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- Those ARE local schools for us, and both are battalion level (meaning no travel to PT in the AM)... Our concern is that financially speaking, it would be less expensive to send two qualified cadets to less expensive colleges than one possibly more qualified cadet (higher on order of medit list) to a much more expensive school. Previously they maxed the 4 yr at $20K do do they now have the same internal rule that benefits applicants to lower tuition schools that provide good but not the recognized "best" institutions? We are talking about two of the most distinguished Engineering colleges in America. Is it a money decision as well for the Board?
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- Those ARE local schools for us, and both are battalion level (meaning no travel to PT in the AM)... Our concern is that financially speaking, it would be less expensive to send two qualified cadets to less expensive colleges than one possibly more qualified cadet (higher on order of medit list) to a much more expensive school. Previously they maxed the 4 yr at $20K do do they now have the same internal rule that benefits applicants to lower tuition schools that provide good but not the recognized "best" institutions? We are talking about two of the most distinguished Engineering colleges in America. Is it a money decision as well for the Board?
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My DD was accepted at both his West coast choices, UCLA & USC, we have been patiently waiting (and I have been lurking on this forum since it was created) but we are concerned about timing. It seems most of you are from the Midwest, I was wondering if it made any difference whether your choices were more expensive or smaller institutions, or whether choosing battalion level campuses made any difference either?
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Congrats to your DS (dear son) on gaining acceptance to two very selective CA schools. Did he get his ROTC application in before the first or second board? If not, and he's only being reviewed by the 3rd board, my understanding is that -- (1) depending on how many candidates already accepted or were awarded scholarships to those two schools will influence whether your DS can receive one at UCLA/USC, and (2) the 3rd board generally gives out fewer 4 yr and more 3 yr scholarships based on $$ left over after the first two boards. The first board gives out more 4 yr scholarships to up to 3 schools on a candidates application list. By the third board, a scholarship winner may only receive an offer to 1 or 2 schools, and not necessarily the first ones on his list. (So for those getting ready to apply for the next scholarship cycle, it's in your best interest to get your application done in time for the 1st board.)
Good luck to your DS as well as everyone else still waiting for results!
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No. Some of the most competitive candidates going before boards 1 & 2 were those going private engineering schools like Rose Hulman....and that is a very prestigeous school for STEM disciplines and VERY expensive. The draw there though is while ROTC's $35K max per annum doesn't come close to cover the full cost of tuition, Rose Hulman (and several similiar schools) will cover the rest of the cost for scholarship cadets.
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Where did you find that Army ROTC caps costs at $35,000 annually for private colleges? That is the first time I have ever heard of that for national winners, and certainly important to know. Thanks.
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Where did you find that Army ROTC caps costs at $35,000 annually for private colleges? That is the first time I have ever heard of that for national winners, and certainly important to know. Thanks.
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I have never heard of a cap for AROTC Scholarships, unless something has recently changed I do not believe there is a cap. No cadet with a scholarship to say, Stanford, MIT, or other such higher priced schools have ever mentioned a cap or the need to make up any difference.
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while ROTC's $35K max per annum doesn't come close to cover the full cost of tuition
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Not true. There is no cap. Covering $48,093 for my D.S.
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I have never heard of a cap for AROTC Scholarships, unless something has recently changed I do not believe there is a cap. No cadet with a scholarship to say, Stanford, MIT, or other such higher priced schools have ever mentioned a cap or the need to make up any difference.
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DS's AROTC scholarship has covered his $47,000+/per year tuition.
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I have never heard of a cap for AROTC Scholarships, unless something has recently changed I do not believe there is a cap. No cadet with a scholarship to say, Stanford, MIT, or other such higher priced schools have ever mentioned a cap or the need to make up any difference.
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that's why you see "valued up to $35K" HOWEVER many schools do cover the rest with additional grants/scholarships. We had that discussion with the PMS at the school my daughter interviewed. It's not a 100% golden ticket.
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It seems that the information varies depending on who you ask. We verified with the Army adjutant at USC that is is FULL coverage, but that still doesn't mean that the selection committee doesn't take cost into account when making their decision. As far as timing goes, his AI told him that it didn't matter which board he was boarded by because qualification and the OML didn't change from board to board, but many of you say differently.
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that's why you see "valued up to $35K" HOWEVER many schools do cover the rest with additional grants/scholarships. We had that discussion with the PMS at the school my daughter interviewed. It's not a 100% golden ticket.
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I think the PMS may be mistaken about the 35K. The official description for the Scholarship states Full Tuition, there is no limit listed or mentioned. When the tuition statements come from the university it shows a third party transfer for the entire tuition balance, there is not a cut off at 35K. That's the way the statements have been for the 7 years we have had sons in AROTC with scholarships. Whether some schools lower their tuition cost to the Army would be something that is dependent on the school.
Just curious, where did you see "valued up to 35K"
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It seems that the information varies depending on who you ask. We verified with the Army adjutant at USC that is is FULL coverage, but that still doesn't mean that the selection committee doesn't take cost into account when making their decision. As far as timing goes, his AI told him that it didn't matter which board he was boarded by because qualification and the OML didn't change from board to board, but many of you say differently.
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From what I know from this forum, the boards should all rate applicants on the same grounds, and no matter what board you are rated at, you will get the same OML score. But after the boards the threshold for scholarship awardees changes, which the third round typically being the lowest threshold. At the same time, first board awardees are typically receiving higher valued scholarships, (this year they were all 4 year,) whereas the later ones had 3 year AD as well as 4 year.
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From what I know from this forum, the boards should all rate applicants on the same grounds, and no matter what board you are rated at, you will get the same OML score. But after the boards the threshold for scholarship awardees changes, which the third round typically being the lowest threshold. At the same time, first board awardees are typically receiving higher valued scholarships, (this year they were all 4 year,) whereas the later ones had 3 year AD as well as 4 year.
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Just remember, while an applicants score will remain the same for each board, their position on the OML could change for each board.
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If an applicant does not receive an offer from the first board and they are ranked say 100 on the list of those remaining, by the time the next board comes along there will be many more new applicants. These applicants will be scored and placed on the new OML. The cadet that was at 100 may now be farther down the list depending on the scores of the newer applicants. The same will happen after the second board. By the time the third board rolls around everyone is set on the final OML.
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that's why you see "valued up to $35K" HOWEVER many schools do cover the rest with additional grants/scholarships. We had that discussion with the PMS at the school my daughter interviewed. It's not a 100% golden ticket.
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Again, not correct. I have the scholarship statement from my DS school, and the Army is paying $48,093 this year.
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