From reading the information it appears that 80% of the file is based objective criteria resulting in a Weighted Composite Score. Then there is a subjective 20% criteria that includes the ALO rec, other recommendations and the CFA. My question is the WCS score that folks refer to here...Is the the objective Weighted Composite Score or the overall rating that includes the 20% subjective?
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When all is said and done, and EVERYTHING about your application is scored, you will then have the WCS. If you can imagine what could possibly scored, it is. Your WCS is everything. Your academics, act/sat, essays, cfa, interview, recommendations, etc... When you have your WCS, there is nothing else that needs to be included. It's all the objective and subjective facets of your application. Hope this explains it. best of luck. mike....
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Mike is correct EVERYTHING goes into the score to give you a WCS, and that includes your ALO recommendation or your CFA to give you 100% for the WCS.
Look at it this way, the AFA does not make you meet with an ALO or do the CFA for grins and giggles, they do it because they want the perspective of the Whole Candidate and score them that way.
Maybe terms have changed over the past few yrs, but I never heard that the WCS stood for Weighted Composite Score before; I always knew it as Whole Candidate Score, and that would explain why the 20% is a part of the scoring system.
Look at it this way, the AFA does not make you meet with an ALO or do the CFA for grins and giggles, they do it because they want the perspective of the Whole Candidate and score them that way.
Maybe terms have changed over the past few yrs, but I never heard that the WCS stood for Weighted Composite Score before; I always knew it as Whole Candidate Score, and that would explain why the 20% is a part of the scoring system.
Thanks. My assumption was that the "WCS" mentioned for the MOC slates and NWL was the "score" after totalling the 80% Weighted Composite Score and the subjective 20% Selection Panel totals. My confusion was the WCS could be Weighted Composite Score or Whole Candidate Score. So the WCS is 80% of the WCS! Like sorting through granularity, fidelity, and clarity in increasing one's situational awareness during a ppt brief! Seriously, thanks. The information provided is very good in trying to understand this process.
I think I must be just dense, but I'm still confused. Just today, my son's admissions counselor told him that he had a very high "composite" score (is that the WCS?), and that next week the final boards began. So will the board next week be adding to his composite score to get his Whole Candidate Score? Or will they just be matching Congressional and Senator nominations to those candidates in their districts/states with the highest composite scores to equal an appt? Sorry, after reading these forums you would think I would have a better handle on this, but sometimes people do use different terminology/acronyms/etc. and it can be hard to keep it all straight! Thanks.
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WCS unless thing have changed = Whole Candidate Score.
HUH? Unless things have changed drastically the final board will NOT meet until sometime in March, since AFA board does not close until after Feb.
Again, we are 3 yrs out of the loop so maybe they are now closing in Jan.
When you say admissions counselor, who exactly is that? Is it the AFA regional or the ALO?
MOCs use to have until Jan 31st to submit their slate, has that change? If it hasn't than next week can not be a drop dead for boards.
Quick answer highest score on the slat for each MOC wins!
However, use katamonk as an example, she has a principal, yet needs to re-take the CFA, that slate is in flux until she re-submits her CFA. Principal nom trumps highest WCS.
HUH? Unless things have changed drastically the final board will NOT meet until sometime in March, since AFA board does not close until after Feb.
Again, we are 3 yrs out of the loop so maybe they are now closing in Jan.
When you say admissions counselor, who exactly is that? Is it the AFA regional or the ALO?
MOCs use to have until Jan 31st to submit their slate, has that change? If it hasn't than next week can not be a drop dead for boards.
Quick answer highest score on the slat for each MOC wins!
However, use katamonk as an example, she has a principal, yet needs to re-take the CFA, that slate is in flux until she re-submits her CFA. Principal nom trumps highest WCS.
Pima, I looked up timelines, and MOC slates do have to be in Jan. 31 and the AFA requires application files to be complete Feb. 15. I'm just passing along what my son's admissions counselor (from the AFA--NOT his ALO) told him today. Is it possible if all candidates' files from our MOC's slates (son has 2 noms,competitive--no principal named) were complete and all had WCS's they would go ahead and start assigning highest scoring candidates to those MOC's? I wish I could talk to the admissions counselor and nail down some of these questionable statements, but I think my son needs to handle any of those discussions. He doesn't want to tick off his counselor by continually saying "But what about . . ." etc. so I don't think he's pushed for answers to the degree I would. I think he was just happy to hear he has a very high "composite" score, whatever his counselor meant. I hope his counselor meant his WCS and that it will lead to an appt., whether or not he has to wait until March. Which is what we'll just continue to do!
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The last board does NOT meet in January.
Deadline for candidate applications, etc., is 15 FEB 2011. Members of congress have a 31 JAN 2011 deadline for nominations.
Rest assured...USAFA will be selecting candidates for appointment into April at the least.
Steve
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Deadline for candidate applications, etc., is 15 FEB 2011. Members of congress have a 31 JAN 2011 deadline for nominations.
Rest assured...USAFA will be selecting candidates for appointment into April at the least.
Steve
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He should handle all of those discussions and now is the time to remove yourself! You can't! And you shouldn't be involved! If he truly wants it and if you want him to have the best chance of success at the AFA remove your ARSE now. Tell him, this is your life and at some point I have to cut the apron strings, I am cutting 1 of them now so you can step up. Beauty is you still have the 2nd apron string!
That is hard to read, but it is the truth. Come July when he gets on the bus, it is all him! You will not be there to catch him.
Everything I have written is cliche, but cliches exist for a reason...there is truth in them!
It is hard to let our children go, trust me I know that...been there, done that and got the tee shirt 3 yrs ago!
I know where you are at as a parent, but I cannot stress hard enough WALK AWAY! I was like you, "please someone give me a sign"! I wasted time wrapping myself up in what others had to say and losing time just being there for our DS. 3 yrs later I am now wishing that I had that time back because in 1 yr from now it will be our last of lasts..last Thanksgiving, last Christmas, last spring break. Don't be me...if he gets the AFA GREAT, if he doesn't GREAT TOO! Fate is fate, trust in that!
Spend this time planning his prom, his graduation party, ordering Pizza in and hearing his friends shouting from his room as they play XBox or PS3 while you scream to him QUIET DOWN. You will miss it, and if you do not heed my advice you will be like me and regret that you didn't heed it...other posters gave me the same advice, when our DS called the ball in Feb., I was able to grasp what they were saying.
TRUST ME time travels too fast!
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Quote from Pima:
"He should handle all of those discussions and now is the time to remove yourself! You can't! And you shouldn't be involved! If he truly wants it and if you want him to have the best chance of success at the AFA remove your ARSE now."
Exactly why I said I wanted him to handle it. I have not spoken to his counselor since this whole process has begun, so I think I'm doing OK with letting him go.
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"The last board does NOT meet in January."
If you read my other post, I said the boards "began" in January according to what my son's AFA counselor told him. I didn't say she told him they "finished" in January--we're aware this process will go on into March/April.
"He should handle all of those discussions and now is the time to remove yourself! You can't! And you shouldn't be involved! If he truly wants it and if you want him to have the best chance of success at the AFA remove your ARSE now."
Exactly why I said I wanted him to handle it. I have not spoken to his counselor since this whole process has begun, so I think I'm doing OK with letting him go.
Quote from Flieger83:
"The last board does NOT meet in January."
If you read my other post, I said the boards "began" in January according to what my son's AFA counselor told him. I didn't say she told him they "finished" in January--we're aware this process will go on into March/April.