Nrotc results

Another national NROTC scholarship (4-year) winner in Texas today! So happy to see the first real recognition of the grind my son has been on for years. I really felt for him Sunday night when he got home from teaching 6 hours of cotillion, slumped over his desk doing homework in a coat and tie, coming down with the flu, after working more than 20 hours this weekend total (asked at his main job to cover a double shift). He is so honored by the award.

Tier 3 winner and very happy to see a huge step in a positive direction for his Plan B at our alma mater Texas A&M! He is an auto-admit due to class rank so the big question remaining is a difficult medical waiver.
 
NavyFamilyTN said:
That’s great!!!

Congrats!!You all are in TN right? Does the email come from someone in TN, Pensacola, etc? Thx. Hoping DS hears something soon.
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Thank you! We are in TN. The email came from NSTC. Have your DS check the portal for his status. If it says "No decision has been made," and the application is received, it's my understanding the application has been or will be reviewed at the next board. Hoping for good news for you all soon!
 
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So the NROTC scholarship covers out of state for tier -1?

Type 1 for AFROTC covers out of state and type 7 I believe is in-state only.
 
txfwindian said:
So the NROTC scholarship covers out of state for tier -1?

Type 1 for AFROTC covers out of state and type 7 I believe is in-state only.
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It covers full tuition and fees at whatever school it is placed (typically the first choice designated on your application). Some schools also offer additional money for room and board, some don't.
 
DS received NROTC scholarship notification today to his top choice. Top NROTC choice is very competitive and he can’t do ED application as his plan A is USNA.
I know I’ve seen some discussion about this, but I can’t find a suitable thread. Does it make sense to contact the school’s CO and visit? Does it help with acceptance to do so? This school is a plane flight away, and we’ve visited the campus already, but did not meet with CO. I don’t mind heading down again if I thought it would help.

Thoughts?
 
Happy to report DS received NROTC Scholarship notice today too! Tier 2 major at his top pick (is that standard?) out here in Cali. I cannot express the relief felt in this household when that email came through. Living the life of "assume it's a no until you hear a yes" has been tough on my guy (for everyone on this forum too, I would guess). So grateful for the "yes."

@NavyFamilyTN The email looks triggered from an update in the portal. Not sure who updates the portal, could be the regional team. May explain why notifications are received at different days/times? Sincerely hoping you hear your "yes" soon!
 
Congrats to each of you who have just received the NROTC National Scholarship! Quite an accomplishment for your DDs and DSs! For those who haven't yet heard from the board - please remember the great majority of scholarship offers and several rounds of consideration are still coming in the 6 months ahead - hang in there and know it may be a long haul.

With regards to the SAs, there are a lot of candidates who ultimately get TWE'd (not accepted) , but I think there is a solid correlation of those who get the very early AROTC/NROTC scholarships and those who would qualify for those elite SA slots. Not a guarantee, but encouraging. I know a few kids who got both first rounds ROTC scholarships and SA appts to West Point and Annapolis. I personally don't know folks in that boat for AFROTC but that doesn't mean anything. As @kinnem and perhaps others often say, just keep working your plans A,B,C,D,E with rigor and good luck/ hope this helps.
 
SCubb said:
DS received NROTC scholarship notification today to his top choice. Top NROTC choice is very competitive and he can’t do ED application as his plan A is USNA.
I know I’ve seen some discussion about this, but I can’t find a suitable thread. Does it make sense to contact the school’s CO and visit? Does it help with acceptance to do so? This school is a plane flight away, and we’ve visited the campus already, but did not meet with CO. I don’t mind heading down again if I thought it would help.

Thoughts?
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@SCubb First - congrats to your DS and family!

My DS was in a similar albeit a little bit different of a boat last year - he was one of those rare ducks who wanted ROTC, didn't apply to SAs, wasn't interested when Annapolis saw his NROTC application and recruited him), so in my DS's case it was an easy YES to call the top school with scholarship in hand, express interest, and continue to build a relationship. And yes he went on-site to meet, shadow a midshipman, etc.

Can it help with admission - the real skinny? The official line is that the applications are separate/ distinct. But they don't have to be, and in some cases are not. Short answer is YES they ROO/ PMS can go to bat and advocate with the admission powers that be and YES it can absolutely help. There is no guarantee but last year for my DS they did just this at one of his top choice schools and we had a change from wait-list to accepted 5 days after a letter was hand delivered to the University president and director of admissions from the PMS. Just be aware that unfortunately, some of these leaders are a little bit leary/ some have been burned by kids who really want a SA but decided to pretend to be all-in interested in the school- if they get even a whiff of that, they won't lift a finger to help. So just be honest as I'm sure you already are, and yes I would reach out to build a relationship.

Ultimately *but not yet* I recommend an on-site shadowing at the top 2 or 3 choices - DS and I learned an awful lot through these. really get to know from the midshipman perspective, stay in a dorm, eat at the dining hall, etc. So maybe that would be when you pay for the planeride- in the spring. It solidified his decision - was super-informative. I think they do this at the SAs sometimes too - not sure.

