Tobacco use

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  1. HunchoJack

    HunchoJack New Member

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    I'm sure its out there, but I couldn't find any specifics on what the academy thinks of students smoking. I'm applying to the merchant marine academy this year and I use a juul and smoke cigars about once a month and have dipped maybe 5 times. I was just wondering what their policy is on this? I'm 18 right now too, so I don't know if it makes a difference to them whether you're underage or not because in my state its legal to consume tobacco products if you're under 18.
     
  2. kinnem

    kinnem Moderator 5-Year Member

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    Is it legal for minors to possess tobacco products in your state? Many states have no restriction on consumption for minors, but most of those make it illegal for a minor to possess tobacco products. How one uses tobacco products without being in possession of them is beyond me, but there are stranger things in the world of legalese.
     
  3. Capt MJ

    Capt MJ 10-Year Member

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    These policies are found in Midshipman Regulations. See the link below - it may not be the most current, but I doubt the policy has changed. It doesn’t specifically address juuling, pre-dates that particular variation on e-cigs as a tobacco-less nicotine delivery device.

    With luck, a current mid or recent grad will post.

    USMMA at a minimum must follow Federal regulations on smoking of tobacco products - not inside and only in designated areas.

    I’ll be interested to know if juuling is permitted during the initial summer training. Going without could be a challenge for someone who is accustomed to the nicotine usage.


    https://www.usmma.edu/sites/usmma.edu/files/docs/Midshipman Regulations - 16 May 2011.pdf

    Given the increasing rates of juuling among teens, I’ve educated myself on what the current medical opinion is on this trend. I hope you have too, and have a care for your health.
     
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  4. kpmom2013

    kpmom2013 5-Year Member

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    My DD is a current mid at USMMA and my DS is a 2013 graduate. Unfortunately, tobacco use of all kinds is common among mids both on campus and at sea. It is supposed to be in designated areas only, but it is a rule that is often violated without consequences.
     
  5. Jmoney457

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    Theoretically, the use of tobacco is against the plebe standards of conduct. But you can easily use tobacco as a plebe, especially if its a juul, without getting caught. It's also easy to dip without getting caught. So you can really do either. A lot of people smoke cigars, and the academy usually doesn't care about tobacco. At sea, a large percentage of people smoke or vape.
     
  6. cmakin

    cmakin 5-Year Member

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    I started smoking during Sea Year. At the time cigarettes were available in any slop chest at a huge discount (not taxed). They also were as good as cash to use ashore. That said, I haven't smoked for way over 10 years now. When I was sailing I was a three pack a day smoker. . . with lots of caffeine. . . . tugs will do that to an engineer. . .
     
  7. Jmoney457

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    Not much changed I guess. Lit my first cig out in the middle of the ocean. The cig vending machines in Japan didn't help either. Quit again back in the states. Not to mention bribing port officials and workers with cigs. Coffee and cigs are a way of life out there. I cant imagine smoking three packs in a day though, although I know guys out there who did that.
     
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  8. cmakin

    cmakin 5-Year Member

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    Like I said, ocean tugs will do that. . . .being a CE and standing a watch. . .long hours, small ER crew (with one company, I was the only one in the engineering staff onboard). . . frankly, I don't know how I did it either. Wasn't even that hard to quit once I put my mind to it, but ashore, I was down to less that a pack a day.