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cprecour, my DS only recently had his interview, so it is too soon for a decision for him. I am wondering if he will make the board at the end of this month, his interviewer did not seem to know. Will his status change to indicate he has had his interview? Because right now it just says all forms have been submitted for review, he is an eligible candidate and someone will contact him soon for an interview.
 
My DD's said that initially. She submitted app and interviewed back in the fall. That's what her status said until Dec.15th. Then status changed to, "Your application met the board and you were not selected for a scholarship. However, based on your rank on the board, your application will be meeting the next board. You will be receiving written confirmation via mail within the next few weeks." It has said that since Dec. 15th. I only assume that since hers did not change yesterday she has been reboarded for the Feb. 25th board. I will confirm once the snail mail is received. From what I remember we received notice via the portal 1 day prior to the arrival of the snail mail. I am keeping my fingers crossed for the next board. Hang in there, I know the wait can be stressful.
 
cmcd said:
cprecour, my DS only recently had his interview, so it is too soon for a decision for him. I am wondering if he will make the board at the end of this month, his interviewer did not seem to know. Will his status change to indicate he has had his interview? Because right now it just says all forms have been submitted for review, he is an eligible candidate and someone will contact him soon for an interview.
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My DS's changed to: Your Air Force ROTC Scholarship interview has been received and processed. Your record will meet the next available selection board, which will be held around the last week of February. You can check back here to find the results of the board, which will be released around the middle of March. We will also mail you a notification letter explaining whether or not you have been offered a scholarship.
 
Pima (response to AFROTC paying for laptop)

The school website states:

Total 2012–13 Undergraduate Estimated Cost of Attendance: $59,470

In addition, all students are required to purchase a laptop for their course work, at an approximate cost of $1,550.

Also on the website:

All undergraduates are required to have a laptop computer that meets University specifications. ....... The laptop is specially configured for easy connection to the University network, and is fully supported by on-campus repair and consulting facilities. Accidental damage protection, in addition to the four-year warranty, completes the package.
 
Before I respond a few questions.

Do they have an AFROTC scholarship?
Is a Type 1 in hand today?

59K will not be a Type 7 4 yr. Type 2 will only pay up to 18K.

You are still going to be short, because I doubt Tuition and fees are under 18K.

The laptop issue is moot.
 
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Yes AFROTC Type 1 in hand. He is still hoping for USAFA or USNA appointment.
 
Type 1, Congrats, he is one of the 5%.

Now, the next question.

Does he need it to pay for college?

I.E. What if come next spring he says I love the school, hate AFROTC. How does that impact your family financially? Do you have the 60K, or does he stay to pay for the college

Please understand the answer will be tied to the 1550 laptop question.

No impact, than my response will be as candidates are announcing they got denied, your concern is paying for a laptop when you can afford a 59K yr school?

Impact, we can't swing 59k a yr. How will you pay without the scholarship? 1550 dollar laptop is the least of your worries.

Nobody here or anywhere knows what the impact of sequestration will be for ROTC. They are going to RIF, slow down ADAF promotions, cancel PME for ADAF, cut 203K flight hrs in the next yr for AD. Cannibalize jets, force retirees that served 20+ yrs to pay higher healthcare, ground the Thunderbirds. Sim instructors at UPT/FTU will be hit. Everything will be touched.

That is what the AF expects to do for sequestration. I highly doubt AFROTC won't change. It has to because the ADAF world will...the pipeline will close...he is going to be 17, 4 yrs of clogging in front of him.

I mean this with kindness, but I kind of feel like you are looking at the gift horse in the mouth. Maybe sequestration was not in your purview, but now it is. 5 yrs from now he will be ADAF. Would you want a cadet that can bolt out of AFROTC the 1st yr to get a laptop, if it means 1 less training sortie?

That is where we are at now.
 
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Rupewvu,

I received an AFROTC Type-7 scholarship last year.

My school also requires all students to have a laptop that meets certain specifications but AFROTC did NOT pay for that as it would not be put down as a fee, it's just an item that the college has decided is essential for a student to have since a large amount of classwork will be done online. Your DS will have to purchase one out of pocket if he does not already have one.

