First F-35 "dropped" in UPT last night

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Both of you are acting like Stooges.

We get it, Bullet. You're an F-35 shill. It puts bread on your table so you won't admit anything negative.

We get it, cga82. You're an F-35 critic. You fancy yourself a crusader for truth and justice in DOD acquisitions.

Seriously...WE GET IT.
 
Just for clarification...Bullet is no longer directly tied to the 35 from a job aspect. The bread on our table is safe whether or not the 35 lives another day, he literally does not have a bone in this fight as implied by scoutpilot. I will still be buying bread from Panerra to put on my table weekly whether the 35 is killed or lives!

It is sad for me to see how this thread was meant to give joy to young posters that desire to fly the 35. That was all he meant. He did not intend this to become a political discussion.
 
Just to be clear about my posts. As I mentioned way back in post 13, I could careless about Bullets ties to the F-35-so stop thinking everything revolves around you and Bullet.

Do not twist my concerns about the F-35 program over how your daily bread is safe. My concerns have been about the COST(Money spending) and the safety of this airframe from a point of MISSION capability--5LB aircraft carrying 15LBS of crap while every other present Air Frame program suffers with old broken scavenged parts to prosecute the wars going on now.

Beautiful, we spent Money now with no guarantees (huge price over-runs -no delivery-other countries to compromise our HUGE investment) at the cost of our forces now.

It's not a political discussion-it's about problems surrounding this AIRFRAME.

The joy for a few to drive the new TESLA(doubt it will ever be this good) while not focusing on the majority who have been hanging on for dear life for tooo many years is certainly within this thread. The young posters had better see what this Aircraft has gone thru(history) to understand it more...

BTW, the young and old posters sure as hell had better look over their shoulders and see whats on their "6". I haven't seen any mention to that because you would believe that is off topic when it is very much part of the topic.

While you're eating Panerra, the forces are looking for bread crumbs. Is this off topic?
 
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Have to ask...what you honestly want or need when it comes to this thread?!?

Bullet only stated it to say the F35s were dropping out of UPT...it was that simple. You made it a fight about the 35 impo.
~ It was scout that said my daily bread.

Whatever you feel either way, can we not just support those O1/2s winging out of UPT? Was that not his goal to celebrate the drop?

Again notice nobody is discussing the 35....except you, Let It Go!
 
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Pima said:
Have to ask...what you honestly want or need when it comes to this thread?!?

Bullet only stated it to say the F35s were dropping out of UPT...it was that simple. You made it a fight about the 35 impo.
~ It was scout that said my daily bread.

Whatever you feel either way, can we not just support those O1/2s winging out of UPT? Was that not his goal to celebrate the drop?

Again notice nobody is discussing the 35....except you, Let It Go!
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I wouldn't say NOBODY.
 
Much work still needs to be done on the F-35.We should have acquired more F-22s, just MHO.Thankful the guard still flies em!
 
Cga82 still works for the Coast Guard (I believe). It's a service that has had MORE than it's share of horrible acquisitions programs. The big one being Deepwater. Take a look at the medical IT thread under Academy/Military News. That's amazing.

I think this thread is played out. The F-35 hasn't been a home run. Talk to non-F-22 pilots in the Air Force... not a huge fan base for the F-22.
 
I have no direct knowledge of the workings of the F-35 but.......I did just stay at a Holiday Inn Express so........
 
LineInTheSand said:
Cga82 still works for the Coast Guard (I believe). It's a service that has had MORE than it's share of horrible acquisitions programs. The big one being Deepwater. Take a look at the medical IT thread under Academy/Military News. That's amazing.

I think this thread is played out. The F-35 hasn't been a home run. Talk to non-F-22 pilots in the Air Force... not a huge fan base for the F-22.
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We promise it'll do its job...someday. Maybe.
 
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I have no direct knowledge of the workings of the F-35 but.......I did just stay at a Holiday Inn Express so........
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I'm sure you're not alone. I have been learning what I can for sometime and it hasn't looked good from the start-esp with all the types of problems, reduced aircraft produced and missions it has to cover- a super saturated thimble of an aircraft carrying the weight of 3 distinct aircraft. To see the amount of cash spent and will continue to be spent is mind blowing yet to factor in the so called allied countries to get the product speaks of compromise.

It appears to me that this project should have taken the cover of silence and covertly made all systems tested and 100% working before any type of exposure. As I mentioned before, this project has been handled with incompetence at the very least.

Pima Bullet can say congrats all they want and it looks so great on the surface but it is far from that fact and the newbies and old timers alike should know.

Yet, I've said before our forces have to mend aircraft missions with inadequate parts.
 
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Sharing many parts accross services may prove it's worth in the long run and "block" upgrades will help, we'll see...
 
