Gunner123

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Good evening, Academy Forums,

I've begun writing my essays for the Naval Academy to answer the question:

In a well-organized essay of a total of 300 to 500 words, please discuss both of the following:
(1) Describe what led to your initial interest in naval service and how the Naval Academy will help you achieve your long-range goals, and
(2) Describe a personal experience you have had which you feel has contributed to your own character development and integrity.

I have come up with a preliminary draft that I feel somewhat good about. I've had my mother read it, however she was not of much help and I'm still waiting on a response from my BGO.

So, I thought that I would come to here for some feedback in hopes that your responses may help, not only myself, but someone else with similar questions.

Please let me know if there's something that I should emphasize or change.

Thank you.

My initial interest in the naval service began with my father. My father—who passed away when I was 8 years old—served in the Marine Corps for 28 years during WWII, Korea, and Vietnam and retired as a Gunnery sergeant. I am proud to have such a brave and selfless man as a father and desire to continue his legacy in the Corps as a commissioned officer.

In addition to wanting to carry on my father’s legacy, I am driven to follow a career in the Marine Corps because I aspire to lead and serve others. However, I was not always this way. It took my 10th grade religious studies teacher, Mr. Bob, to teach me what true leadership looked like and to inspire me to serve others. In each class he would remind us of the good work of Jesus and how Jesus was a king, yet he washed the feet of his disciples. Although it took me months to understand it, Mr. Bob's persistence broke through to me. A good leader takes care of his people.

Seeing the importance of serving others and making an impact on my community, I began to volunteer at the local soup kitchen. It took adjusting, however, I soon found joy in the work that I was doing. I even found pleasure in cleaning the dining hall. Nobody asked me to do it and I was not being rewarded. However, I found satisfaction in the fact that I was helping to support not only the kitchen but make an impact on my community.

As I continued through high school, I found interest in aviation and developing my leadership skills. So, I joined the Civil Air Patrol. As a result of the hard work and dedication that I put into the program and demonstrated leadership ability, I was promoted to a flight sergeant position in our squadron. Although an interest in aviation was what primarily inspired me to join the CAP, the opportunity to lead was what made me stay. To me, there’s no greater joy than getting to lead, mentor, my cadets. I aspire to follow a similar path in the Marines, to protect and serve not just my country, but the Marines that I may someday have the honor of leading.

As I understand it, no person can go from being an aspiring servant leader, like myself, to a Marine Corps officer in a day. It takes years of dedication, discipline, and sacrifice to make it to that point. The Naval Academy is also no easy task; however, to achieve my goal of earning my commission and succeeding as a Marine officer, I must conquer the difficulties of the Academy. With each lesson learned and each challenge overcome at the Academy, I will be able to better lead and care for my Marines. I believe that the hard work and dedication required to succeed as a midshipman will make all the difference when I finally become a Marine Corps officer.


I've changed the names for anonymity.
 
Sounds good in my opinion. I'm also a candidate for this class. I hope we both get accepted.
 
Hi. I enjoyed your essay. I don't have input other than to verify the dates of your story. From my calculations your father would have been 75 when you were born, best case scenario. Definitely possible, but want to make sure you submit accurate information.
 
Consider more editing for example:

"My initial interest in the naval service began with my father. My father—who passed away when I was 8 years old—served in the Marine Corps for 28 years during WWII, Korea, and Vietnam and retired as a Gunnery sergeant".

This seems like this can be worded better. "...my father. My father-..." My father repeating so close to gather seems awkward. For some readers the beginning of an essay is like that first meeting. It should demonstrate excellence in writing skill.

Your essay has a great start-keep working on it-get critical editing input.
 
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Good evening, Academy Forums,

I've begun writing my essays for the Naval Academy to answer the question:

In a well-organized essay of a total of 300 to 500 words, please discuss both of the following:
(1) Describe what led to your initial interest in naval service and how the Naval Academy will help you achieve your long-range goals, and
(2) Describe a personal experience you have had which you feel has contributed to your own character development and integrity.

I have come up with a preliminary draft that I feel somewhat good about. I've had my mother read it, however she was not of much help and I'm still waiting on a response from my BGO.

So, I thought that I would come to here for some feedback in hopes that your responses may help, not only myself, but someone else with similar questions.

Please let me know if there's something that I should emphasize or change.

Thank you.

My initial interest in the naval service began with my father. My father—who passed away when I was 8 years old—served in the Marine Corps for 28 years during WWII, Korea, and Vietnam and retired as a Gunnery sergeant. I am proud to have such a brave and selfless man as a father and desire to continue his legacy in the Corps as a commissioned officer.

In addition to wanting to carry on my father’s legacy, I am driven to follow a career in the Marine Corps because I aspire to lead and serve others. However, I was not always this way. It took my 10th grade religious studies teacher, Mr. Bob, to teach me what true leadership looked like and to inspire me to serve others. In each class he would remind us of the good work of Jesus and how Jesus was a king, yet he washed the feet of his disciples. Although it took me months to understand it, Mr. Bob's persistence broke through to me. A good leader takes care of his people.