The scholarship took care of all tuition and fees EXCEPT my parking fee which was $700 for the year. I believe it was not covered because it was not an academic fee. You may or may not have a fee they choose to ignore, but you should be prepared.

Most likely your scholarship money(book money, tuition, etc) will be late. Be sure to talk to the person in your Bursar's office that deals with ROTC scholarships to make sure he/she knows to put the "ghost money" in your account so that your school does not charge you a late fee or cancel your classes. I know a guy in my class who had that happen to him, he had an issue with DoDMERB that took a little while to be resolved. By the time it was and he was good to go, the school had canceled his classes. No classes, no payment. No payment, no classes. It was sorted out in the end, but by the time it was the semester was half over, he'd had to pay out of pocket for tuition and fees and was waiting on reimbursement, and had already missed out on several weeks of stipend, which would not be repaid. If you have to, bug them until they put the "ghost money" in your account. It will sit there as a place holder until the AF gets around to paying it, which may be a while. Classes started Jan 7 for me, same day the money was due, and the AF still hasn't put the real money in or given me my book money. I've already paid for books though with the stipend I saved up from last year though so I'm good to go. If you get everything settled up front, you'll save yourself alot of worry.
 
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Pima said:
Type 1, Congrats, he is one of the 5%.

Now, the next question.

Does he need it to pay for college?

I.E. What if come next spring he says I love the school, hate AFROTC. How does that impact your family financially? Do you have the 60K, or does he stay to pay for the college

Please understand the answer will be tied to the 1550 laptop question.

No impact, than my response will be as candidates are announcing they got denied, your concern is paying for a laptop when you can afford a 59K yr school?

Impact, we can't swing 59k a yr. How will you pay without the scholarship? 1550 dollar laptop is the least of your worries.

Nobody here or anywhere knows what the impact of sequestration will be for ROTC. They are going to RIF, slow down ADAF promotions, cancel PME for ADAF, cut 203K flight hrs in the next yr for AD. Cannibalize jets, force retirees that served 20+ yrs to pay higher healthcare, ground the Thunderbirds. Sim instructors at UPT/FTU will be hit. Everything will be touched.

That is what the AF expects to do for sequestration. I highly doubt AFROTC won't change. It has to because the ADAF world will...the pipeline will close...he is going to be 17, 4 yrs of clogging in front of him.

I mean this with kindness, but I kind of feel like you are looking at the gift horse in the mouth. Maybe sequestration was not in your purview, but now it is. 5 yrs from now he will be ADAF. Would you want a cadet that can bolt out of AFROTC the 1st yr to get a laptop, if it means 1 less training sortie?

That is where we are at now.
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WELL SAID!:thumb:
 
Peace.

I think all your questions are fair (and we have asked ourselves the same ones), but I am only trying to understand what "Pays full college tuition, most fees and $900 per year for books" really means. What does AFROTC consider "most fees"?

I don't think trying to understand what the scholarship truely pays for is looking a gift horse in the mouth.

I too (as most - directly or indirectly) will be caught up in the possible impacts of sequestration, but I have always told my children to try not to worry about things that you don't have control over and focus on the things that you do. While this is usually is easier said than done, It is better to have a plan on how to handle the daily stresses in life then not. I also (as you have pointed out quite well to many posters on this board) have told my kids to always have a plan b, c, d, etc. as things don't always go as planned and life throws you curves and the road you thought you would travel can and will suddenly change.
 
rupewvu,
To answer your question, No. Like your son and Non Ducor Duco, my DS (currently a 100) had to have a Labtop too. Also like NDD, we had to purchase the labtop, about the same price as you refered to. NDD, my DS just got his book money and second semester scholarship money paid Wednesday the 13th, so hopefully yours will come soon. :biggrin:
 
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rupewvu,
To answer your question, No. Like your son and Non Ducor Duco, my DS (currently a 100) had to have a Labtop too. Also like NDD, we had to purchase the labtop, about the same price as you refered to. NDD, my DS just got his book money and second semester scholarship money paid Wednesday the 13th, so hopefully yours will come soon. :biggrin:
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Thanks for the answers from you and Non Ducor Duco. :thumb:
 
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Our son got the portal message yesterday and the letter in the mail today! Type 7 for technical, he wants to be a weather officer! We are newbies and so excited for him. So many questions now...how is he to decide if he does type 7 or converts to type 2 when he doesn't have all of his acceptances yet?
 
