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Discussion in 'Air Force Academy - USAFA' started by Merlinity, Oct 12, 2018.

  1. bopper

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    Do know that you can't start as a freshman (e.g., start over) at another school. You have a college GPA and that GPA will go with you. Scholarships are harder to get as a transfer (you will be a transfer).
     
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    This has got my attention, I am interested to hear what Holden Caulfield decided.
     
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    Why would you post a person's name on an anonymous forum?
     
  5. bopper

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    Holden Caulfield is a fictional character in author J. D. Salinger's 1951 novel The Catcher in the Rye
     
  6. ders_dad

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    LOL - The Catcher in the Rye is no longer part of the reading list in most high schools (and thank God for that!). (BTW, I got your reference immediately and thought it was pretty good).
     
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  7. Korab

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    why???
     
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    In my opinion (and everyone is entitled to one so here is mine) - the language of Salinger is dated and doesn't ring true with most teens these days. I think the themes are great - maybe timeless. Also, it works for a certain age and then it doesn't. FWIW, I went to a Catholic high school where it was banned.
     
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  9. Korab

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    You could say the same of Shakespeare. I think it's a great book, probably the best of the 20th century lit required readings I had. It was required reading (by me) for my kids. Yes, there is a certain age where it hits them harder, but I don't think it ever loses its relevance. Another in this category would be Lord of The Flies.

    And now back to your regularly scheduled programming...
     
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  10. ders_dad

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    point well taken
     
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    Half the fun of the forum, is googling clues to figure out who everyone is:) Now I want to go get the cliff notes on this Holden Caulfield character! Nah, I'll just wiki it.
     
  12. the number

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    If you never read The Catcher in the Rye, its about teen angst and a kid who can’t see the forest for the trees. Holden thinks most adults don’t know anything and the rules, tradition, and norms are "stupid".
    Merlinity has that same angst going on.
     
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    The real issue with Shakespeare is that everyone has stolen his stories and when you start reading his stuff, it feels derivative. The irony being of course that he wrote them first (supposedly as he has been accused of stealing the stories) while authors copied his plots to write books and movies. Same problem with Edger Rice Burroughs. Although Princess of Mars (movie) wasnt very good, those unfamilar with the book would feel that the story has already been done a millions times. The truth being is has been done a million times, but ERB did it first.
     
  14. Korab

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    ERB wrote something other than the Tarzan series?
     
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    He wrote the Princes of Mars (Barsoom) series which is probably the best thing he ever wrote. He wrote several other series with the same types of story. Tarzan was his most famous book (largest series) because they were made into movies, but Princess of Mars (recently made into a bad movie) is what made him huge as a science fiction/adventure writer. He stories and idea have been copied over and over and used in books and movies for the last 100 years
     
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    I wasn't much of a science fiction fan - that explains it.
     
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    Both of the books you reference, "Catcher" and "Lord" are very much love 'em or hate "em type reads. No sense stating where I fall on either...nobody cares.

    IMO, kids in the 60's/70's related more easily with Holden...I don't think kids these days would relate as much (as was mentioned above, due to language, slang). It's not required reading in our HS any longer, though "Lord of the Flies" still is. Very sad that Kurt Vonnegut is not required in our HS; his books are game-changers; even if you're not a sci-fi person (which I am not).
     
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    In high school, I took a Modern American Literature class in which we read “A Catcher in the Rye” (Salinger), “Slaughterhouse Five” (Vonnegut) and “Catch-22” (Heller). All classics in their day, the latter two touching on war and the military. All three wouldn’t resonate well with today’s teens, unfortunately, because they’re tough reads that force you to think more deeply than most phone-addicted teens are willing to do. And they recall a time that now feels antiquated in a world of SnapChat and Instagram.

    The reference to Holden Caulfield was not lost on me, and it was rather apt, if you bothered to read OP. I love when our cultural literacy is tapped and challenged. Sadly, what passes for cultural literacy today typically involves the Kardashians, Lady Gaga and clickbait.

    Yes, I’m a cranky old curmudgeon, thank you very much.
     
  19. Skipper07

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    People never notice anything.

    All joking aside, Catcher in the Rye is one of my favorite books. Any teen, perhaps anyone, who can’t see some of their own character in Holden Caulfield is delusional.
     
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    Holden Caufield! Oh that took me back - WAY back.

    I have no idea what kids read for literature in high schools any more. My neighbor who is just finishing up the 10th grade said they never read one whole book all year, but bits and pieces of famous novels. Say what? I told her she would grow up to be a boob - a word she recognized only as something else. :D
     
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