Seeing the importance of serving others and making an impact on my community, I began to volunteer at the local soup kitchen. It took adjusting, however, I soon found joy in the work that I was doing. I even found pleasure in cleaning the dining hall. Nobody asked me to do it and I was not being rewarded. However, I found satisfaction in the fact that I was helping to support not only the kitchen but make an impact on my community.

As I continued through high school, I found interest in aviation and developing my leadership skills. So, I joined the Civil Air Patrol. As a result of the hard work and dedication that I put into the program and demonstrated leadership ability, I was promoted to a flight sergeant position in our squadron. Although an interest in aviation was what primarily inspired me to join the CAP, the opportunity to lead was what made me stay. To me, there’s no greater joy than getting to lead, mentor, my cadets. I aspire to follow a similar path in the Marines, to protect and serve not just my country, but the Marines that I may someday have the honor of leading.

As I understand it, no person can go from being an aspiring servant leader, like myself, to a Marine Corps officer in a day. It takes years of dedication, discipline, and sacrifice to make it to that point. The Naval Academy is also no easy task; however, to achieve my goal of earning my commission and succeeding as a Marine officer, I must conquer the difficulties of the Academy. With each lesson learned and each challenge overcome at the Academy, I will be able to better lead and care for my Marines. I believe that the hard work and dedication required to succeed as a midshipman will make all the difference when I finally become a Marine Corps officer.


I've changed the names for anonymity.
I might be missing it as I scroll with my morning coffee in hand, but the 2nd part of the prompt states......
(2) Describe a personal experience you have had which you feel has contributed to your own character development and integrity

This may not be a big thing for those who grade the USNA essays, and I have zero experience with that process. But I did not see "integrity" in your answer. I do see the character portion of it so I think you're good there.

I aspire to follow a similar path in the Marines.... The word Marines refers to people in the plural. I think you intend to say, I aspire to follow a similar path in the Marine Corps. Subtle nuance that no one may notice (except a Jesuit educated old Captain like me)

There's a few passive voice usages......... "I was not being rewarded" and "I was promoted".....if you can avoid that it helps. But I doubt anyone will notice too much.

Lastly, if 100 people read this you will likely get 100 versions of what works best. I know you know this, but at the end of the day, this is you doing you. If it speaks from the heart and resonates, you will do well.

Good luck!
 
I’d want things in my essay that all should like and not add anything that might jump out as a neg that even one might find in a lesser light.

First if all I’d want to verify how a WW2 vet has a child in HS now. That stands out in a way someone might think that statement not to be true.

I truly doubt any WW2 vet has a child in HS today. I’d wonder the same about Korean vets although there is certainly more of a chance,

I am a VN vet , in country years after ww2 ended and it’s my grandchildren now applying.

id talk about service. A desire to serve. But if it were me I’d not be bringing the Baby Jesus into your argument. It adds nothing that talking about a desire to serve does not already add.

I’d make a similar suggestion for all the non believers, Muslims, Buddhists, etc that might be applying.
 
I'm class of 2027 also. My GREAT GRANDFATHER was a WW2 vet when he was 18. If this is the case that your father was, I agree that adding something about that experience might clarify your statement as true. Not that it is invalid, just something that stands out as unusual and questionable.

Also, if he passed away when you were young, maybe you could bring this up later in the essay to describe it as "a personal experience you have had which you feel has contributed to your own character development and integrity".

Either way, thanks to your family member for his great service, and congratulations on a well formulated essay!
 
I would NOT share an essay on a Forum. If someone steals it, you have no recourse. Other than that, it is a bit repetitive. Also, you don't need to tell USNA that they are a challenge. They already know that. Dig a little deeper. I think you have a good start.
 
I might be missing it as I scroll with my morning coffee in hand, but the 2nd part of the prompt states......
(2) Describe a personal experience you have had which you feel has contributed to your own character development and integrity

This may not be a big thing for those who grade the USNA essays, and I have zero experience with that process. But I did not see "integrity" in your answer. I do see the character portion of it so I think you're good there.

I aspire to follow a similar path in the Marines.... The word Marines refers to people in the plural. I think you intend to say, I aspire to follow a similar path in the Marine Corps. Subtle nuance that no one may notice (except a Jesuit educated old Captain like me)

There's a few passive voice usages......... "I was not being rewarded" and "I was promoted".....if you can avoid that it helps. But I doubt anyone will notice too much.

Lastly, if 100 people read this you will likely get 100 versions of what works best. I know you know this, but at the end of the day, this is you doing you. If it speaks from the heart and resonates, you will do well.

Good luck!
Thank you, Sir. I think that I can certainly emphasize that more.
 
This is YOUR essay right?

I don't want to tear down anyone else who is trying to help you or have helped others including their own kids but to me, the essay is supposed to be THEIRS and is in many ways a test of who they are and how well they are able to express themselves.

I would just as soon give a candidate a ride on my bike during the mile run as I would help with their essays because to me, they are
the same thing.

Sorry of that offends anyone as I don't mean to be offensive.

