Pro's / Con's

I used to think the same thing, but now i have a lot more experience in all of it. I spent a weekend with one of my best friends going to college, and i got to experience 'normal college life.' it was a lot more fun and tons more easy than this place. I sat in on a few of her classes and i really was able to appreciate the academics offered here at the Academy, the curriculum as well as teachers. They have no where near as much homework as us, yes they have to work, but with our military training and briefings, working out, and extra homework, they have a lot more down time than cadets. When i got back here to the Academy, i was able to appreciate everything a lot more. I was able to understand the point of 4* life a lot more than before, and it wasn't as much of a burden seeing it from the other side. I was able to notice all the leadership and responsibility placed on us, even as 4* and how much more we have grown up since high school graduation only 8 months ago. Yes, i do also see how much more this place sucks :shake: but I wouldn't trade it for anything. it would be nice to have some more of the 'normal' life-style, but then you never know if by changing it, you will like it any more. THere are plenty of things that are taken for granted here. as much as we joke around about Mitch's, at normal college, you may only eat 2 meals over the weekend...and that is usually poptarts and ramen noodles. Being at the Academy, we know that we are going to be fed 3 times a day, even if it doesn't always taste the best.:wink: Also, we don't have to clean the hallways. we have Good will people come and clean up after our messes. Yeah, 4* take out the trash once a day, but it's not really that big of a deal. Normal college people have to pay to have fun. My squad is restricted this weekend, so we painted a mural for pararescue. It is awesome! and it was a lot of fun to do! painting on walls! also, we have the Alley, cheap bowling, squadron tv rooms, we're allowed to do spirit missions, that anywhere else would probably be considered vandelism or distruction of public property. Yeah, you can't watch tv or movies or anything like that, but there are ways to get arond those rules. since we painted our mural, we got permission to watch Band of Brothers. there are also sponsor family houses, so even though we are 'adults' we still have parents to look after us. and they are amazing people.

So, having a small experience of 'normal college' i still think this is a great place. it's definitly the right place for me. and you can always brag about all the rules you have to follow and it's fun to see people's reactions to what we have to do!
 
Pima said:
How can you be 20? You must be at least 17 to enter for eligibilty
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2011's Mom said:
Unless I am doing my math wrong, technically it's possible ... you must be 17 by July 1st of your entering year. Theoretically, if you turn 17 on June 20th (for example) then you would graduate at age 20 (assuming graduation remains end of May).
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Yes, it is possible. The example demonstrates how.
 
I will be 21 at graduation, but I'll be 22 three days later. ;) lol

My friend skiing with me this weekend won't turn 22 until December after we graduate.
 
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.......Back on point...CC when are you going to finally post a sticky thread of everything you need to know, but was afraid to ask? We all nominated you for that several weeks ago...hop to it!:shake:
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Pima; ask Bullet, and you'll find that we learned real well how to "Delegate Authority". Are you volunteering? :angel: Mike.....
 
Ouch, CC! You KNOW how it works in the typical home. I may have been able to delegate lower in my office when I was active duty, but I'm usually at the bottom of the totem pole at the Pima-and-Bullet house! :biggrin:

Oh, well. Possibley another assignment I may be "volunt-told" to accomplish, or something to add to the Honey-Do list. It happens....:thumbdown:
 
Hee Hee Hee. So true bullet. But Pima is my peer, not my commanding spouse. But she IS YOUR commanding spouse, so i don't recommend you doing the delegating thing. LOL!!! But Pima; there's a lot of love in the air. You know that. mike.....
 
Good one, CC! As a new butter-bar many years ago I recall one of the first things one had to learn was the difference between delegation and "upward delegation." The first time any young second looie asked some savvy E-6 or grizzled E-9 to do something and found himself suddenly doing it instead, is when that "learning" begins!
 
To keep this off track even more.

Mike, you know I would never delegate it to Bullet, because he likes to be the comedian too much, I think we can come to a very good understanding on who should be responsible for writing the thread...LUIGI :biggrin: We love you Luigi, you are a valuable asset and so knowledgeable

Raptor's story reminded me of when Bullet pinned on his rr tracks...his flight commander looked at him and said you know what this means? No sir what? Sh*t can't fall off anymore, it's now caught:eek: I remember after he was a capt at the O'Club one friday night and the guys were hanging and talking about FNGs...they always would say Silly Lt XXX...don't you know... (off of the Mikey eats anything Life cereal commercial..gee I am old, these kids probably don't even know who the heck Mikey is)
 
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I remember being at CNA "Camp New Amsterdam"; AKA Soesterberg AB, Netherlands. Music videos were becoming real popular (early 80's). Michael Jackson and Paul McCartney were singing a song together. Some nice new Butter Bar 22 year old said; "Didn't Paul McCartney use to sing in ANOTHER band?" "Oh yea, I remember now. WINGS". Boy did I feel old that day.