Getting on a plane? IDK. in your case, I wouldn't yet. I would certainly call, and point out that you had boots on ground and met with their ROTC unit in an orientation meeting or whatever. I'd have your son make the calls /emails and build a relationship (read: not you, him). I might hold off on that planeride until you hear from the SA and rule it out, or if and or until your DS decides he wants the school as his path. Hopefully he'll get into the SA - I don't know him, so don't take the comment as a knock. In your DSs case, IMO it's a little tougher to make that investment/ ask for influence on admissions as you're interested, but not committed. It's like a the old pig and chicken who open a breakfast joint together. The pig is committed (Bacon), and the chicken has a lower level of all-in by laying the eggs but walking away. Right now for this school you're a "chicken" not a pig. but I would just recommend being honest and expressing that your plan A is the SA, but that if he ends up going the non-SA route, he's coming if they'll have him.

IDK if that advice will connect with you but I hope it does. I suspect others may offer that the PMS/ ROOs cannot influence admissions. To which I say, simply - that's nonsense- for a fact, they can, they may, and if they chose to they can influence greatly. Good luck.
 
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kinnem said:
For NROTC there is only 1 type - a 4 year scholarship to be followed by active duty. Only AF has scholarship types.
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My DS was awarded a NROTC and AFROTC scholarship. My question is do we update his SA applications as far as awards? Does it help make him more competitive or do the academies not really care about these? Thanks for the advice!!
 
Herman_Snerd said:
@SCubb First - congrats to your DS and family!

My DS was in a similar albeit a little bit different of a boat last year - he was one of those rare ducks who wanted ROTC, didn't apply to SAs, wasn't interested when Annapolis saw his NROTC application and recruited him), so in my DS's case it was an easy YES to call the top school with scholarship in hand, express interest, and continue to build a relationship. And yes he went on-site to meet, shadow a midshipman, etc.

Can it help with admission - the real skinny? The official line is that the applications are separate/ distinct. But they don't have to be, and in some cases are not. Short answer is YES they ROO/ PMS can go to bat and advocate with the admission powers that be and YES it can absolutely help. There is no guarantee but last year for my DS they did just this at one of his top choice schools and we had a change from wait-list to accepted 5 days after a letter was hand delivered to the University president and director of admissions from the PMS. Just be aware that unfortunately, some of these leaders are a little bit leary/ some have been burned by kids who really want a SA but decided to pretend to be all-in interested in the school- if they get even a whiff of that, they won't lift a finger to help. So just be honest as I'm sure you already are, and yes I would reach out to build a relationship.

Ultimately *but not yet* I recommend an on-site shadowing at the top 2 or 3 choices - DS and I learned an awful lot through these. really get to know from the midshipman perspective, stay in a dorm, eat at the dining hall, etc. So maybe that would be when you pay for the planeride- in the spring. It solidified his decision - was super-informative. I think they do this at the SAs sometimes too - not sure.

Getting on a plane? IDK. in your case, I wouldn't yet. I would certainly call, and point out that you had boots on ground and met with their ROTC unit in an orientation meeting or whatever. I'd have your son make the calls /emails and build a relationship (read: not you, him). I might hold off on that planeride until you hear from the SA and rule it out, or if and or until your DS decides he wants the school as his path. Hopefully he'll get into the SA - I don't know him, so don't take the comment as a knock. In your DSs case, IMO it's a little tougher to make that investment/ ask for influence on admissions as you're interested, but not committed. It's like a the old pig and chicken who open a breakfast joint together. The pig is committed (Bacon), and the chicken has a lower level of all-in by laying the eggs but walking away. Right now for this school you're a "chicken" not a pig. but I would just recommend being honest and expressing that your plan A is the SA, but that if he ends up going the non-SA route, he's coming if they'll have him.

IDK if that advice will connect with you but I hope it does. I suspect others may offer that the PMS/ ROOs cannot influence admissions. To which I say, simply - that's nonsense- for a fact, they can, they may, and if they chose to they can influence greatly. Good luck.
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Thanks @herman. This makes perfect sense. SA is DS’s top choice. Personally, I would like him to have as many options as possible before committing to anything. But I think we will wait before reaching out. I certainly wouldn’t want him to convey any message other than a full commitment.
Thanks for the thoughtful response.
 
It seems possible that in this discussion people are mixing up the terms "type" and "tier" when referring to the NROTC scholarship. There is only one "type" of NROTC national scholarship. There are three "tiers" (Tier 1, Tier 2, Tier 3) related to one's indication of major (course of study). There is also LREC, which is a subset of Tier 3.
 
SCubb said:
DS received NROTC scholarship notification today to his top choice. Top NROTC choice is very competitive and he can’t do ED application as his plan A is USNA.
I know I’ve seen some discussion about this, but I can’t find a suitable thread. Does it make sense to contact the school’s CO and visit? Does it help with acceptance to do so? This school is a plane flight away, and we’ve visited the campus already, but did not meet with CO. I don’t mind heading down again if I thought it would help.

