Post-Appointment Class of 2027 Hangout: PTR, I-Day, What To Bring, Leave Periods…all that endless new stuff

MrP said:
So for those families that aren’t on this site or Facebook for instance, how are they notified that the PTR is ready to be acted upon?

Waiting for an email that doesn’t arrive until the end of may, when the first materials are due back to USNA on 5/15?
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Fear not! You’ll get the PTR in due time. You don’t need to be on SAF or Facebook to be informed of PTR deadlines. USNA communicates directly with the plebes-to-be, not via SAF or Facebook.

It works. Trust the system. USNA has been doing this for a long time. They know what they’re doing. As long as the plebe-to-be acts on the PTR in a diligent and timely manner — paying attention to detail at every step — it will all work out.
 
USMCfam said:
The official email comes the end of May, but appointees need to get started now.
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Of course!

If I am right I now know that the email will be coming out on May 1st, for anyone wondering.

Per USNA:

ALCON, On Monday, May 1st, all candidates who have accepted an offer to attend USNA or NAPS will be sent a copy of the Permit to Report (PtR) Package via email. The PtR contains all the information a candidate will need to get ready for Induction Day! IF you would like to learn more about the PtR, please see the links below. PtR for Directly Admitted Candidates: https://www.usna.edu/PermitToReport/index.php PtR for NAPSters: https://www.usna.edu/PermitToReport/index.php
 
cbasalt1 said:
Of course!

If I am right I now know that the email will be coming out on May 1st, for anyone wondering.

Per USNA:

ALCON, On Monday, May 1st, all candidates who have accepted an offer to attend USNA or NAPS will be sent a copy of the Permit to Report (PtR) Package via email. The PtR contains all the information a candidate will need to get ready for Induction Day! IF you would like to learn more about the PtR, please see the links below. PtR for Directly Admitted Candidates: https://www.usna.edu/PermitToReport/index.php PtR for NAPSters: https://www.usna.edu/PermitToReport/index.php
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The link for NAPSters is the same for Plebes?
 
What is the day like on I-day? Do you know what parents/families do after they drop off their kid? We are thinking about bringing a 80yo grandma, who has mobility issues. Good idea/bad idea? What do you think? Is it doable?
 
Bad idea imo.

It’s a long, hot, HUMID difficult day for even the fittest.

We did, with both boys, the appointee and mom and dad. Didn’t even take siblings. And both boys later shared, they were thankful for that. It’s emotional for even the most excited plebe to be.

Bring her to parents weekend. That’s a whole different vibe. The time for families to celebrate.

Not saying it’s not do-able. But it will be challenging. And stressful.
 
Jganor said:
Can anyone give guidance? My son is completing PTR documents and the SF86 is a huge 136 page document. Is that possible? I found this link via a google search to USNA.edu that had a much more manageable document.


Guidance would be appreciated.
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You will be skipping a lot of those pages. It will be a work in progress. They will go over it again during plebe year. Having some of this info will help them fill it out.
 
Jganor said:
Can anyone give guidance? My son is completing PTR documents and the SF86 is a huge 136s pagesF document. Is that possible? I foundrs thisces link via a google search to USNA.edu that had a2 much s manageable document.


Guidance would be appreciated.
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Suggestions:

1. Print SF86. (back to back).
2. Fill spaces, follow instructions.
3. Make extra copy.
4. Mid hand carry one copy; parent keep one set.
 
Read all the fine print on the form before diving in. Some things you don’t have to report.
 
Capt MJ said:
Read all the fine print on the form before diving in. Some things you don’t have to report.
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I appreciate the response here and throughout the process, much appreciated. I might not have explained myself well, there are two different SF-86 forms on the USNA website, one is 136 pages and the other is like 8-10. Just curious if one is “outdated,” hopefully the 136 page one.
 
Jganor said:
I appreciate the response here and throughout the process, much appreciated. I might not have explained myself well, there are two different SF-86 forms on the USNA website, one is 136 pages and the other is like 8-10. Just curious if one is “outdated,” hopefully the 136 page one.
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news.clearancejobs.com

How to Complete Your SF-86

For most Federal Government civilian, military and contractor positions, employees are required to complete a Standard Form 86 (SF 86)/electronic security clearance questionnaire (eApp).
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Alchemist said:
news.clearancejobs.com

How to Complete Your SF-86

For most Federal Government civilian, military and contractor positions, employees are required to complete a Standard Form 86 (SF 86)/electronic security clearance questionnaire (eApp).
news.clearancejobs.com news.clearancejobs.com
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Most of the pages are either instructions or questions Plebes to Be probably won't need to answer as they will not apply to them - do you have military experience? Have you used illegal drugs? Have you had counseling for alcohol use? etc. Once they check NO, then they ignore the rest and move on to the next NO response. Most 17-19 year olds have not traveled much, not worked at many jobs, lead clean lives, and will checking NO for most of the pages. Not to worry. Nice to be young and innocent.
 
Tea Baggins said:
What is the day like on I-day? Do you know what parents/families do after they drop off their kid? We are thinking about bringing a 80yo grandma, who has mobility issues. Good idea/bad idea? What do you think? Is it doable?
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Doable, but not easy. And if it's a hot, sweltering day ... well, you get the picture. Definitely makes it more difficult for an elderly person.
 
