njbaseball
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Does anyone know how competitive it is in the state of Alabama for a nomination?
Very good point. It really doesn't matter. First off with the primary nomination. For one to receive this nomination they normally have to be the best on the slate. One's environment usually defines one's competitiveness. Senators aside, which in most states, are extremely competitive, one, or at most, two nominations. The best of the best. You are competing only with your local peers so it is how you rank with them solely that is the determinant. Now, those who don't receive a primary nomination all go into the national pool where one's ranking nationally is the sole determining factor. How one ranks locally now no longer makes any difference at all. I would propose that, through a host of reasons, the more competitive the district the more competitive the candidate. In less "competitive" districts, only the primary candidate is considered. In many of the more "competitive" districts, up to as many as 10 are considered.Does it make a difference? If you live in Alabama, you apply to your two senators and your congressman. It's not like you can "forum shop" for an easier nomination, unless you somehow are a legal resident of two states at the same time.
First off with the primary nomination. For one to receive this nomination they normally have to be the best on the slate...
Now, those who don't receive a primary nomination all go into the national pool where one's ranking nationally is the sole determining factor....
For those candidates who may want to do further research on nominations, the correct term is PRINCIPAL nomination, not PRIMARY nomination.
Mongo said:Since we are discussing all encompassing nominations, both principal and competitive, I used the term 'primary, in lieu of a detailed explanination. I guess I could have used 'main' instead.
I don't think she was hateful at all. Just pointing out, correctly, I might add, that the competitiveness of a district is overrated.Thanks for all the info!
And Mihoser, you must have woke up on the wrong side of the bed. I was just asking a simple question. Got a little hatefull there.
Have a blessed day!!!
As I pointed out before, 'Principal' is not a proper term when referring to a competive as demonstrated in your link to the USNA catalog. I simply used "primary" but could have used any of another dozen terms. My post. My choice. Totally inconsequential. But again,thanks for allowing me to clarify it for you.
Mongo said:First off with the primary nomination. For one to receive this nomination they normally have to be the best on the slate.
njbaseball,
You asked a very legitimate question.
Folks, this is a forum for information about the service academies. Thus, if somebody has all the answers they're probably not going to post a question.
In the future, let's realize that and respond to questions accordingly.
Thank you for your time.
-TN
njbaseball...welcome to the world of serviceacademyforums.com! If you think that was nasty, I would get a tougher hide before checking out some of these threads! All the best to you as you pursue your nominations/appointment to USNA!!
Luigi59 said:a (10) - Each Senator, Representative, and Delegate in Congress,
including the Resident Commissioner from Puerto Rico, is entitled
to nominate 10 persons for each vacancy that is available
to him under this section. Nominees may be submitted
without ranking or with a principal candidate
and 9 ranked or unranked alternates. [/I]
Luigi,
You're a BGO - right?
I'm just curious ...
Memphis9849 said:Let's say the congressman/senator decides to rank the nominees from 1-to-10. I assume the #1 nominee is considered the "principal nominee" and, if qualified, must be appointed to fill the vacancy. Correct?
Memphis9849 said:What is the effect of the other nominees being ranked? It's been said that all non-principal nominees go into the national pool. Would the fact that they were ranked compel the academy to appoint them in the order they were ranked if, of course, the academy should decide to appoint any of them?
For example, after Nominee #1 gets his offer of appointment, let's say the academy really likes Nominee #6. Can they offer an appointment to Nominee #6 and bypass Nominees 2, 3 , 4, & 5?
If not, then they really are not in a "national poll" - not really.
If so, then the ranking has no practical effect.
I understand that it is extremely rare for the nominees to be ranked 1-to-10. Yet, I'm still curious.
Thanks!
Luigi59 said:All qualified nominees not selected for appointment through the congressional nomination process are considered qualified alternates for the purposes of selection by other noncongressional nominating or appointing authorities. (i.e national pool).