Thoughts?
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My son was told that large public (state) universities typically won't be able to go to bat for your child with the admissions office because of state mandates, but smaller private colleges with ROTC detachments will have the ability to let admissions know that they have a great kid that they would like admitted.
 
Adopt3 said:
My DS was awarded a NROTC and AFROTC scholarship. My question is do we update his SA applications as far as awards? Does it help make him more competitive or do the academies not really care about these? Thanks for the advice!!
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I have the same question.
 
txfwindian said:
So the NROTC scholarship covers out of state for tier -1?

Type 1 for AFROTC covers out of state and type 7 I believe is in-state only.
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You are confusing AFROTC scholarships with NROTC scholarships.
NROTC does not have scholarship types that vary benefits between in-state, out-of-state, etc.
All NROTC scholarships cover all tuition and most fees whether attending college in-state or out-of-state.
NROTC Tiers are roughly equivalent to AFROTC STEM vs non-STEM majors and have nothing to do with the benefits receives.
Each service runs its scholarship program differently.
 
williamsdr3 said:
Tier 3 winner and very happy to see a huge step in a positive direction for his Plan B at our alma mater Texas A&M! He is an auto-admit due to class rank so the big question remaining is a difficult medical waiver.
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Impressive to see a tier 3 winner so early. DS must have an impressive application.

txfwindian said:
So the NROTC scholarship covers out of state for tier -1?

Type 1 for AFROTC covers out of state and type 7 I believe is in-state only.
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As stated above NROTC does not have different types of scholarships. All NROTC scholarships are 4 year and cover full tuition and fees to any in state or out of state colleges. NROTC has tiers, which are based on your intended major. About 80% of scholarships are giver to tier 1 and tier 2 majors. A list of what tier a major falls in can be found on the NROTC website.
SCubb said:
DS received NROTC scholarship notification today to his top choice. Top NROTC choice is very competitive and he can’t do ED application as his plan A is USNA.
I know I’ve seen some discussion about this, but I can’t find a suitable thread. Does it make sense to contact the school’s CO and visit? Does it help with acceptance to do so? This school is a plane flight away, and we’ve visited the campus already, but did not meet with CO. I don’t mind heading down again if I thought it would help.

Thoughts?
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I agree with @Herman_Snerd that the NROTC unit can have some influence on admissions decisions at some schools but not all. My DS applied EA to his top choice school. He was deferred to regular decision. The recruiting officer at the time offered to contact admissions on his behalf. DS also contacted admissions expressing that this was his top choice and would attend if admitted. (He also advised he had a full pay NROTC scholarship in hand). Not sure if either thing made the difference, but he was admitted first wave of regular decision. Also agree I would not seek intervention from the unit unless this is his top choice.
 
Adopt3 said:
My DS was awarded a NROTC and AFROTC scholarship. My question is do we update his SA applications as far as awards? Does it help make him more competitive or do the academies not really care about these? Thanks for the advice!!
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The academies don't care that one is awarded a ROTC scholarship of any type. Receiving a scholarship award does nothing to improve one's academy competitiveness. There is no point in updating a service academy application.
 
Herman_Snerd said:
Congrats to each of you who have just received the NROTC National Scholarship! Quite an accomplishment for your DDs and DSs! For those who haven't yet heard from the board - please remember the great majority of scholarship offers and several rounds of consideration are still coming in the 6 months ahead - hang in there and know it may be a long haul.

With regards to the SAs, there are a lot of candidates who ultimately get TWE'd (not accepted) , but I think there is a solid correlation of those who get the very early AROTC/NROTC scholarships and those who would qualify for those elite SA slots. Not a guarantee, but encouraging. I know a few kids who got both first rounds ROTC scholarships and SA appts to West Point and Annapolis. I personally don't know folks in that boat for AFROTC but that doesn't mean anything. As @kinnem and perhaps others often say, just keep working your plans A,B,C,D,E with rigor and good luck/ hope this helps.
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Is this considered very early to receive the NROTC Scholarship?
 
@HopefulMidMom Is this considered very early to receive the NROTC Scholarship?

I'll try to answer that - No, but it is rare. It was expected that there would be a very limited number of scholarships granted here in the 4th quarter of 2019 - fits a pattern of recent year notifications. There likely will be more boards and decisions in November and December. I to be clear do not have the schedule. The Navy board meets fairly regularly - see example schedule below. Scholarships will be given out iteratively for the next 5 1/2 to 6 months, and I believe nearly all scholarships or decisions are given out by April 30th, 2020.

There are some people who receive rejections before the end of April. There are some who receive acceptances. And there are a lot of folks who hang in there for months and months then ultimately hear a decision.

Below is a sample schedule of last year's later NROTC boards (this may not have been the final, but was the plan as of December 2018).
14-17 Jan
28 Jan-1 Feb
11-15 Feb
4-8 Mar
18-22Mar
1-5 Apr
15-19 Apr

After some processing/days candidates are either updated with any decisions made or they are potentially reconsidered in the next board. There is often no notice until decisions are made or unless more details are needed (updated transcript or whatever). Should be obvious but not all candidates will be reviewed in each sitting.

Hope this helps or please let me know if specific added details would help.
 
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