LineInTheSand said:
Cga82 still works for the Coast Guard (I believe). It's a service that has had MORE than it's share of horrible acquisitions programs. The big one being Deepwater. Take a look at the medical IT thread under Academy/Military News. That's amazing.
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Yes, absolutely. Just to spread some love to another branch, here's another news item that appeared last month.

Coast Guard Mulls Contracts for New Cutters

WASHINGTON, D.C. – The Coast Guard is in the final stages of awarding a contract for the construction of the Offshore Patrol Cutter (OPC), which will replace the aging Medium Endurance Cutters built during the Great Depression. The contract specifically requires a “better than 50-50 chance” the new cutters will not break in half, according to sources familiar with the RFP.

Analysts predict that the OPC will be no exception to the long list of Coast Guard contracting fiascoes.

“We don’t have that DoD money, so we had to cut cost while still keeping our folks safe,'” said Capt. Marsellus Wallace, a spokesperson for the Coast Guard. “Plus, I remember making little tin foil boats in my Naval Engineering classes at the Coast Guard Academy. It’s quality material.”

In the 2000s, the Coast Guard noticed an alarming decrease in the operational readiness of its cutter fleet due to grueling patrols spent mahi fishing and sun tanning. In response, the Coast Guard extended the Island class 110-foot cutters to 123 feet to accommodate a Jacuzzi.

Utilizing cutting edge Gorilla Glue and epoxy techniques, contractors successfully attached a 13 foot extension to 15 patrol boats. However, the project was terminated after one of the extensions sheared off and capsized, nearly killing 52 Haitian migrants.

Coast Guard Commandant Adm. Paul Zukunft says the Legend and Sentinel class cutters have gone through extensive overhauls “to replace hull plating that was originally constructed out of Reynolds Wrap.”

“We had to relieve a skipper after a swordfish burst through the hull of the Coast Guard Cutter Stratton,” Zukunft said. Sources report that the swordfish incident seriously injured a group of Chief Petty Officers who were testing the newest release of Call of Duty.

Yet, amidst the egregious failures and staggering waste of millions of taxpayer dollars, the Coast Guard is hopeful.

“We’ve got some really solid designs on the drawing board,” said Wallace. “And these cutters are going to have some really practical features, like a waterslide for the non-rates and four missile tubes to help us hunt down those darn semi-submersibles.”

The short list of bidders are all based out of southeast Louisiana, and are best known for their shoddy workmanship and OSHA violations.
 
AlexT said:
Yes, absolutely. Just to spread some love to another branch, here's another news item that appeared last month.

Coast Guard Mulls Contracts for New Cutters

WASHINGTON, D.C. – The Coast Guard is in the final stages of awarding a contract for the construction of the Offshore Patrol Cutter (OPC), which will replace the aging Medium Endurance Cutters built during the Great Depression. The contract specifically requires a “better than 50-50 chance” the new cutters will not break in half, according to sources familiar with the RFP.

Analysts predict that the OPC will be no exception to the long list of Coast Guard contracting fiascoes.

“We don’t have that DoD money, so we had to cut cost while still keeping our folks safe,'” said Capt. Marsellus Wallace, a spokesperson for the Coast Guard. “Plus, I remember making little tin foil boats in my Naval Engineering classes at the Coast Guard Academy. It’s quality material.”

In the 2000s, the Coast Guard noticed an alarming decrease in the operational readiness of its cutter fleet due to grueling patrols spent mahi fishing and sun tanning. In response, the Coast Guard extended the Island class 110-foot cutters to 123 feet to accommodate a Jacuzzi.

Utilizing cutting edge Gorilla Glue and epoxy techniques, contractors successfully attached a 13 foot extension to 15 patrol boats. However, the project was terminated after one of the extensions sheared off and capsized, nearly killing 52 Haitian migrants.

Coast Guard Commandant Adm. Paul Zukunft says the Legend and Sentinel class cutters have gone through extensive overhauls “to replace hull plating that was originally constructed out of Reynolds Wrap.”

“We had to relieve a skipper after a swordfish burst through the hull of the Coast Guard Cutter Stratton,” Zukunft said. Sources report that the swordfish incident seriously injured a group of Chief Petty Officers who were testing the newest release of Call of Duty.

Yet, amidst the egregious failures and staggering waste of millions of taxpayer dollars, the Coast Guard is hopeful.

“We’ve got some really solid designs on the drawing board,” said Wallace. “And these cutters are going to have some really practical features, like a waterslide for the non-rates and four missile tubes to help us hunt down those darn semi-submersibles.”

The short list of bidders are all based out of southeast Louisiana, and are best known for their shoddy workmanship and OSHA violations.
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HA Haha good one.
 
LineInTheSand said:
. It's a service that has had MORE than it's share of horrible acquisitions programs. The big one being Deepwater. Take a look at the medical IT thread under Academy/Military News.
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And should be examined and not hidden-- what's your point?
 
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