the EA's to come out. I hope most of us can go. We have all busted our butts to be where we are right now.
Just for the heck it it.. how much of a chance do I have in actually getting chosen? I am a female.
Major: Tech, going rated
cGPA: 3.6
ACT: 24
PFA: 99.9
Ranking: According to her I was one cadet away from being top third.
I wish everyone the best of luck!! :)
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Hmmm

Just when I thought I ran out of questions regarding EA rankings.....I've got a new one!

Does the military or AFROTCHQ require a certain percentage of the EA's go to a female or minority...or is the ranking is what it is regardless of race or gender?

No disrespect intended to either females or minorities..
 
Awhile ago somebody posted on this forum the list of how many cadets filled each job classification for last year. I don't have the time right now to research where that list came from. If anybody knows what list I am talking about could you please post it here?
 
ERAUMattmom said:
Hmmm

Just when I thought I ran out of questions regarding EA rankings.....I've got a new one!

Does the military or AFROTCHQ require a certain percentage of the EA's go to a female or minority...or is the ranking is what it is regardless of race or gender?

No disrespect intended to either females or minorities..
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That is actually a good question. Im wondering now!!
 
Your stats get compiled; all you become to AFROTCHQ is a number. No name, etc. Just GPA, PFA, OM, AFOQT equivalent, etc...
 
ERAUMattmom said:
Hmmm

Just when I thought I ran out of questions regarding EA rankings.....I've got a new one!

Does the military or AFROTCHQ require a certain percentage of the EA's go to a female or minority...or is the ranking is what it is regardless of race or gender?

No disrespect intended to either females or minorities..
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No. They rack and stack based on the 4 categories listed. They don't even take into account ECs (unless you have a commander who takes that into account in the ranking) or double majors. Only the best of the best (number wise) go. Some classes that make it to be POC have had zero females or 1-2 URMs, some have more. Our det actually has just one female POC and she's graduating soon, it just depends on who was recruited in which year group and what the talent pool is like.

On percentages, EAs are a national percentage game. They rank everybody and then take whoever falls above the bottom line. So one det full of highly competitive individuals could have a 90%+ selection rate (definitely above the national average) while another det where there is no weeding process and full of non tech majors could have a 50% selection rate (probably well below the national average).

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Just saw that Vretro beat me to it.
 
Here's a question that you might not have thought about, is some majors because they are critical manning might get an edge, and some because they took the CSO/ABM scholarship will get an edge.

Now the question is how many will be in that pool. 250, 300, 500+. If they even drop the number to 1800 or 25% less than the typical 2200, and assume a low number of 270, that would mean 15% of the pool is set aside for them. Thus, hate to be the bearer of bad news, but theoretically it will dent the non-tech, non-rated pool even more because the others will be close to 100% pick up since HQ has deemed them critical manning.

Yes, it is a rack and stock, plug and chug situation with a line drawn at the golden number, but they are going to also look at cadets with an asterisk, I.e. above mentioned.