Tea Baggins said:
What is the day like on I-day? Do you know what parents/families do after they drop off their kid? We are thinking about bringing a 80yo grandma, who has mobility issues.
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It can be a very long day, and both physically and emotionally draining. Depending on the P2B’s report time, after saying farewell you can head back to where you’re staying. Or you can explore the Yard, visit the museum, attend the alumni association’s BBQ, stroll around DTA. Then you head toward Tecumseh Court for the swearing in, jockeying for position and straining to get a glimpse of your P2B. Then after the ceremony, there’s 30 minutes to say more goodbyes before they march into Mother B. Then you head back to your place, maybe with a stop somewhere for a bite and a drink. On a good day, it’s below 80 degrees and 80 percent humidity. And a lot of back-and-forth depending on how you spend the time.

Having been through it, I believe I-Day is best with a small group: parents and perhaps siblings. It’s an emotionally charged day, and stress may not bring out the best in the P2B in the 24 hours prior. PPW is the better time for an extended set of visitors: more time, slower pace, a plebe with many stories to tell.
 
The SF86 is a monster of a document and requires time and precise organization to complete it. It is a huge document. Not all pages will apply (re living overseas, overseas investment or travel). But, it will take time and thought to complete it accurately.

And this is the baseline for your son or daughter’s clearance, accuracy is critical.

Keep a copy for future reference.
 
MidCakePa said:
It can be a very long day, and both physically and emotionally draining. Depending on the P2B’s report time, after saying farewell you can head back to where you’re staying. Or you can explore the Yard, visit the museum, attend the alumni association’s BBQ, stroll around DTA. Then you head toward Tecumseh Court for the swearing in, jockeying for position and straining to get a glimpse of your P2B. Then after the ceremony, there’s 30 minutes to say more goodbyes before they march into Mother B. Then you head back to your place, maybe with a stop somewhere for a bite and a drink. On a good day, it’s below 80 degrees and 80 percent humidity. And a lot of back-and-forth depending on how you spend the time.

Having been through it, I believe I-Day is best with a small group: parents and perhaps siblings. It’s an emotionally charged day, and stress may not bring out the best in the P2B in the 24 hours prior. PPW is the better time for an extended set of visitors: more time, slower pace, a plebe with many stories to tell.
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I can’t speak to attending I Day, my kid is a Covid 2020 so we didn’t have it. And we survived. We don’t know what we missed. And that’s okay.

In the almost three years my son has been a Midshipmen I have learned there are so many types of families that make up the USNA family. Some have disposable income. Some don’t. Some are supportive of their son or daughter’s decision to serve in the armed services. Some are not. Decidedly so. Some have the means and desire to travel to the Yard. Some don’t.

Not all appointed candidates will have family at I Day. And that’s okay. In the old days when my dad and grandfather were appointed, they got a snail mail congrats letter. And they got on a train and headed out to parts unknown.

Without the benefit of YouTube or SAF posts. And they did amazing things!!!

I’ve shared before, and I won’t belabor it. We didn’t go to Covid I Day. We said goodbye at the curb at the airport in AZ. And 168 days later we got the first hug. We all made it. It was a different experience, but not one that was less for the challenges.

If your son or daughter has been appointed and you can’t navigate the cost and logistics, that’s OKAY!!! The link in the chain for the class of 2027 will be present. And any mom or dad present will scoop up and love on your kiddo. This is where “your Mid is my Mid” becomes reality.
 
Heatherg21 said:
I can’t speak to attending I Day, my kid is a Covid 2020 so we didn’t have it. And we survived. We don’t know what we missed. And that’s okay.

In the almost three years my son has been a Midshipmen I have learned there are so many types of families that make up the USNA family. Some have disposable income. Some don’t. Some are supportive of their son or daughter’s decision to serve in the armed services. Some are not. Decidedly so. Some have the means and desire to travel to the Yard. Some don’t.

Not all appointed candidates will have family at I Day. And that’s okay. In the old days when my dad and grandfather were appointed, they got a snail mail congrats letter. And they got on a train and headed out to parts unknown.

Without the benefit of YouTube or SAF posts. And they did amazing things!!!

I’ve shared before, and I won’t belabor it. We didn’t go to Covid I Day. We said goodbye at the curb at the airport in AZ. And 168 days later we got the first hug. We all made it. It was a different experience, but not one that was less for the challenges.

If your son or daughter has been appointed and you can’t navigate the cost and logistics, that’s OKAY!!! The link in the chain for the class of 2027 will be present. And any mom or dad present will scoop up and love on your kiddo. This is where “your Mid is my Mid” becomes reality.
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I may be mistaken, but doesn't the USAFA (USMA, too?) do just a drop off on I-Doc day, then the parents see them again at parents' weekend? I would much prefer that for the USNA. Makes it much more simpler.
 
Regarding the PTR email it does not have time for I Day.

You will receive separate correspondence at a later date with your Permit to Report letter, which will have the exact day and time at which you shall report.
 
Alchemist said:
I may be mistaken, but doesn't the USAFA (USMA, too?) do just a drop off on I-Doc day, then the parents see them again at parents' weekend? I would much prefer that for the USNA. Makes it much more simpler.
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Appointees can simply present themselves on Induction Day, parent-free, with required items, at the appointed place and time.

That is the way it was done for decades. DH took the train from Philly to Baltimore and a taxi to Gate 1. Said goodbye to his family very early that morning at the train station and didn’t see them again until winter break. There was no expectation of family accompanying him. There was no PPW and Thanksgiving leave period. First phone call was at the start of the academic year. They also walked to class, uphill both ways! 😉

The full day of parent-centric activities and public oath-taking evolved as parenting styles have changed to more involvement and longer attachments as active parents.

The only things that are required on Induction Day are signing required papers, getting issued stuff, haircuts as needed, room assignment and being given the oath by a qualified person.

I think each family can handle this day as they wish, from full immersion to skipping it completely. I enjoy seeing the cultural differences among the SAs as they handle various elements of the process.
 
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