Just curious about where your "fact is that legacy candidates get a slight bump" facts come from. Inside source? Someone just posted some stats on another thread that if they are accurate hardly show any legacy favoritism.
While I agree with you about MIT and Cal Tech positions WRT legacy admissions, the SA's mission is different. It is to mold and shape future leaders of our nations armed forces. It is more than just about getting an "Ivy League" quality education.I respect top schools like SA, MIT, & Cal tech for not looking at legacy. Almost impossible to get into top Ivy schools if you are not a high donation paying legacy, underrepresented minority, or have economic or social or family hardship. It is getting extremely difficult for middle class 2 educated parent household with a smart all round child to get into top schools these days
From those that I am aware of, 5 of my classmates sons applied. All extremely well qualified. 3 rejections and 2 on Wait List. Unless a miracle happens off the Wait List, our "legacy" success rate will be 0.0%. Not seeing any kind of a "bump"...USNA Admissions has historically said that candidates who have a close relative (parent/sibling) in the military (a category that includes legacies) get a SLIGHT bump on the theory that they have more info about what the military is like and thus are more likely to stay (not to quit). Thus, it makes no difference if you're a legacy of USNA or USMA or if a parent or sibling was in the military in some other capacity (i.e., parent or sibling could have been USAF enlisted and the bump would be the same).
The above said, with increasing info about USNA available through NASS, the Internet, Admissions outreach, etc. -- and the decreased attrition of USNA classes across the board -- I'm not so sure that today there is any bump. If there is, it's not more than the "bump" you get for being captain of a sports team, Eagle Scout, having great math SAT, and on and one. Just one factor of many. Sad for grads whose kids are applying, but the truth.
As a former squadron and wing commander who wrote hundreds of Fitness Reports on LT's and below, I know what a great junior officer looks like. He just walked into the house
Make that 6, with another on the wait list...in agreement, there's no bump to speak of.From those that I am aware of, 5 of my classmates sons applied. All extremely well qualified. 3 rejections and 2 on Wait List. Unless a miracle happens off the Wait List, our "legacy" success rate will be 0.0%. Not seeing any kind of a "bump"...
Just curious, is your son in a competitive district with parent/s in the military? Our district is academically competitive but has no military base or families?While I agree with you about MIT and Cal Tech positions WRT legacy admissions, the SA's mission is different. It is to mold and shape future leaders of our nations armed forces. It is more than just about getting an "Ivy League" quality education.
I'm not expecting a "bump" for me, but it sure would be nice for my son, who put up with a lot the past 18 years, especially post 9/11. For many military kids, I guess if there was a "Yokosuka University", "Osan State" or "GTMO Tech", then they might have a fall back "State U" to aspire to and go to for NROTC. For my son,"State U" was USNA.
As a former squadron and wing commander who wrote hundreds of Fitness Reports on LT's and below, I know what a great junior officer looks like. He just walked into the house.
My only comment would be that the bump is much less than being team captain, Eagle Scout, Etc.To be clear, a "bump" means only a few extra points on the WPM. As noted, it's the same as if your next door neighbor who's not a legacy is an Eagle Scout. He gets a "bump" for that in his WPM and your kid gets a bump for having a military parent. Same thing. IOW, it doesn't make much difference.
Does that depend on SA?
Competitive district with no major military bases or families. FWIW, in addition to the Presidential nomination, my son also had one from our representative and one from each senator. 4 nominations total.Just curious, is your son in a competitive district with parent/s in the military? Our district is academically competitive but has no military base or families?
Now that the anger/rejection/mourning phase is coming to an end, the "Plan B" discussion is underway. Got accepted into several good engineering schools and one Ivy (unaffordable) without NROTC. My guess is that he will be a re-applicant to USNA next year, no matter where he chooses to spend his freshmen year.Hopefully he'll still pursue a commission. The quality of one's character and their future potential as an officer is not measured by the school one graduates from.
I hope he does reapply. Sounds like a kid who will make a heck of a Naval officer.Now that the anger/rejection/mourning phase is coming to an end, the "Plan B" discussion is underway. Got accepted into several good engineering schools and one Ivy (unaffordable) without NROTC. My guess is that he will be a re-applicant to USNA next year, no matter where he chooses to spend his freshmen year.
Sadly, I got the the dreaded TWE. My parents took it worse than I did lol. My mom is in process of cancelling our USNA alumni vehicle tags, season tickets for both foot/basketball games. Both want to cancel being a sponsor family. Geez, Im trying to talk to them into staying a sponsor family. The school that want nothing to do with me and Im trying to help them, weird?? As I told them its not the plebes fault, they dont work in Admissions. They see it as final kick to the gut, especially after Academy kicked/banned various families who donated to the Brigade Sports Complex (yes we donated) a few years ago. Even though Im not an alumni, I can somewhat feel what the OP feels, as my mom is also an alumni. Add my electronic TWE to your kindling pile. Good luck to everyone with their plan B's and if they got in, good luck with the Annapolis humidity...