SCOTUS Affirmative Action decision could affect Service Academy and ROTC

Curious what the socially acceptable time limit is these days for a people group to recover spiritually/emotionally/economically from slavery, rape and brutality.
 
Supersix00 said:
Curious what the socially acceptable time limit is these days for a people group to recover spiritually/emotionally/economically from slavery, rape and brutality.
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I wonder what percentage of African Americans today were descendants of slaves?

I wonder what percentage of whites were descendants of slave owners?

I wonder what percentage of whites were descendants of men who fought with their lives against slavery?

I wonder if there are any other reasons why people groups have suffered spiritually/emotionally/economically but slavery is being blamed?
 
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Snyder’s first Big acquisition after he bought the team in ~’99 was Jeff George for the 2000/2001 season …. George was released the prior season from the Minnesota Vikings

Here’s an excerpt on Wiki of George’s short stay in Washington …

“ … George clashed with Schottenheimer over the offense, though the coach promised to work George through any problems he might have with the scheme. Washington released George after a 37–0 Monday Night loss to the Green Bay Packers, in which George had a 34.6 passer rating, the worst in the first two weeks of the 2001 season. The Redskins were 0–2, having been outscored 67–3. George was given 24 hours to remove his personal items from the Redskins' facilities before they were discarded … “
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Affirmative action is the textbook definition of racism. It gives preferential treatment to a person based on their race. Base acceptance on ability and aptitude. It's insulting to minorities to think that they don't have equal opportunity and need a boost to be considered equally qualified.
 
A1Janitor said:
On the flip side, it also bothers me that a minority who earned it is thought to not have earned it because of their skin color.
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MidCakePa said:
This! Again and again and again!
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The only reason people would think things like that is because of affirmative action. Take away affirmative action, what basis would someone have to make this comment? If a candidate/applicant for any school was judged based on their merit (whether academic, leadership, or social/volunteer) alone, nobody could argue they did not earn it. Instead, we undermine the hard work of minorities by giving them "extra points" for the color of their skin.

I full agree that there are underserved communities which make it harder for applicants to be competitive. However, affirmative action DOES NOT fix this problem. It merely allows the bar to be lower for these applicants. Instead, we should be spending our time, money, and effort arguing about ways to better these communities/schools.
 
Peter2025 said:
The only reason people would think things like that is because of affirmative action. Take away affirmative action, what basis would someone have to make this comment? If a candidate/applicant for any school was judged based on their merit (whether academic, leadership, or social/volunteer) alone, nobody could argue they did not earn it. Instead, we undermine the hard work of minorities by giving them "extra points" for the color of their skin.

I fully agree that there are underserved communities which make it harder for applicants to be competitive. However, affirmative action DOES NOT fix this problem. It merely allows the bar to be lower for these applicants. Instead, we should be spending our time, money, and effort arguing about ways to better these communities/schools.
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EDIT: fully* :bang:
 
flieger83 said:
Hmm...interesting...

Okay...time to query RRS again.
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Well, okay then...

I just got re-educated...

It appears that admissions at USAFA HAS been giving some credit for “legacy” candidates recently; the amount depends on the admissions team.
 
Ending legacy preferences seems like a no brainer to me too at least for the private universities—I can maybe see the argument for academies if it really is true that they are more likely to graduate. Although I also wonder how often the opposite happens, as I’ve heard of some people attending academies to please their alumni parent and hating it.

Academy admissions are also interesting because of the focus on geographic diversity. It always seemed weird to me that candidates could be more or less competitive depending on the district they are applying from. But that’s just how it goes with the nomination system. Side note, does anyone know the history of why congressional nominations for admission were established? Was it perhaps as way to keep the officer corps balanced between men from the north and south during the antebellum period?
 
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