The issue right now is that the "Pay Our Troops Act" that was passed during the shutdown of 2013 has expired, Congress would have to reinstate it and the bill is on the floor today. Whether they pass it or not it will still need to be signed by the President. I have a hard time thinking that any side would hold back on this to push an agenda but this has not been normal for a while.Keep in mind that Congress made sure that even during gov shutdown they will continue to be paid.
Combat troops are still getting paid. Every military member should be reviving their pay check on the 1st.I don’t know for sure, but I have to imagine that the answer is yes. If combat troops pay will be withheld then it seems logical all others would be as well
Keeperkat90 - Active duty service members will not receive their full pay February 1st if the shutdown continues. They will only be paid for service prior to January 20th. If it is resolved quickly or if new legislation is approved for their pay they might. Read this link - the section on "Troop Pay".Combat troops are still getting paid. Every military member should be reviving their pay check on the 1st.
Not 100% sure about rotc or how it works, but that is what we were told by the Commandant at USAFA
I think it is great that you are thinking long run, but honestly I really can't see this going for more than a week or two, or in other words by the 1st few days into Feb. I highly doubt any college is going to say 2-3 weeks into a 15 week semester, fork over the money now or we will lock your account.I am sure that schools will work with scholarship students, but they cannot wait forever for the $ and the kids have signed promissory notes so we need to be ready to fork over the funds or they take additional loans until the fiasco is over.
Holy ! Thanks for the detailed insight! E-verify, AF planes not flying officials, Commisary, etc. I never really looked too deep anytime there was a shutdown because husband always got paid due to “combat essential”. Now 2nd daughter will probably have cadet stipend and scholarship held. Will make for some interesting red tape at the bursa office.AROTC is correct AD members will not receive their full pay Feb 1st if the shutdown continues. I can't recall from when Bullet was AD what the cutoff date was for pay, but I think it was 5 days. I am not sure if that was business or actual days. Either way it basically works out to not getting paid if this goes past Friday.
To illustrate this fact even more, USAA has announced that for their service member customers they will offer them 0% int. loans to assist them to cover their pay loss during the shutdown.
There is going to really hurt the young married enlisted impo. Go shopping in any commissary and what you will always see is some young wife working there. Thus, not only is the service member not getting paid, but because the commissary will not be open during the shutdown, those spouses also will not get a paycheck.
~ Many also work at the on base daycare or if they work off base they use it too. IE Service members are still required to report to work, and if their spouse works off base, but they use the daycare it could be that they now are scrambling for daycare.
Again, I am not really that concerned. Why? Because when all of the MoCs have to make their own coffee or answer the non-stop phone calls/emails from constituents that had a trip planned to visit the Statue of Liberty or the Smithsonian only to find it closed. Or them calling because they are suppose to go on a trip in 8 weeks and now their passport application is on hold. Plus, I think for the Leaders/Whips the fact that they can't use the AF planes to fly home for the weekend than will get back to the table really quick.
~Here's a little tidbit that I find comical. Part of this shutdown is about DACA. Well, guess what? Due to the shutdown E-Verify will not be accessible to check legal status for employees.
There are hundreds of thousands of workers that will not be at work come Monday, and for the majority of them they will not be allowed to collect unemployment or even try to use their vacation time to get income coming into their household. Thus,this shutdown will have an impact sooner or later on many local economies.
~ I work for a national mens clothing retailer, and live in No VA. I can guarantee you that our numbers will be down because clothing is now a luxury. Bullet went to get his haircut yesterday at a barber shop that typically has a 20-30 min wait on a Sat. (lots of military, GS and alphabet workers...FBI, CIA, SS, IRS, etc) He walked in and there was no wait. Why? because come Monday they knew that all they were doing was walking into their building signing their official paperwork informing them they are furloughed and leaving. That 20 bucks maybe needed next week to fill their gas tank! Betting the same is true for our local dry cleaners regarding getting shirts pressed.
The one thing a shutdown does is remind people how much the govt drives the economy and that it is not just the military not getting paid.
~ Back in the early 90's when BRAC was occurring, the mayor of Mt. Home was pressing for the base to be closed because the 111s were noisy. This was in the day when you could either have direct deposit or OMG a check handed to you on payday. The Wing King knowing he did not have support of the mayor, asked the bank to get a large supply of $2 bills to use for small denominations. He informed the troops that what he wanted was everyone to pay in $2 bills. On Monday the mayor called and said mercy! I get it now because the town was over flowing with $2 bills everywhere!