AROTC 2nd Board Waiters 2015

[StowieJ]

There is a lot of good basic and even expansive information on this forum, and good to see others in same situation. Do a search on DODMERB and try to narrow your issue; google it also may take you back to forum. BUT remember this is an anonymous forum, do not take as 100% accurate, or official, information you see. It can lead you to authoritative areas, or a contact who may be able to help. But down the road if a problem arises the exlanation that "I saw it on the service academy forum" is not going to be controlling. JMHO.

Well I don't think I would even bother with telling them about the little things. If they don't care about the time I got diarhea from indian food, i don't think they care about the time a kid sneezed on my face and I got sick.

But they don't do a super extensive physical? I just always assumed that they did.

 

[ca2midwestmom]

So would you write down the "time you were sick in ith grade with an infection that may or may not have been sinusitis" as having sinusitis? Or would you just assume it's no big deal and leave it out.

Did you go to the doctor, have an exam, get a prescription and was it noted in your chart that you have chronic sinusitis? If not, then don't list illnesses that you took care of with OTC meds or were one-time issues. What you need to mark on the DODMERB forms is anything that will show up on your medical charts -- did your doctor prescribe an inhaler? More than once? Before or after age 13? Have you had surgeries, hospitalizations, chronic illnesses with monthly prescriptions? If you've broken a bone, let's hope you went to the doctor. You don't need to list the occasional headache, unless you have recurring migraines and take a prescription. Again, make sure you go through the forms with your parents because that one illness you think you had as a 3 year old may have been exaggerated over the years. Did you really have chronic eczema or did you have poison oak? Also, there is a box on the form (at the end, if I recall) where you can explain in detail that one-time inhaler or other situation that may normally be a DQ/remedial.

 

[StowieJ]

Did you go to the doctor, have an exam, get a prescription and was it noted in your chart that you have chronic sinusitis? If not, then don't list illnesses that you took care of with OTC meds or were one-time issues. What you need to mark on the DODMERB forms is anything that will show up on your medical charts -- did your doctor prescribe an inhaler? More than once? Before or after age 13? Have you had surgeries, hospitalizations, chronic illnesses with monthly prescriptions? If you've broken a bone, let's hope you went to the doctor. You don't need to list the occasional headache, unless you have recurring migraines and take a prescription. Again, make sure you go through the forms with your parents because that one illness you think you had as a 3 year old may have been exaggerated over the years. Did you really have chronic eczema or did you have poison oak? Also, there is a box on the form (at the end, if I recall) where you can explain in detail that one-time inhaler or other situation that may normally be a DQ/remedial.

Thanks. I've talked to them, and to be honest my medical records are shady... moreso non-existant. I was never one to go to the doctor with problems, except the one time i thought i broke my wrist after a bohemeth of a 5th grader jumped on it. Ended up being no big deal. Most of the doctors I've ever been to don't exist anymore, and they're all overseas so the laws about keeping records are different.

So the cadre at schools of intent said if i were a 3 year ad scholarship cadet that they would just send me to a physician to have all the boxes checked for me.

They were like "don't worry about it if there's nothing wrong with you. 9 times out of 10 there's no problem."

I just don't want to be that 1 time out of 10.

 

[JS15000]

Is it typical to receive a call or e mail from schools of intent? I have been in frequent contact with the ROO at my top school and he said told me several times in the past that he thinks I'll get a national scholarship, but I haven't gotten a phone call or an e mail hinting at anything

 

[StowieJ]

Is it typical to receive a call or e mail from schools of intent? I have been in frequent contact with the ROO at my top school and he said told me several times in the past that he thinks I'll get a national scholarship, but I haven't gotten a phone call or an e mail hinting at anything

Like others have said, they may or may not. If they do, don't get your hopes to high, but if they don't, dont let it go to your head. Either way, good luck.

 

[Jcleppe]

Is it typical to receive a call or e mail from schools of intent? I have been in frequent contact with the ROO at my top school and he said told me several times in the past that he thinks I'll get a national scholarship, but I haven't gotten a phone call or an e mail hinting at anything

Don't worry at all if you haven't received a phone call or email, very few ROO's do this. Neither of my sons received any contact before they were awarded their scholarships.

 

[StowieJ]

Is it typical to receive a call or e mail from schools of intent? I have been in frequent contact with the ROO at my top school and he said told me several times in the past that he thinks I'll get a national scholarship, but I haven't gotten a phone call or an e mail hinting at anything

Can I ask what kind of credentials you have? Act/sat/ Gpa/ECs?

 

[Kylehag]

Hey everybody, been watching this post for awhile. I was admitted esrly decision to Cornell so resultant I only have contact with the liaison up at cornell rotc, but he said it should be sometime in the next few days. Also, for those of you worried about DODMERB, don't be. I've already gone through the process as I thought I was going to attend West Point, and it was quite simple. Most things are waverable. As long as you aren't currently violently Ill or asthmatic, you should be fine. Feel free to contact me about it if interested.

 

[JS15000]

Can I ask what kind of credentials you have? Act/sat/ Gpa/ECs?

Personal message?

 

[Jcleppe]

Also, for those of you worried about DODMERB, don't be. it was quite simple. Most things are waverable. As long as you aren't currently violently Ill or asthmatic, you should be fine. Feel free to contact me about it if interested.

Ahh, if only it were that simple.

For some it will go smoothly, for some there will be remedial requests, for some there will be waiver requests and a few months of waiting, others will be DQ'd some for things they never thought was an issue.

This is part of the process you have no control over, other then getting your medical records together when requested. It's hard not to but try and not stress over it. Just have your records handy if you need them, if you are required to give more information on the medical history form be very specific.

