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AAKV

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Does anyone know AFA weights nominations differently depending on type - county, senator, presidential, etc....
 
AAKV said:
Does anyone know AFA weights nominations differently depending on type - county, senator, presidential, etc....
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As stated above, a nom is a nom. However, I have found from personal experience a nomination from a representative is easier to receive than a senator nomination, just less competition.
 
JohnRambo said:
As stated above, a nom is a nom. However, I have found from personal experience a nomination from a representative is easier to receive than a senator nomination, just less competition.
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my son received a nom from our CA state senator but not our local congresswoman. I was curious if the senatorial held more weight?
 
AAKV said:
my son received a nom from our CA state senator but not our local congresswoman. I was curious if the senatorial held more weight?
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A nom is a nom is a nom. One does not outweigh the other. Some MOCs coordinate their slates, others don’t. Beware reading too much into the source of noms, the nature of slates, and the number of noms.
 
Not necessarily. A nomination is a nomination. They don't prefer one over the other.
 
I thought Presidential would, just by the nature of how you get it. I thought they're almost assured a spot in SA?
 
Candd82026 said:
I thought Presidential would, just by the nature of how you get it. I thought they're almost assured a spot in SA.
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I recommend going to the top of the Nominations forum and reading the Sticky Note pinned there.

Presidential and other service-connected nominations are based on eligibility. If an applicant is eligible and applies for it, they get it. But - only 100 appointments/class can be charged to the Presidential nomination authority. In any one year, there could be a few hundred eligible to get that nom. There is competition in that nom category “bucket” for those appointments.

All candidates must be fully qualified (medical, physical, academic/all other stuff) plus have at least 1 nom, to be eligible to be offered an appointment. Every year, there are many more fully qualified candidates with nominations than there are seats available in the class.

If you haven’t yet read every page, link and menu item on the SA website, I strongly recommend it.

Heed the advice on SA websites to apply for all noms for which you are eligible. That gives the SA more flexibility in where to charge an appointment, should they wish to offer you one. For most, that means 2 Senators, 1 Representative, VP, plus any service-connected ones, and possible JROTC or college ROTC.
 
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Principal vs presidential

Principal what kind of ranking with in a nomination. It mean a nominators number one pick. If you are 3 Qualified, your nomination will be charged to that nominator. This differs from other nominators who may give the people they picked and let USAFA choose who's best from the list. You normally don't know which way it is unless specifically told.

Presidential is a type of nomination given by the president. This is where the only 100 slots are available. Everyone who applies receives this but it's only for those with military connection. Also as only a 100 slots are available it's treated like vice president. They want you to have another nomination so they can save this charge for those who they really really want but were in a very competitive state/ district/ both.
 
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ak29 said:
Not necessarily. A nomination is a nomination. They don't prefer one over the other.
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A principal nomination for a qualified candidate is a GUARANTEED appointment Is it Federal Law. So the principal nomination is different from the other ones.
 
luqui03 said:
A principal nomination for a qualified candidate is a GUARANTEED appointment Is it Federal Law. So the principal nomination is different from the other ones.
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See link below, page 5, Note 16, which addresses the fact the language on principal noms does differ for USNA. They do usually follow the practice of giving a fully qualified (in USNA’s eyes, plus medical and CFA) applicant an appointment, regardless of whether they scored that candidate highest on the slate. The candidate might be minimally qualified, but the principal nom forces the appointment to be the one charged to the elected official. Fortunately, other fully qualified candidates on the slate may be offered an appointment and charged to other nom sources, so there is flexibility.
https://www.everycrsreport.com/files/20191218_RL33213_f3a4006314d3a115f3b527e698866af2075056c5.pdf
 
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FlyFalcon said:
Presidential is a type of nomination given by the president. This is where the only 100 slots are available. Everyone who applies receives this but it's only for those with military connection.
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CAREER military parent as opposed to a veteran parent. Generally it is either a parent currently serving (active/reserve) or retired with 20 or more yrs of service.
 
Capt MJ said:
See link below, page 5, Note 16, which addresses the fact the language on principal noms does differ for USNA. They do usually follow the practice of giving a fully qualified (in USNA’s eyes, plus medical and CFA) applicant an appointment, regardless of whether they scored that candidate highest on the slate. The candidate might be minimally qualified, but the principal nom forces the appointment to be the one charged to the elected official. Fortunately, other fully qualified candidates on the slate may be offered an appointment and charged to other nom sources, so there is flexibility.
https://www.everycrsreport.com/files/20191218_RL33213_f3a4006314d3a115f3b527e698866af2075056c5.pdf
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Thank you for clarifying Capt MJ. So the USNA is the weird one, right? 🤣🤣🤣 It is a joke people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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