You are right...I forgot they do send out more offers than they have spots for because of the yield. I just did a quick Google search. For 2020 they offered 2,170 for 1700 spots. I would assume it would be close to the same this year but even if it is slightly more, you are looking at about 5%. Either way, it is highly competitive! I thought of it this way, there were about 42,000 people (around 8,000 applied ED) who logged in to Duke's admission site last night at 1900hrs (Eastern time) and at least 40,000 had rejection letters. I will say that they were very nicely written and encouraging
. No big deal for DS. That was a Hail Marry that he didn't apply to until their very last day to submit applications. The only reason he even threw it in there is because they have 1 of only 3 of the NROTC programs here in NC and he had included them on his NROTC applications as one of his 5 schools. He has been accepted to the other two, UNC and NC State. He is still waiting on a decision from NROTC. He has also been admitted to the Engineering program at East Carolina University and offered the Commander's AFROTC scholarship there. Pretty strong back-up plan because his goals are first and foremost to serve as an officer in the military and second to fly. He is a faith filled young man who works extremely hard to achieve his goals (as all the DSs and DDs do on this site). I have always taught him to work like everything depends on him and pray like everything depends on God! He knows that everything will work out as it is meant to be.
Teacher at a flagship state university here. The applicant explosion this year is outrageous. Many better-known state colleges up double-digit percentages. Ivies and Stanford up 40% or more. All driven by test-optional and the general ambiguity of how things will shake out post-pandemic. Many students are hedging their bets — or shooting the moon.
we are seeing the same thing with law school for my oldest - the law school apps are up huge according to the law schools! but all the law schools required the LSAT so not exactly sure what is going on there.....
Exactly. It has been my outlet, as well. Keeps me from nagging my DS that is two thousand miles away from me.Just wanna say thanks to everyone on here...SAF has been my sanity as I wait with my DS who doesn't even know I'm on here. LOL! It's been a wonderful outlet for me to stalk the threads.
I would guess that because of the nomination requirement, the number of complete applications would not increase as much as for civilian schools.
I think many students applied to more schools than they would have if they had been able to visit schools over spring break and summer last year. I know this was the case with my DS. He’s not yet finalized his plan B school among three very good options, none of which he’s been able to visit. Hoping for an appointment before May 1, or he’s going to have to pick one! (He’s LOA and under medical waiver review, so we have no idea when he’ll know for certain.) We may have to make some trips in late April... It’s getting hard to be patient!
No begging for Notre Dame or USC.. they had HUGE applicant numbers this year..
Same for DS - LOA and under waiver review. USNA still plan A. So just waiting. We went ahead and urged him to work on finalizing plan B. Ironically, he picked the plan B he hasn't completely visited - Boston University, NROTC - but he loves Boston and didn't get into Georgetown, which was originally plan B. Plans C, D, and E were George Washington University NROTC, Purdue NROTC, OSU NROTC, and Northeastern (no NROTC offered). We'll probably put down deposit and start really planning in the next week. Maybe then Murphy's Law will kick in and we'll hear back about waivers!
Yes...they definitely belong in the category of competitive, prestigious schools that I mentioned. From what I hear all of those have double digit increases. From what @MidCakePa said, many of those schools have seen applications increase 40% or more. This has to be unprecedented. Good luck to your DS or DD!
@Z_NavyMom you are right about the numbers that are 3Q with a Nom. That can't change a whole lot as there are only so many noms to go around. What I was looking for was the total number who actually submitted applications to the individual Service Academies. For instance, from what I have seen online, the number of applicants to the Naval Academy averages around 15,000. I saw where one year somewhere around 2008 - 2010 there were nearly 20,000 applicants to the Naval Academy. I would think that would relevant because the more applicants to the service academy then the more applicants for nominations. That would tend to make competition for nominations more competitive and once nominations were given, then the slates themselves would tend to be more competitive.
Your son will love W&L!!! But things need to get back to normal there. It’s been a tough year.
The ethical dilemma is real. Did your DS1 talk to the NROTC officer at Cornell? My DS spoke to his AROTC officer at his top school and we were then more comfortable with our plan.
