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Cfs1041

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since you are obviously brand new to the forums i'll be nice to you.

saying something like that is an open invatiation to start a flame war. it has no relevance to the original question, which by the way has already been completely answered.

if you take the time to go back and read the question, you will see that it was my parentals who were wondering if the occasional "everything goin ok?" message is feasable.

P.S. Don't do me any favors by being nice to me.....all I did was state an opinion...I'll try to remember that they are not allowed on your posts
 

Just_A_Mom

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upsidedown - go easy.......
cfs1041 and I have kids in the same boat this past year - there is wisdom there -

the question by you was:
parents are asking if that would be a good way to just quickly get in touch and make sure everything's ok...

So you are telling me that you are asking this on behalf of your parents? well the quick answer is probably no. There just is not time in the day.
Your parents will not be able to "quickly get in touch with you" - you possibly may "quickly get in touch with them" but there is a huge time crunch.
Even if it is allowed - you probably will not have time for it. My daughter - almost NEVER instant messages, she hardly ever updates her facebook. She will respond to an occasional email. Those things were a big part of her life in high school. When she was home at Christmas - she had lost all interest in TV - she even admitted that everything that was on was "lame". We were treated to the military channel until her sister demanded the remote to change it to Project Runway.
Somethings that are a big part of your high school life - take on new meaning - or no meaning :wink:, once you move on to either the Academy or a prep school.
 

Pima

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Upsidezdown,

I think you are being a little defensive.

Cfs1041....welcome to the forum, that was not in anyway starting a war, and for what its worth I agree with you, our ds couldn't care less either. I also think he is realistic, that he isn't going to have much free time.
 

Cfs1041

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Thank-you both for the support, I have been watching these forums for 2 years now and have got great insight and heard some great stories from all of you. It has been a long road and we all can take pride in our childrens success.
 

zachogden

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Much as I don't really want to get involved in this, I understand what Cfs1041 is saying (I think), which is something I've been trying to articulate gently but haven't been able to. In short, "don't worry about it." Worry about things that matter, not about what websites you won't be able to get on. A lot of people lately on CC and here at SAF have been asking about things that may seem important but really are trivial (I think someone on CC asked if they could have little plants in their dorm or something). I'm not trying to be condescending, but honestly... worry about it when you're there.
 

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on another forum, the kid asked if she could bring her horse?:eek:
 

jamzmom

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Welcome Cfs1041.

Interesting thread and JAM has great insight. :thumb:

Paging Hornetguy.... Paging Hornetguy..... The horse thing made me chuckle then I recalled that they have stables there and an actual team of some kind that competes? Perhaps Hornet knows of this?
 

upsidezdown

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My question about whether or not it was allowed has already been answered, and quite frankly, I don’t care what his opinion is about my time.

Cfs1041- Do not insult my intelligence by lecturing me on time management.
“Look at my original post” meant look at the one about IM not the very first one that started the thread. My mistake, I apologize for not being clearer.

JAM- very good point. that's quite interesting actually.
 

jamzmom

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Thanks JAM. I kinda thought it was AFA. I recall a young lady a few years ago who said she rides there & on a team. Cool stuff!
 
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hornetguy

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My ears were burning jamz. ;)

I have two friends on the equestrian team here. One has two horses, the other one. They love it!

I think e-mail is better than IMing for the purposes of quick updates.

upsidezdown- I see where you're coming from and Cfs does come off a bit rougher. It's one thing to warn of flaming, but you're coming pretty close to starting flaming yourself. Let things slide off and take the underlying message, life's too short with far more important things.

Cfs- I won't be nice. ;) However, telling someone in such a manner that they don't allow opinions is counterproductive to the purpose of these forums, and I honestly didn't feel upsidezdown came off that way. While I also respect that you're a father of an appointee and in saying that your S is happy to be coming and thinks IM is trivial, etc. I can tell you that once at USAFA, many trivial things make a big difference in quality of life. Being honored to be here isn't enough on its own to make life good in the bad, little things like care packages, internet access, phones, talking like a normal person! are all trivial, but make a big difference.

Stick around and keep posting, but please understand that plenty will disagree or have better info or worse info at any time. It's the life of the forums and that's what makes this place rock.

Rant over. :)
 

WAMom68

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Your parents will not be able to "quickly get in touch with you" - you possibly may "quickly get in touch with them" but there is a huge time crunch.
Even if it is allowed - you probably will not have time for it. My daughter - almost NEVER instant messages, she hardly ever updates her facebook. She will respond to an occasional email.

Here is a tip another parent gave me and it has worked so far. My son has a personal email address through yahoo and a school email address at USMA. I only use his school address when I need an answer right away, since he checks that several times per day. Anything else I send to his yahoo address for him to read when he has time. If I have an urgent message or question I put "urgent" or "reply needed today" in the subject line to catch his attention. By keeping the emails to his school account to a minimum he knows that when he receives one there it is important.

I don't even try to use instant messaging with him. Because he is rarely on AIM, and with the 3 hour time difference between us, we are hardly ever on the computer at the same time.
 

LineInTheSand

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I'll preface this with a note that my experiences are from the Coast Guard Academy, so things may very well be different at the Air Force Academy, however policies typically fall along the same restrictions.



You have no expectation of privacy while on the network. This means if your computer is plugged into the provided internet connection, your computer may/will me monitored.

At CGA you could not connect with a wireless. You cannot have file sharing software, visit hate group sites, or look at objectionable material, yes including pornography. You would not have iTunes connected in "sharing" mode, however you could have in on your personnal computer. There are limits to email sizes.

As a 4/c cadet, no AIM, after that, yes, but it does eat up a lot of study time.

No streaming video or audio.

Most of these rules are to keep the network safe and the poor T-1 line running (it can only take so much).


CGA was a .edu, so there were LESS restrictions than the fleet, .edu allows for some educational packages to be loaded, while .mil has more restrictions and is on a different network entirely.

What is nice, is the govt. can provide you with free anti-virus software, with the assumption that some of your work will be brough home too.

In the fleet there are restrictions on what can be played, configurations, and what you can connect (it is a govt. line).


The Coast Guard Academy also had a program running that would monitor your bandwidth usage, go over and you get called out, if you are #1 you get some serious demerits. No one complained, those bandwidth users were killing my internet speed.

Assume you are being monitored at all times, you probably are.
 

hornetguy

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LITS, for the most part, its the same here. Couple exception. Also, because the aero dept needs huge bandwidth for their research needs, the internet lines here are HUGE. They downgrade our bandwidth in the middle of the night to run stuff, but during the day our connections are usually really good.
 

Luigi59

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Also, because the aero dept needs huge bandwidth for their research needs, the internet lines here are HUGE.

But isn't most of that on SIPRNet (or in some cases NIPRNet) and that should already be isolated from the regular public Internet, right?
 

zachogden

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There was a news article regarding the Academy offering a class where 2nd Class Cadets can use SIPRNET (after getting a clearance) to learn about the operational Coast Guard. Maybe that's where.
 

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Cfs- I won't be nice. ;) However, telling someone in such a manner that they don't allow opinions is counterproductive to the purpose of these forums, and I honestly didn't feel upsidezdown came off that way. While I also respect that you're a father of an appointee and in saying that your S is happy to be coming and thinks IM is trivial, etc. I can tell you that once at USAFA, many trivial things make a big difference in quality of life.

Agreed. I would like to think that there is no such thing as a stupid question for new candidates but, apparently a lot of these NEW SA parents disagree.
 
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