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Crytpologic technician networks or interpreter ( if she passes the DLab). She is highly gifted in character based languages ( Japanese, Chinese, Korean Arabic, etc) and a computer/engineering geek :)
 
That is a total different path to serve, to say the least. May I ask what rating has she selected? And how did she pick it?
Crytpologic technician networks or interpreter ( if she passes the DLab). She is highly gifted in character based languages ( Japanese, Chinese, Korean Arabic, etc) and a computer/engineering geek :)
 
Crytpologic technician networks or interpreter ( if she passes the DLab). She is highly gifted in character based languages ( Japanese, Chinese, Korean Arabic, etc) and a computer/engineering geek :)
Those are great choices! Very marketable skills if she works hard and do well, and it also says a lot about her high ASVAB (Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery)! When is she taking her DLAB (Defense Language Aptitute Battery)? Get some good sleep before the test.
Edit: I am surprised the Nuke recruiter did not approach her.
 
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Hope she is going Nuke. USNA gets tons from the Nuke pipeline. Statistically its the best chance.

NavyHoops, I am curious about that. My DS was pursued by recruiter, took ASVAB, scored 97, recruiter wants him to enlist and go to nuclear school. DS decided that it is NA first, plan B is 4 yr college/NROTC (two college acceptances already). Are you saying if he gets TWE (he is still CPR), but decides he wants to reapply, that nuclear school may be the way to go? We didn't have anyone to ask about that avenue.
 
Hope she is going Nuke. USNA gets tons from the Nuke pipeline. Statistically its the best chance.

NavyHoops, I am curious about that. My DS was pursued by recruiter, took ASVAB, scored 97, recruiter wants him to enlist and go to nuclear school. DS decided that it is NA first, plan B is 4 yr college/NROTC (two college acceptances already). Are you saying if he gets TWE (he is still CPR), but decides he wants to reapply, that nuclear school may be the way to go? We didn't have anyone to ask about that avenue.

Go to plan B college, participate in NROTC and re-apply. Do not enlist with that as your primary path to re-apply to USNA. I say this as a USNA graduate, a 30 year career Navy Officer who wrote many commissioning packages for my enlisted sailors and father of a successful college re-applicant.

Go to college, take a heavy STEM curriculum which mirrors first semester plebe year, be active and excel in your NROTC unit, get a strong recommendation from your NROTC unit CO.
 
Without speaking for Hoops, I think the message is that, IF you intend to enlist then going Nuke is your best chance to later be able to go to USNA. That is not the same as saying that enlisting (and going Nuke) is your best chance to attend USNA. Obviously, the easier path to that goal is attending college.

As many here (including Hoops) have said, the decision to enlist is separate and apart from a decision to attend USNA.
 
Without speaking for Hoops, I think the message is that, IF you intend to enlist then going Nuke is your best chance to later be able to go to USNA. That is not the same as saying that enlisting (and going Nuke) is your best chance to attend USNA. Obviously, the easier path to that goal is attending college.

As many here (including Hoops) have said, the decision to enlist is separate and apart from a decision to attend USNA.

Agree completely....good, bad or otherwise, the path to a commission for many enlisted, either by USNA admission or other sources like STA-21 is often unsuccessful based on shifting annual quotas, difficulty in staying current with math aptitude and the all encompassing "needs of the Navy." Once you enlist, the Navy views that rate/rating as your primary "vocation" and they will decide when and if you get to join the officer "club"....
 
Honestly, those who did not get an appointment need to first assess why. Ask the USNA admissions officer to be frank and honest. Have him/her tell you specifically what you would need to make the cut if you reapplied. Your congressional district will likely be the same, so the competition will be similar. If your ACT scores were only a point off from getting a spot, for example, then decide if you want to work on that, and reapply if you have the motivation to do it. If you had a 27 ACT, and you will need a 32 to be in good position for a spot, If you have already taken the test 5 times, and it is very unlikely you will move your scores that much, move on. The admissions formulas for the academies are not that complicated, and you should be able to conclude what area you were short in. The admissions people should be able to make it clear if you aren't certain.

If you were a borderline candidate, and you really want USNA, reapply and boost things you can boost. Academies love reapplicants, and you will get a little extra love next time. Also decide why you wanted Naval Academy. If it was because you loved the uniform and think Annapolis is a cool place, thats all good, but reevaluate your long term thought process. If you want to serve as an officer, and be a leader of men and women who share your patriotism and goals, and believe you would enjoy the military lifestyle, consider applying to other academies too, and ROTC. Visit West Point, USAFA, USCGA, and USMMA. Talk to people there. Tremendous places, which lead to tremendous opportunities as an officer, and you may fall in love with those academies. You may end up singing that old Garth Brooks song "unanswered prayers", and be grateful things worked out the way they did. If you really wanted Navy or Marines, the services ROTC scholarship program are so great that I felt a bit sick when my son turned his down to go to West Point. When comparing the ROTC option with the Academies, they both have pros and cons. If I was a kid and had both choices i would go back and forth, and spin my head choosing. Both end in the same commission.

Assess, evaluate and decide. Whatever you choose, commit to it had core. Have a vision quest and make it happen.
 