Before anyone says scholarships don't matter, yes, on a whole, such as HSSP and ICSP, but the ABM/CSO scholarship is different. They signed on the dotted line saying they will go ABM or CSO, not UPT or RPA. Their career assignment is already set. HQ is counting on them for 16.
~~~ A few years ago it was like this for nursing majors, they had close to 100% selection rate when the national average was 55%. I believe the same was true for Mechanical engineers compared to other tech majors. I.E.an ME that year may have had a 2.7, yet the avg engineer stats were 3.0.

Just food for thought regarding why you may see in a few weeks someone with a much lower cgpa/SAT or even CoC ranking getting an EA slot over another cadet with higher stats. It is the needs of the AF.

The CoC that said flying is what the AF does is being brutally honest. The fact is the AF knows in less than 5 years there will be a pilot shortage due to commercial airlines. You can take a pilot out of the airframe and make them a maintenance officer with little to no time out, but to take a maintenance officer and make them a pilot takes over two years just to be MQ. 3-4 years before they can even become an Instructor. They are trying to get in front of the mass exodus that they are anticipating come 18, which would be the exact same time the class of 16 will be winging.
 
Pima according to Vretro:
"Your stats get compiled; all you become to AFROTCHQ is a number. No name, etc. Just GPA, PFA, OM, AFOQT equivalent, etc..." How would the board know who has a CSO/ABM scholarship? I would have assumed that those cadets would just be competing on the new rated board against the other cadets that listed a rated preference?
 
FlyingWildcatDad said:
Pima according to Vretro:
"Your stats get compiled; all you become to AFROTCHQ is a number. No name, etc. Just GPA, PFA, OM, AFOQT equivalent, etc..." How would the board know who has a CSO/ABM scholarship? I would have assumed that those cadets would just be competing on the new rated board against the other cadets that listed a rated preference?
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Leave Pima alone....she's busy writing us new songs!!
 
Flying,

There is a scholarship currently for ABM/CSO. These cadets have said/signed a special scholarship. They are not competing like the HSSP/ICSP because when they signed the dotted line they signed for their AFSC. They are unique becuase their scholarship is tied yo their AFSC. Zhssp/ICSP is tied only to their major.

IOWS, the AF from a manpower perspective has counted them in the equation. Their scholarship was not just based on academics, it was based on their career in the AF.
 
Thanks for the explanation. So in essence, the CSO/ABM scholarship guarantees the recipient an EA as long as they meet minimum standards? Must be nice not to have that worry, especially if your a Non Tech this year.
 
Pima said:
Flying,

There is a scholarship currently for ABM/CSO. These cadets have said/signed a special scholarship. They are not competing like the HSSP/ICSP because when they signed the dotted line they signed for their AFSC. They are unique becuase their scholarship is tied yo their AFSC. Zhssp/ICSP is tied only to their major.

IOWS, the AF from a manpower perspective has counted them in the equation. Their scholarship was not just based on academics, it was based on their career in the AF.
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There is NO scholarship for ABM/CSO this year. They replaced the scholarship with the rated board. The rated board is supposed to provide cadets a boost the same way the scholarships did for ABM/CSO. Also, these scholarships did not guarantee an EA. Cadets that received these scholarships had an extra boost but if they were not competitive enough for an EA then they would lose the scholarship. Now there could have been "implications" since very few cadets even went for the ABM/CSO scholarships but in all technicalities the scholarship recipients did have to go through an EA board.
 
AlphaAlphaSigma said:
There is NO scholarship for ABM/CSO this year. They replaced the scholarship with the rated board. The rated board is supposed to provide cadets a boost the same way the scholarships did for ABM/CSO. Also, these scholarships did not guarantee an EA. Cadets that received these scholarships had an extra boost but if they were not competitive enough for an EA then they would lose the scholarship. Now there could have been "implications" since very few cadets even went for the ABM/CSO scholarships but in all technicalities the scholarship recipients did have to go through an EA board.
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+1

They only offered the CSO/ABM scholarship last year, I know that because I was interested in it this year, but they stopped offering it. Also, the scholarship did not guarantee them an EA, it just guarantees that they will be locked into that career field if they earned a commission.
 
GEEZ,

I knew bringing it into the equation would muddy the waters.

I never said they didn't go through the board. I only said they may have been given an edge because of the critical manning compared to the traditional HSSP/ICSP scholarship candidate. It was never about being on scholarship, it was about critical career manning. Just like nurses are no longer critical manning issues, obviously ABM and CSO are not either anymore.

Please re-read what I stated. No need for the jump down my throat. I was just posing the question. If they offered even last year, than there will be 200s on the ABM/CSO scholarship,

OBTW are you really going to say that they offer CSO/ABM scholarships for AFROTC and then not give them an edge for EA? That is what you are saying. I am saying that unlike HSSP cadets, they give an edge because the AF is bringing them in with 100% guarantee they will go that career field.

The fact is there are critical manning issues and they get an edge. A few yes ago it was Nurses, and ME, last yr it wasCSO/ABM. This yrn it could be EE . I don't know, I was just giving examples.
 
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I agree. I believe they give the edge to all scholarship cadets, because why would they lose money on giving out scholarships. I believe this is similar to some engineering fields. It is a return on investment for them.

As for ABM/CSO scholarships they were solely offered to the AS200s (AS300's now) last year. This may have just been at my det, I am not sure. But I would have loved a CSO scholarship, its a shame they didn't offer it this year.
 
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