I need professonal Knowledge regarding ROTC and Declaring Majors

[Thunderbolt]

Hey guys, if I was to declare Civil Engineering with ROTC, but declared a different major to the school itself, would that matter? I'm planning on changing my major once I enter the school, but for now, I don't want to declare the most popular major in the school because it will only decrease my chances. I want to declare something less popular, but along the same lines as my major of choice. I know the ROTC major is definitely the one you got to follow anyways, so I will of course change it.

 

[USNA69]

EG, you continue to come on this forum and ask us how you can get out of the hole you have dug for yourself by telling one group one thing and another another. And have already made up your mind what you are going to do. I guess, at this stage, telling you to just be honest, is a waste of time. The reason this is a good policy is that interviewers are very attuned to this type of behavior and they WILL ferret you out. I do know one case where the applicant was dishonest, USNA found him out and dropped him, but he is at WP today. Maybe you will get lucky.

 

[Thunderbolt]

What the heck are you talking about?

Your response had nothing to do with what I just asked. Please keep this in topic and stop harassing me over and over.

 

[Luigi59]

Hey guys, if I was to declare Civil Engineering with ROTC, but declared a different major to the school itself, would that matter? I'm planning on changing my major once I enter the school, but for now, I don't want to declare the most popular major in the school because it will only decrease my chances. I want to declare something less popular, but along the same lines as my major of choice. I know the ROTC major is definitely the one you got to follow anyways, so I will of course change it.

Let me see if I understand your question:

You want to deceive the admissions office by declaring an intended major that you have no intention of following, and you are asking us if it matters?

For you, I'm sure it doesn't matter at all.

After all, honor is an outdated concept.

 

[Thunderbolt]

Polls indicate that 65-75 percent of all applicants change their major, and had no intention of studying their original declared major. That is not deception. It's just the nature of the beast. Admissions office knows that too. Why choose the hardest major when it minimizes your chances.

 

[USNA69]

Polls indicate that 65-75 percent of all applicants change their major, and had no intention of studying their original declared major. That is not deception. It's just the nature of the beast..

THis statistic is based mostly on those who change their major down the road, not prior to acceptance.

Why choose the hardest major when it minimizes your chances.

Because you are being honest with those who are attempting to place you in the best course of study.

 

[Just_A_Mom]

Who's harassing you?
I was going to say the same thing -


Look - you are juggling a lot - application to Service academies, civilian colleges and rotc scholarships.
I can't even figure out which programs you have/are applying to.
I understand applying to multiple programs but at some point you have to prioitize and figure out what YOU want. It is December already - not knowing is ok in Dec of your junior year but by know you should have a clear idea.


So - I will give you a homework assignment. Think about all the places and programs you have applied to - are applying to and rank them in order.
Focus on what you REALLY want and you can get some good advice on how to get there.
Stop assuming that you can "play the game" - time to be forthright and honest.

 

[Just_A_Mom]

Polls indicate that 65-75 percent of all applicants change their major, and had no intention of studying their original declared major. That is not deception. It's just the nature of the beast. Admissions office knows that too. Why choose the hardest major when it minimizes your chances.

What polls??
I don't know where you are applying but I am working on sending my 4th kids off to college - we have done multiple application and visits at a very wide variety of colleges and universities.

For many colleges they admit you to the school itself not a particular program. So it doesn't matter what you want to major in.

For those colleges that admit you to a particular program - common in programs such as architecture, music, some engineering, nursing etc - if you change your major later on you still have to be admitted to that program.
You plan could backfire in a big way if you are a student at a univeristy and cannot gain admittance to your major of choice.

 

[THURL]

Why not just apply undeclared or liberal arts and stop with the charade? It will be better in the long run to be honest and forthright. I'd give this same advice to my son EG.

Also, I know at least one college that my son applied to told him that if he wanted the Engineering school then apply up front because it would be harder to get accepted into the Engineering school afterwards. Lets say you have a rough first semester {not unheard of}the school may think twice abouting letting you switch.

 

[mom3boys]

declared major

For larger universities, students declare a major just to be assigned an advisor. Later (end of sophomore year), students apply for acceptance into the particular course of study or field. These students are not automatically accepted. It is generally a very competitive process, where grades and integrity play an important role.

 

[jamzmom]

EG, lets go back to step one in life.

Honesty is the cornerstone of all success, without which confidence and ability to perform shall cease to exist. ~ Mary Kay Ash

Honesty is the first chapter in the book of wisdom. ~ Thomas Jefferson

Your plan could backfire in a big way

BINGO!

You will be dealing, for the most part, with adults. These adults have talents in seeing through plots and shortcuts of kids. You're only going to short yourself of your dreams if you aren't very careful.

 

[USNA69]

Exar Ganus,

In 30 yrs of helping candidates get into the Naval Academy, I have never turned my back on anyone. How long have you and I been PMing and working together? 4 months? 6 months? I truly tried to help you on this post and you tell me that I am harrassing you. I think that you have gotten your last piece of advice from me. Good luck.

 

[Thunderbolt]

USNA69,

I'm sorry. I lost my sense of respect to individuals like yourself that have committed so much time to help others. I apologize. I didn't mean it. I know you are just trying to knock some sense into me. You and the others have been very helpful to me.

 

[TacticalNuke]

I don't believe this thread is going anywhere. I am thus forced to lock it.

Exar, please read the General Posting Rules linked in this forum's Code of Conduct.

Do not attack or insult a person in an effort to elicit a negative response. You have a right to disagree, but please do so in a respectful manner.

There are several instances of this in this thread, consider this a warning. Some negativity is bound to be posted now and then, but I don't think you're really interested in the answer to your question anymore.

I leave you with this:

The purpose of this forum is to provide guidance to candidates. Sometimes it's not the information they were looking for, but we're here to give everyone the best possible chances of success, not simply to pat everyone on the back. You may not always like what others have to say, but the individuals here are trying to help you make the best decisions. If you only want to do what you want, there's no need to ask for the approval of others.

Feel free to PM me if you feel that you would like to discuss this.

-TN