NROTC MO chances?

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Falcon51

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Hello all, I was wondering if I have a good shot at receiving the NROTC MO scholarship with these stats:

3.75 UW GPA/ 4.07 W
All honors and 7 AP classes (CALC AB, Physics C Mechanics, APES, AP CSA, AP CSP, AP GOV, AP Stats)
aspiring mechanical engineering major
4 year varsity Lacrosse
1330 SAT 670 r/w 660 math
250 PFT (9 pull ups (smh), max plank, 19:22 run)
LOTS of community service and leadership billets (involving volunteering)
train with local rss
Good interview from my perspective
highest honor roll in my school
Good teacher recommendations (some 8s, mostly 9s and 10s)
Great essays

I'm really hoping things work out. My pft can definitely improve for the 2nd board with pull up work but the 250 is final for the first board. Any feedback or tips to improve are appreciated. Thanks!
 
Try to max the pull ups and improve your run.
I my son’s experience, the PFT counts for a whole lot.
 
I don’t know about a 250, but I just know that they expect their officers to be able to do lots of pulls ups and be able to run.
 
DS is a Marine 2LT, via USNA. She’d concur re pull-ups and the run. You need to be above average there. The Marines are a very physical bunch and take their fitness very seriously.
 
As you mentioned, that PFT (while it may be good enough) can be improved. No reason you can't get to 20 with work. Get a pull-up bar and do them a few times a day.

It's always beneficial to try to improve SAT., NROTC MO or not. It helps with any college application.
 
Agree with all the previous posts. I can't remember seeing stats from a MO winner with a PFT in the 250 range. My recollection is the average is in the 270+ range. This is a good time to focus on getting comfortable with pullups and the other PFT components. Should you be awarded the scholarship, the PFT standards only get harder as you navigate the training cycles. Physical fitness is one of the core requirements to become a Marine Officer. Best of luck to you.
 
Besides working directly on pullups you might try a climbing wall, which hits a lot of the same muscles and is much more fun. DS used to jog 2 miles to get to his climbing wall.... worked there for about an hour.... and jogged 2 miles back home... in prep for his PFT. You can probably improve run time by doing sprint intervals. See Stew Smith online.
 
Pull ups give the greatest bump in the score. As others have said, work on max’ing that portion. I believe each is worth 5 points.

You wrote that you work out with the local recruiting station poolies. They need to push you more.

While I agree with focusing on the PFT and raising the score, I feel the interviews and essays are also equally important. You feel they went well. I hope so but be open to the fact your opinion may not always be reality.
 
@papar

There is simply no way to estimate your chances, because none of us knows the competition. You have a strong, well-rounded resume. Good luck!
 
for my recruiting district, I know my officer recruiter told me I was 2 places away from being selected on the early board. I had similar, if not a little lower stats than you, and my PFT was a 257. However I believe scholarship selections are based on RDs, so it may be more/less competitive for you.

He mentioned that 257 is on the lower end of competitive scores, and it's best to be in the 270-280s. So like others have said, the PFT needs work.
 
sngtlm said:
for my recruiting district, I know my officer recruiter told me I was 2 places away from being selected on the early board. I had similar, if not a little lower stats than you, and my PFT was a 257. However I believe scholarship selections are based on RDs, so it may be more/less competitive for you.

He mentioned that 257 is on the lower end of competitive scores, and it's best to be in the 270-280s. So like others have said, the PFT needs work.
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Got you. For my district my xo said my sat score was very impressive considering what he's seen so far which I'm hoping will hold some weight over the lacking pft. the pft will go up tho, my first was 229 with 5 pull ups so if I keep putting time in i'll get a 280+ for winter board hopefully.
 
So is there an option to be part of NROTC MO without the scholarship? All of these stats are very similar to my DS. The NROTC coordinator didn't say anything about the PFT other than "you passed". DS already has 2 full rides within our state, but is aspiring to be a MC officer.
 
Absolutely. PLC program is what many officers use to commission without the scholarship. If your sons college has nrotc he can join the program there as well without scholarships. Also, what does DS mean? I think it means son? Not sure though
 
I overheard a discussion between my AMOI and a potential MO candidate who was asking if his PFT score was high enough. The AMOI asked him if he thought he could do better with more practice, to which the answer was "yes'. Next question was whether he would stop trying to improve if a Marine told him his score was good enough. The candidate paused for a second and was thinking about it. AMOI quickly offered........that should NOT have been a hard question to answer! So, do the best you can, so that you aren't "nibbling" at the edges of what could be competitive.
 
Falcon51 said:
Absolutely. PLC program is what many officers use to commission without the scholarship. If your sons college has nrotc he can join the program there as well without scholarships. Also, what does DS mean? I think it means son? Not sure though
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Yes DS is son. DD is daughter. "Darling" or "darn", depending on context. He only applied to schools with MC NROTC units.

He was only offered 1 test before boards. He knows he needs to improve on running (which was the only low score). He's a swimmer and just finished up his season (can't really run & swim at the same time). He's now joining track & will definitely improve throughout the end of the school year.
 
2028Mom? said:
So is there an option to be part of NROTC MO without the scholarship? All of these stats are very similar to my DS. The NROTC coordinator didn't say anything about the PFT other than "you passed". DS already has 2 full rides within our state, but is aspiring to be a MC officer.
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One can enroll in NROTC MO without the scholarship. My son did this. He was awarded a scholarship in his sophomore year. You should contact the NROTC unit at the college he plans to attend in first half of April to get the ball rolling
 
2028Mom? said:
So is there an option to be part of NROTC MO without the scholarship? All of these stats are very similar to my DS. The NROTC coordinator didn't say anything about the PFT other than "you passed". DS already has 2 full rides within our state, but is aspiring to be a MC officer.
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Absolutely you may enroll as a college programmer….although some may believe that enrolling with an NROTC/MO scholarship gives the Service more of an incentive to see you succeed, I doubt there is substantial evidence this is so. Your motivation and performance and while in the program annd needs of the service are the prime criteria of whether you are offered a commission four years from now. In fact, if your college choice is offering you full academic rides (that require only academic performance), it may be wise to take these scholarships over the NROTC/MO scholarship and enroll as a college programmer. So many things can happen during a 4 year college experience, including medical and physical disqualification, as well as change of pchoice of careers, that keeping all your options open from the start, could be a wise decision. This is especially true if the “full rides” include room and board - which are not included with tuition with NROTC/MO scholarships.
 
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