 

[StowieJ]

Well, I hate to say it, but if you think something is going to get you dq'd, and it's not a problem, why would you write it down? Is there anything stopping you from lying? It goes against everything i believe in to hide the truth about something, when you're essentially signing your life away to this "army family" but is there actually anything stopping cadets and pitential cadets from lying?

 

[Kylehag]

Well no, not really. You can lie now and risk it all later, or you can get it out in the open and let physicians evaluate you. They're smart people, if you don't think something is going to disqualify you, it probably won't because the people deciding those things are smart enough to know that a person that had asthma as a child does not necessarily have it as an adult. Trust in the system, don't start your career on unsteady ground.

 

[Pima]

Kylehag,

I understand you are new to the forum and posting, AND wanted to de-stress any candidate about DoDMERB, but I would caution you on stating that unless you are violently ill or asthmatic, dont worry about it.

I don't have enough fingers or toes, including my pets claws, from candidates that do get DQd, and never waived. Many times the candidates never even thought it would be an issue....allergic to shellfish/nuts. Found out they were color deficient at the exam...yes, there are kids that never realized they had a slight color deficiency until they took an exam. Kids that lost their parent at 14 and were prescribed for 18 months antidepressants. Multiple concussions from playing sports.
~ I could go on and on, but you get the point.

Not trying to attack, just saying that although the exam is very straight forward, a waiver is case by case. I and many posters here will tend to post cautionary when it comes to DoDMERB. Many, myself included will refer them to the DoDMERB forum and kp2001 or Maybry. Both of them are military docs.

Again, I get your desire was to assist and give emotional support, which I think is amazing, but remember there are lurkers like you were and as candidates it might be giving them a sense of false hope, which I don't think was your intention.

 

[Pima]

Cross posted with you kyle.
~I am leaving my last post up because I always think about lurkers when I post.

Any candidate that thinks about shading anything, my best advice would be is prior to commissioning you will go through an exit DoDMERB exam. What happens if in 4 years from now your medical paperwork does not match up? You placed 2 times Marijuana, but on the exit you place 5.
~~ There are posters here that actually shaded marijuana use and later on it came out. That can open you up to a new ball game.

It is a whole picture, and marijuana is asked. It is a DQ. It is waiverable, but it is impo a guarded secret regarding what is the DQ number and the waiver number.
~ One poster here placed 2 on their exam. Years later when they came up for POC they fessed up to 4. They were disenrolled, not because of the times they smoked it, but because they lied on their DoDMERB exam. They were handed a bill for 2 years scholarship.

 

[StowieJ]

On the note of drugs and alcohol, does the dodmerb ask about drinking? Over here where I am, the drinking age is 18. Having been 18 for some months now, I've had my fair share of drinks, with my parents on special occasions.

Does that seem like something I should put down on the form? Or something to not mention... It's not illicit, nor frowned upon for Americans to drink while overseas, but from a military perspective, how does it weigh in?

 

[SnowMom]

Are titles of threads able to be changed after they've been created? If they can, then maybe the OP (look Jcleppe I'm learning) of this thread can change it to "2nd Board Waiters" instead of "Winners" so that it's clearer? Just wondering. Hopefully we'll start seeing posts to the official "winners" thread soon though!

 

[Kylehag]

You're right, I should not opine about such issues that I am relatively inexperienced with. I apologize. Can we focus back on the issue of scholarships then and allow DODMERB to become a point of contention later? I feel that such will be more productive

 

[sheriff3]

Stowie, having a social drink(s) with your parents is not something you need to put on the paperwork. I know you and others are nervous for this part of the process. Do not overthink this!!! If a DR. or HOSPITAL DOCUMENTED it then it should be listed on the exam paperwork, if you, your parents or someone else diagnosed you with something then it didn't happen. To all canidates... you will not recall with complete accuracy your entire medical history, you were simply too young to remember stuff when you were 2 or 3, have you parents help you with the paperwork. I know you want to be independent but trust me when I say your parent's input on this form will help you down the road tremndously!

 

[StowieJ]

Stowie, having a social drink(s) with your parents is not something you need to put on the paperwork. I know you and others are nervous for this part of the process. Do not overthink this!!! If a DR. or HOSPITAL DOCUMENTED it then it should be listed on the exam paperwork, if you, your parents or someone else diagnosed you with something then it didn't happen. To all canidates... you will not recall with complete accuracy your entire medical history, you were simply too young to remember stuff when you were 2 or 3, have you parents help you with the paperwork. I know you want to be independent but trust me when I say your parent's input on this form will help you down the road tremndously!

Thanks! It's easy to get caught up in that part of the process. My thing is just that even if I don't get the scholarship I need to run around and try and get whatever scraps of a medical record I can get from my old doctors (as I'll be moving far away from here and never coming back, come college time.)

So I'm struggling to find out what I should do in the mean time, as to not shoot future me in the foot, some time down the road.

 

[kinnem]

Stowie, having a social drink(s) with your parents is not something you need to put on the paperwork. I know you and others are nervous for this part of the process. Do not overthink this!!! If a DR. or HOSPITAL DOCUMENTED it then it should be listed on the exam paperwork, if you, your parents or someone else diagnosed you with something then it didn't happen. To all canidates... you will not recall with complete accuracy your entire medical history, you were simply too young to remember stuff when you were 2 or 3, have you parents help you with the paperwork. I know you want to be independent but trust me when I say your parent's input on this form will help you down the road tremndously!

Well, it depends on how the question is worded. If the question is do you drink, then I would think the answer would be yes with the qualifier 'occasionally with my parents'. Trust me, it's not going to be a problem. Drinking under the age of 18 in the US is often legal if done with your parents (depending on the state). What they are really looking for is if someone has a potential drinking "problem". An answer of "a few scotches each day" might pique someone's curiosity.