Our son had some weaker stats but has always wanted the atmospheric science major so that may have contributed.
GPA 3.4
SAT 1260
ACT 31
Leadership as a part of his daily life: work, church, clubs...but no "president, captain"
Nearly perfect PFA
Good feelings about his interview
 
psychedmom said:
Our son got the portal message yesterday and the letter in the mail today! Type 7 for technical, he wants to be a weather officer! We are newbies and so excited for him. So many questions now...how is he to decide if he does type 7 or converts to type 2 when he doesn't have all of his acceptances yet?
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Congratulations! I am a newbie too but you can learn a lot here. We are in the same boat as far as type 7 or type 2 questions. The more we think about it the better the 4, year type 7 sounds. Pretty good State school to attend and a LOT less debt. If the goal is to be an officer anyway I am not convinced that it makes much difference whether you go to a private school or just to good 'ole State U.
 
T-Bone said:
Congratulations! I am a newbie too but you can learn a lot here. We are in the same boat as far as type 7 or type 2 questions. The more we think about it the better the 4, year type 7 sounds. Pretty good State school to attend and a LOT less debt. If the goal is to be an officer anyway I am not convinced that it makes much difference whether you go to a private school or just to good 'ole State U.
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I agree. It's my opinion that after serving their active duty obligation, the fact that they were an officer will be much more important in their job search than what school they got their degree from. Of course there are always exceptions, but at the BA BS level it's not so great. an MBA from Harvard might make a difference but we aren't there yet in these scenarios.
 
I have learned a lot here for sure! The word is for the atmospheric science major there is some benefit to Cornell over SUNY Albany or Ohio State. Since Cornell is a "SUNY" (College of Ag. and Life Science) for the major he wants, he has to find out if the type 7 will work. Guessing he'd have to convert to type 2 for OSU. Converting sounds risky to me, but it is his decision in the end. He also was awarded presidential merit at Albany so if it can combine, that might be a no brainer to go there. Thinking it might since it says it can contribute to the 'cost of attendance' and not tuition. The other consideration is that Cornell and OSU have on campus det., Albany would be at RPI.
 
psychedmom said:
I have learned a lot here for sure! The word is for the atmospheric science major there is some benefit to Cornell over SUNY Albany or Ohio State. Since Cornell is a "SUNY" (College of Ag. and Life Science) for the major he wants, he has to find out if the type 7 will work. Guessing he'd have to convert to type 2 for OSU. Converting sounds risky to me, but it is his decision in the end. He also was awarded presidential merit at Albany so if it can combine, that might be a no brainer to go there. Thinking it might since it says it can contribute to the 'cost of attendance' and not tuition. The other consideration is that Cornell and OSU have on campus det., Albany would be at RPI.
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I would confirm the Presidential scholarship can be used for room and board with the school before making a decision. I expect you're correct but you know what happens when we assume. Looks like RPI is only 20-30 minutes (he'll need a car unless he can carpool... sounds like a call to the RPI unit is in order. If he only needs to go once a week for Labs that's not bad).

If my research is correct (I'm originally from Utica so your statement about Cornell didn't sound correct) tuition at Albany is $5.5K annually and tuition at Cornell is $27K per year for a NY State resident... a ~$22,000 difference. I think you'll probably need to convert to attend Cornell as well and even then you'll need to come up with another ~$10K per year for tuition, in addition to covering year 1 on your own. All this assumes there is nothing special about Ag and Life Sciences College but the web site didn't seem to indicate anything to me. You would know better, but again make no assumptions.

Not sure why you think converting is risky. First year is on you, but he has to contract in any case, just a matter of when. If he keeps the 4 year he'll have to contract in the fall before money starts flowing.

Sorry if I'm preaching to the choir but I'd rather be safe than sorry and I know you would too.
 
Kinnem is correct, you can not use the type 7 at Cornell, because it is a Private Ivy and not a state school. You would have to convert it to a Type 2 3 year with a $18,000 cap. Like Kinnem stated, you would pay for the entire first year along with the tuition difference above the $18,000 cap for the last 3 years. Also had the cost of room and board for four years on top of that.
 
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