LOA from the USAFA for class of 23

Sam2018 said:
DS c/o 2021 received an academic LOA in mid Oct 2016, his younger brother just received one for the c/o 2023 on Saturday. Both are strongest in academics. Older sister, c/o 2018 was a recruited swimmer and received one in Oct as well. So they are starting to come out now.
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Could I ask your son's academic and other specs?
Your son seems like the first LOA form USAFA.
 
I don't mind sharing his stats but as many on this site will undoubtedly point out they really aren't relevant to anyone else because each slate is different. I'll PM you.
 
Ok I can't PM you because I guess you don't have enough postings. So here goes,
I think my son is strongest in academics.
SAT 1480, 790 M, 690 V
ACT 33, 35M, 34S, 30E, 34R
9 AP classes completed including Calc BC, Chemistry and Physics, all 4s &5s, National AP Scholar. Taking 5 AP classes this year.
National Merit Commended
4.9 GPA
23/646
Varsity swimming and water polo. All District, Regional Team, District Champ
Multiple leadership activities
NHS VP
Maxed several CFA events
 
Sam2018 said:
Ok I can't PM you because I guess you don't have enough postings. So here goes,
I think my son is strongest in academics.
SAT 1480, 790 M, 690 V
ACT 33, 35M, 34S, 30E, 34R
9 AP classes completed including Calc BC, Chemistry and Physics, all 4s &5s, National AP Scholar. Taking 5 AP classes this year.
National Merit Commended
4.9 GPA
23/646
Varsity swimming and water polo. All District, Regional Team, District Champ
Multiple leadership activities
NHS VP
Maxed several CFA events
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Your son looks standout at everything.
Congrats!
 
Your son looks standout at everything.
Congrats![/QUOTE]

Thanks
 
rusia95 said:
Sam2018 said:
DS c/o 2021 received an academic LOA in mid-Oct 2016, his younger brother just received one for the c/o 2023 on Saturday. Both are strongest in academics. Older sister, c/o 2018 was a recruited swimmer and received one in Oct as well. So they are starting to come out now.
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Could I ask your son's academic and other specs?
Your son seems to like the first LOA form USAFA.
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I do believe there are "Academic LOA," there are just not called "Academic"
USAFA give around 50 LOA per admission year, there are given to recruit and enroll a class of desired composition and diversity: Scholars, Leaders, Athletes, African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Native Americans, Asian Americans, Women, and Soldiers.
I also believe that my son LOA was due to academics.

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OhiogrlfromGA said:
Monarchs'19 my daughter received an academic LOA near the end of Dec. I recall several academic LOA's being issued around the same time (mid Dec '16- early Jan '17). They had sent her an email requesting her to retake the CFA which she did. I think it was a week or two later she received the LOA. From my understanding, LOA's are used to be competitive with large athletic schools to attract top talent. I think academic LOA's might be given out several rounds later. I'm speculating but that's how it worked for us. Hope this helps.

If you get a request for something get it done quickly. Possibly means they are actively evaluating you and possibly trying to overcome something minor that allows them to make you an appt.
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What were your daughters CFA scores when she was requested to retake it? (long time ago, you probably do not recall, but I am asking just in case you remember vaguely what she needed to improve on). How long did USAFA give her to retake the CFA? When was her deadline for the original candidate package?
 
MidCakePa said:
fencersmother said:
I have been on this forum for over ten years and have never once heard of an "academic LOA." What is that???
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I wonder if people are starting to make up terms to fit a desired narrative. For example, “Billy has awesome grades but just OK on everything else, so he got an ‘academic LOA.’” Or, “Jenny is a recruited athlete, so she got an ‘athletic LOA.’”

From an SA perspective, this seems to detract from the “Whole Candidate/Person” concept.
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I agree and it does detract from the WCS. I think people are making these terms up. There is only one LOA issued by USAFA, and it does not distinguish between Academic, Athletic, Diversity and Whatever You Think Your Kid Got It For categories. Let's not start making this a "Hey, my academic LOA is better than your athletic LOA or my kid's Diversity LOA is more unique than your kid's Homeschooler one" contest. The smartest kids in my kid's class were also Div I athletes( and not just football) and are now in pilot training . A bunch of those athletic types were also smart enough and are now in med school or grad school. THREE of the kids we know that got LOAs -> kicked out of USAFA before junior year.

To the kids that get them, congrats on the LOA, don't rest on your laurels, now get everything done and hopefully you get that appointment. Make sure DODMERB doesn't trip you up. Every year we see it here - Yeyy I got my LOA -> DODMERB says not cleared -> no appointment or kids don't get a nomination -> no appointment.

And oh BTW, on I-day, NOBODY will care if you got an LOA. And if that bothers you enough, do mention it to the BCT cadre, they will make sure you get recognized for it.
 
skismuggs said:
I agree and it does detract from the WCS. I think people are making these terms up. There is only one LOA issued by USAFA, and it does not distinguish between Academic, Athletic, Diversity and Whatever You Think Your Kid Got It For categories. Let's not start making this a "Hey, my academic LOA is better than your athletic LOA or my kid's Diversity LOA is more unique than your kid's Homeschooler one" contest. The smartest kids in my kid's class were also Div I athletes( and not just football) and are now in pilot training . A bunch of those athletic types were also smart enough and are now in med school or grad school. THREE of the kids we know that got LOAs -> kicked out of USAFA before junior year.