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@kathy baker, does DD have a ROTC or college as her plan b before enlisting? It all boils down to her goal, short and long terms. Feel free to PM me if you have any specific question, especially CTN or CTI. If I don't have the answer, I can point you to the right people or get it for you.
 
those who did not get an appointment need to first assess why
Agree with @brovol. Often times the sole reason many many qualified candidates are not offered an appointment is the quota limitation. Many great candidates are turned away beacause of stiff competition in their districts. Hence the importance of plan b's and alternate routes to get to your goal.
 
Honestly, those who did not get an appointment need to first assess why. Ask the USNA admissions officer to be frank and honest. Have him/her tell you specifically what you would need to make the cut if you reapplied. Your congressional district will likely be the same, so the competition will be similar. If your ACT scores were only a point off from getting a spot, for example, then decide if you want to work on that, and reapply if you have the motivation to do it. If you had a 27 ACT, and you will need a 32 to be in good position for a spot, If you have already taken the test 5 times, and it is very unlikely you will move your scores that much, move on. The admissions formulas for the academies are not that complicated, and you should be able to conclude what area you were short in. The admissions people should be able to make it clear if you aren't certain.

Assess, evaluate and decide. Whatever you choose, commit to it had core. Have a vision quest and make it happen.
This is so true and goes for all aspects of the candidate score. For example, if 90+% of successful applicants have varsity letters, and 75% have been captains, and you don't have that, and your academic scores are just average for USNA (although still high when compared with the rest of nation), then you need to ask what do I have to offer that overcomes that? Why would USNA choose me over another candidate? What extra do I have to offer? Just having the same stats as the average of the incoming class shouldn't be the metric against which you measure yourself..
 
1985 is spot on as usual. Do not enlist thinking it's a path to USNA. Anyone who enlists should fully expect to serve out their enlistment. It is not a guaranteed path to USNA and comes with huge risk if that is why you are enlisting. Stats are not on your side to get to USNA. If USNA is your goal go to a 4 year and reapply.

If enlisting is something you are dead set on, statistically speaking Nuke offers the best path to possibly going to USNA. Lots of the prior enlisted accepted to USNA come from the Nuke pipeline. They screen candidates there and help put applications together. If you look at the class of 2020 profile is states that 20 sailors came to USNA directly. They don't break that out on stats of where they came from in the fleet, but I am guessing the majority came from Nuke school. Again, I can't say it enough, do not count on this being a path to USNA. Be prepared to serve your entire enlistment.
 
Honestly, those who did not get an appointment need to first assess why. Ask the USNA admissions officer to be frank and honest. Have him/her tell you specifically what you would need to make the cut if you reapplied. Your congressional district will likely be the same, so the competition will be similar. If your ACT scores were only a point off from getting a spot, for example, then decide if you want to work on that, and reapply if you have the motivation to do it. If you had a 27 ACT, and you will need a 32 to be in good position for a spot, If you have already taken the test 5 times, and it is very unlikely you will move your scores that much, move on. The admissions formulas for the academies are not that complicated, and you should be able to conclude what area you were short in. The admissions people should be able to make it clear if you aren't certain.

Assess, evaluate and decide. Whatever you choose, commit to it had core. Have a vision quest and make it happen.
This is so true and goes for all aspects of the candidate score. For example, if 90+% of successful applicants have varsity letters, and 75% have been captains, and you don't have that, and your academic scores are just average for USNA (although still high when compared with the rest of nation), then you need to ask what do I have to offer that overcomes that? Why would USNA choose me over another candidate? What extra do I have to offer? Just having the same stats as the average of the incoming class shouldn't be the metric against which you measure yourself..
I agree, and that is what I was trying to say. Get someone from admissions to tell you where your shortcomings are (if you dont already know). Some can be fixed, some probably not. if they can be, and you are willing to do what it takes, the applying for next years class is a great idea, and is doable. Otherwise, examine the alternatives, and be open minded about other options.

So many kids are fixated on one academy. Some of that is because they are very young, and tend to lock in one one thing that sounds good, when if they broadened their view of things they might find that the other services have the same or very similar opportunities. The navy though does have ships, which the Army and Air Force lack; but the Coast Guard does, as does the Merchant Marines. Truly, how many 17 and 18 year old kids have enough insight and life experience to know for sure what they will want even five years from now? I'm in my 50's and still dreaming of things i could have done. LOL.

I still think many kids who are at academies for a year or two might choose differently given the insight they gain after a couple years. I know that my son was all about flying helicopters when he got to USMA, and rejected the idea of going to USAFA quickly because, besides aviation, he didnt like the career options of the Air Force. Now he tells me he was very short sighted, and many of the things he would like to do in the Army are the same as those he dismissed when he was considering Air Force. he has had the privilege of talking to many of his professors (most of whom are active duty officers at West Point), upper-classmen, visiting students from other academies, and others, as well as having participated in branch activities, and experiencing CBT and classes, all of which provide enlightenment for a young adult. he is far more mature now than he was a year ago when he was making these decisions. Yet we expect that a kid will be able to decide which academy and which service he/she will spend the next ten years with when the kid is 17 years old.
 
@kathy baker, does DD have a ROTC or college as her plan b before enlisting? It all boils down to her goal, short and long terms. Feel free to PM me if you have any specific question, especially CTN or CTI. If I don't have the answer, I can point you to the right people or get it for you.
She applied for ROTC as well but she is already in Delayed Entry
 
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