And for the record, I personally did not share my essays with my parents or teachers when I was a candidate and I did not read my son's essays
when he was a candidate.
 
This is YOUR essay right?

I don't want to tear down anyone else who is trying to help you or have helped others including their own kids but to me, the essay is supposed to be THEIRS and is in many ways a test of who they are and how well they are able to express themselves.

I would just as soon give a candidate a ride on my bike during the mile run as I would help with their essays because to me, they are
the same thing.

Sorry of that offends anyone as I don't mean to be offensive.

And for the record, I personally did not share my essays with my parents or teachers when I was a candidate and I did not read my son's essays
when he was a candidate.
Speaking to this. Your essay is the one place, outside of an interview where you have an active voice.

USE IT.

Answer the damn question. Speak directly to it. Do not diverge or wander. Speak to the prompt.

Write the essay only you can write. Think about admissions reading 15k essays. Please don’t put them to sleep.

Be honest. Be authentic. Be original. Be you! Writing what you think people want to hear is a death knell.

Writing platitudes is also a death knell.

My suggestion would be this. It is so damn early in the admission cycle that you all have time to review, marinate, edit, and exorcise the parts that don’t belong.

Sleep on it.
 
I’d want things in my essay that all should like and not add anything that might jump out as a neg that even one might find in a lesser light.

First if all I’d want to verify how a WW2 vet has a child in HS now. That stands out in a way someone might think that statement not to be true.

I truly doubt any WW2 vet has a child in HS today. I’d wonder the same about Korean vets although there is certainly more of a chance,

I am a VN vet , in country years after ww2 ended and it’s my grandchildren now applying.

id talk about service. A desire to serve. But if it were me I’d not be bringing the Baby Jesus into your argument. It adds nothing that talking about a desire to serve does not already add.

I’d make a similar suggestion for all the non believers, Muslims, Buddhists, etc that might be applying.
^^This is funny stuff - enjoying starting my morning reading this. Thank you.

I suppose like the late actor Anthony Quinn, @Gunner123 that your Dad could have served in WWII as a child, lied about his age, then fathered you in his 80s, conceived circa 2004 - but be aware the military has databases and can so easily verify - think about it - if a quick search confirms he didn't and you're embellishing here, your credibility is gone as likely are your chances of admission.

If you're not embellishing, you probably have a fascinating essay foundation from your experience. I'd prefer to see you tell a story of how after his passing in his 90s or 100s leaving a young child(ren?) and a family, you stepped-up, you took on progressive responsibility at home to care for your siblings and help your Mom, got a job to help pay the bills and a vignette that actually addresses the prompt re: integrity.

In short - Agree on not mentioning our lord Jesus to USNA. It presents you as someone who might not be able to have a conversation without doing so, potentially. Ever been to Water Country USA in Williamsburg VA? Where the typical attendee "uniform" seems to be shirts with preachy bible verses on them with nearly non-existent bathing suits? Those folks IMO come across as unable to separate any activity/ dialogue with the lord. Try not to present as the same in your application.

This is your shot at your dream - and your "wow" story is that you selflessly cleaned a room even though no one asked you to while also helping at food shelter? Aim higher for impact and to tell the committee who you are, why you stand out. - great that you are seeking feedback - in this case hopefully the collective ideas from all posters here will help you pause, recast your approach and tell an impactful essay that can help you toward your dream. Good luck.
 
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I agree it’s nearly impossible that your father could have been a WWII vet. My youngest son just graduated from HS and I have a first cousin (my aunt’s oldest) who was killed in 1944 in a B24 explosion - so I could imagine something family-related like that, but otherwise it’s extremely unlikely.
 
I'm always amused by how almost every essay posed on this site focuses on family history with the military, military-like middle and high school pursuits, and effusive patriotism for a type of leadership "only" the military can provide. I'm sure the academy readers need toothpicks to keep their eyes open while reading these rinse and repeat essays.

Here's an experiment: See if you can describe your mettle to the academy and why you see serving as a naval officer (that IS the goal) as a critical step of your early life journey without mentioning any of the above. Can you do it? If so, you just might remove some toothpicks.

Good luck.
 
I don't want to tear down anyone else who is trying to help you or have helped others including their own kids but to me, the essay is supposed to be THEIRS and is in many ways a test of who they are and how well they are able to express themselves.
^ This -- I don't read the various essays posted here (or elsewhere) but do get a kick out of some of the commentary.
The discussion about candidates who are offspring of WW2 vets was giving me flashbacks to the "Fertile Octogenarian"/Rule Against Perpetuities back in law school. (If you want to go down a rabbit hole - Look up the Rule against Perpetuities :) !

Seriously, my advice on essays is to keep it simple, direct, avoid hyperbole and flowery prose. Keep in mind the target audience -- the Admissions Board is (largely) composed of fairly senior military officers or experienced professors, and brevity is important, Make every word count -- then go back and edit more out.
 
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I don’t see any problem in the OP referencing code in the good book … don’t bash that.

OP is right … the messenger is never greater than the one who sent him … a true leader is always grounded … always a servant.
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