To the kids that get them, congrats on the LOA, don't rest on your laurels, now get everything done and hopefully you get that appointment. Make sure DODMERB doesn't trip you up. Every year we see it here - Yeyy I got my LOA -> DODMERB says not cleared -> no appointment or kids don't get a nomination -> no appointment.

And oh BTW, on I-day, NOBODY will care if you got an LOA. And if that bothers you enough, do mention it to the BCT cadre, they will make sure you get recognized for it.
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That is the beauty of this wonderful country...everybody is allow to give opinions...so we very much thank you for your opinion which is just that an opinion.
 
hopefullmom2023, I'm guessing skismuggs "opinion" carries some weight. You might be wise to hold off on the snark, until you know better.

I love the idea that idea of reporting that "Academic" (or any other new category) LOA on I-Day to your cadre, while wearing the "Fly Navy!" t-shirt. Yeah, that should work out just great.
 
skismuggs said:
And oh BTW, on I-day, NOBODY will care if you got an LOA. And if that bothers you enough, do mention it to the BCT cadre, they will make sure you get recognized for it.
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My DD got an LOA. If there was such a thing, she could probably say it was an “academic LOA” because that was the strongest component of her application. It did not protect her from getting her academic a$$ chewed up in plebe year. Good thing she didn’t mention her LOA to anyone on I-Day.
 
Sam2018 said:
Ok I can't PM you because I guess you don't have enough postings. So here goes,
I think my son is strongest in academics.
SAT 1480, 790 M, 690 V
ACT 33, 35M, 34S, 30E, 34R
9 AP classes completed including Calc BC, Chemistry and Physics, all 4s &5s, National AP Scholar. Taking 5 AP classes this year.
National Merit Commended
4.9 GPA
23/646
Varsity swimming and water polo. All District, Regional Team, District Champ
Multiple leadership activities
NHS VP
Maxed several CFA events
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Is your son still in HS?
 
fencersmother said:
LWHW4 said:
Ok so your comment is a bit salty.
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By the way, I love this!!!! It has been several decades since I or any comment I made was called "salty." :) <3
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Your welcome ... You could have said it much nicer though. This coming from a person who tells people like it is & my husband has to get onto me. LOL I just know how stressful & hard this whole entire process was/is for new moms.
 
LWHW4 said:
Sam2018 said:
Ok I can't PM you because I guess you don't have enough postings. So here goes,
I think my son is strongest in academics.
SAT 1480, 790 M, 690 V
ACT 33, 35M, 34S, 30E, 34R
9 AP classes completed including Calc BC, Chemistry and Physics, all 4s &5s, National AP Scholar. Taking 5 AP classes this year.
National Merit Commended
4.9 GPA
23/646
Varsity swimming and water polo. All District, Regional Team, District Champ
Multiple leadership activities
NHS VP
Maxed several CFA events
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Is your son still in HS?
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Yes, he's a senior.
 
MidCakePa said:
My DD got an LOA
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Just as likely your DD got an LOA because of her gender (sorry! sometimes it's true - not always), her sport, her business, her class office, her race (it happens, don't get your knickers in a twist), etc. Until you are on the Admissions Board, you aren't likely to know what your DD had that they WANTED badly enough to offer an LOA.
 
fencersmother said:
Just as likely your DD got an LOA because of her gender (sorry! sometimes it's true - not always), her sport, her business, her class office, her race (it happens, don't get your knickers in a twist), etc. Until you are on the Admissions Board, you aren't likely to know what your DD had that they WANTED badly enough to offer an LOA.
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Exactly my point, @fencersmother. I wrote my post to point out that no one knows what an “academic LOA” is and that, in the end, it just doesn’t matter. Your point bolsters mine, which I appreciate.
 
fencersmother said:
hopefullmom2023, I'm guessing skismuggs "opinion" carries some weight. You might be wise to hold off on the snark, until you know better.

I love the idea that idea of reporting that "Academic" (or any other new category) LOA on I-Day to your cadre, while wearing the "Fly Navy!" t-shirt. Yeah, that should work out just great.
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First of all @skismuggs. Please accept my most sincere apologies, It was not my intention to offend you and I do value your opinion.

@fencersmother, don’t get defensive
I can assure you that all the new parents follow you and admire you.

I had read all your posts. Sometimes you have inspired me and others I had thought “WoW”

I decided to give it a different name to the LOA like the official USAFA board minutes do.
“Scholars LOA”

It does not matter: the application, the LOA, the appointment, the academies.
We know nothing about what life has awaiting for our children in the morning. At least I only want them healthy and safe.

We are all waiting now to see if we get a nomination and then we will wait to see if we get an appointment. Then, we will cry “Letter-Day” whichever place they ended up at.

And we will wait and wait because all the accumulated wisdom in these forums had taught us once thing “hurry and wait”

I particularly know nothing about your second paragraph, read it 3 times I couldn’t understand it. So, I when to my friend Google and asked.

I will make sure my DS does not mention the word LOA to anyone, just in case.
My civilian interpretation is that they will choose him to be abuse so he can develop his character.

By the way isn’t I-Day at the Naval Academy? He is really hoping for R-Day but if God choose I-Day for him that will also be okay. What is the letter for USAFA first day? He will also be ok with ?-Day at USAFA.

He wants to serve his country and have a military career.

Cadre, “fly-Navy abusive teacher or t-shirt“ “hold off on the snark”

So much to learn, I love it.
 
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