So; that brings us back on topic. ANOTHER PRO of the Air Force. You'll have PLENTY of stories to live on for the rest of your life.
 
CON...walk into the club with cranium covering
CON...say the word h**d,,,that thing on top of you shoulders and see what happens
CON...BEING AN FNG
CON...Buying a bottle of Weed b/c Betty talked to you
CON...BUYING the crew chief a case of beer b/c you left something in the cockpit
CON...staying in the dumpiest hotel in Vegas
CON...Reading Crud rules
CON...Dining In/Dining Out...Gotta hate the grog...always take the alcohol one, the non-alcohol is mean (every condiment you could ever think of)

PRO...TDY to VEGAS
PRO...Promotion night at the club, or a retirement party like Bullets'...(Club bill was 1st pay period of the month)
PRO...FNG's...they are just so fun to watch!
PRO...Naming ceremonies
PRO...The crew chief finding your wedding ring that you lost in the cockpit! YES, Bullet did lose his (ejection seat guys remove their rings and put them in the flight suit...better to lose the ring than the finger:wink:)
PRO...CRUD...and watching someone reading the rules.
PRO...DINING OUT and DINING INS...GOTTA love MR/MS. Vice

Funniest thing is watching an FNG say h**d, deceased insect, sock check, or another word for container...they always try to test the old guys, and yet, all you see is some young guy always losing. This is true for Crud...ask somebody on here, I bet he never expected Bullet to take out those younguns. I will say this about that person, he is good...he actually lived longer than the FNGS,...in the end of the night they wanted to know who that kid was. For all of you who aaspire to be a fighter pilot, you should make a crud club. Social interaction also helps coming up the ranks.
 
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I guess I'm gonna have to brush up on my pilot lingo. I understood about 50% of that post.
 
I'd say I got 95% of the lingo! lol! Fantastic list! Can't wait to be the FNG. Then I'll count the days till I'm not the FNG. LMAO (superbowl commercial here!). :)
 
When you get to the AFA, they will enlighten you on the terminology...if you're smart pm Bullet, because 4 digs are basically FNG's...isn't that right hornet, raimius, cad?

BCT does not end at the AFA, it doesn't end at UPT, or FTU, or your 1st operational assignment, it ends when you are the JCS. DO you know what they call Majors at the Pentagon? Coffee pogey! All in fun here...nobody start shooting missiles at me!

BTW CRUD is the best game that was ever created...take rugby and place it around a snooker table, the most important thing is to never hit the ref's drink :eek:
Upper body strength will be an asset :rolleyes:
If you thought you needed to brush up on lingo for that last post, the lingo for the game of crud will make your head spin.(no six, double kiss, baffoonery, and others). Women typically win when playing against guys due to 2 reasons ( lower sense of gravity ---we knock you out at your knees, and the guys are always gentlemen so they don't hit us as hard)

Here are the rules, but they leave out alot of the lingo.
http://www.aewa.org/Library/crud2.html

Hornet what did you not get?
 
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Haha, I learned a lot of the terminology from a book I just read. I knew what Crud is, and FNGs, as well as the O'Club.
 
By the way; even with Pima's CON/PRO list; everything is still based on a person's perception. I.e. I LOVE WEED (Jeremiah). So ANY REASON for buying it is a good reason. (But I do KNOW/UNDERSTAND the tradition - and I toast whenever I can). And I pray that all future toasts are "in memory of" and never because of a NEW incident.
 
Mike you were in way toooo long if you love weed. I got in trouble one time for serving it because I didn't know you are suppose to keep it frozen.:frown:

I agree the toasts are always better for the memory and not for adding another one to the list
 
Pima, I just read your link w/ the Cruc instructions. Turns out I play that all the time (except w/o the alcohol and w/ a different name). Best game ever!

I love the instruction's disclaimer: "There is a great possibility that people may be injured during the game, even if playing gentlemans rules. Therefore, please exercise the most care when playing it." Very true.
 
There is nothing funnier to watch than grown adults play this game. As a woman, it was my post-baby exercise, of course until I threw out my back by being tossed a little too far:rolleyes: and I lost a life too!:thumbdown: I play now on only special occassions.

Every O'Club has the rules posted, but don't get caught reading them...total NO NO and it will cost you (have to buy a drink for whoever catches you)
 
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