How many Army ROTC scholarships are given out each year?

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rayrotc

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How many 4 year national scholarships are given per year?

How many 3 year national scholarships are given per year?

And how many Ike Skelton ECP scholarships are given per year?
 
I believe it's like 2k total between 3 and 4. Top 1000 get 4s and the next 1000 get 3 yr advanced standing. I think there are like 200 Ike Skeltons?? Someone correct me if I'm off.
 
search past threads. it has been discussed many times
 
With your stats you’ll probably be offered the ECP scholarship first which would make the number of the Regular Scholarships a moot point. If you are offered an ECP Scholarship and decide to decline it, you won’t be in the running for either the 3 or 4 year scholarships.

Best of luck
 
rayrotc said:
Thanks, but I was just curious about the number
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From the UNG website:
For the academic year 2018-2019, more than 7,000 high school senior applications for the scholarship were reviewed.
About 3,000 applicants were awarded a scholarship. About 25% of those were 4-year scholarships and 75% were 3-year scholarships.

Source:
https://ung.edu/military-college-ad...larships-and-grants/army-rotc-scholarship.php


https://ung.edu/military-college-ad...larships-and-grants/army-rotc-scholarship.php
 
I heard the amount of people actually completeing the scholarship application are actually decreasing these past years
 
Jeepstuff19 said:
I heard the amount of people actually completeing the scholarship application are actually decreasing these past years
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Really? Why is that? I mean it's good for the people competing for them as there's less competition.
 
There was an old post on here back in like 2017 were many moderators were comparing started applications to actually finishing them, and the number was decreasing over the years. Probably based on a number of reasons of why, but yea it does mean that theirs less competition now and more scholarships available
 
rayrotc said:
Jeepstuff19 said:
I heard the amount of people actually completeing the scholarship application are actually decreasing these past years
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Really? Why is that? I mean it's good for the people competing for them as there's less competition.
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I think it’s due to the fact that most people have a negative opinion about the military based on what they see on TV or have heard. I’ve heard kids say “I don’t wanna join the Army cause I don’t wanna go to war”. However, they don’t realize that a lot of soldiers have never seen combat or had to actually fire their weapon at someone. Another reason could be that the length and detail of the application was too much for some and therefore they could not or would not complete it.
 
PVET said:
Another reason could be that the length and detail of the application was too much for some and therefore they could not or would not complete it.
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Tenacity is a trait required to be successful in ROTC and as an officer.
Completing the application is only the first test.
 
rayrotc said:
Jeepstuff19 said:
I heard the amount of people actually completeing the scholarship application are actually decreasing these past years
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Really? Why is that? I mean it's good for the people competing for them as there's less competition.
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There is an economic side to this situation. When the economy is strong, the military typically will see lower numbers in recruitment and retention rates. When the economy is in the tanks than you will see higher numbers for recruitment and retention. Commissioning with certain branches, such as AFROTC and NROTC automatically lock them into 4 yrs AD, obviously AROTC offers the non-AD route. I don't think in the current environment it has much to do with combat missions, and more to do with economy.
~ IE look back to 2008 when combat op tempo was insanely high. Not only did they have no problem getting people to apply, but the SAs for the class of 13 dropped their numbers. Class of 12 had @1600 appts. for a class size of 1350. 1 yr later they dropped the number down to 1350 appts for a class size of 1100. The economy was in the tanks. Parents that owned a home or had significant investments saw their nest eggs disappear over night. Unemployment was rising with everyday, capped out close to 10% in 09. Stock market was losing value everyday, it closed under 8000 a decade ago this week. Gas prices were rising. Home foreclosure rates were at an all time high. Airlines were furloughing their pilots. Automobile manufacturers had to be bailed out, just like banks. Meanwhile during that entire time colleges were increasing tuition 5-10% every yr.
~~ Now look at our current environment. The stock market is now at 24,500. 3 times the value in a decade. Homes are selling again, and many are no longer under water with their mortgage. Unemployment rate is hovering at 4-5%, half of what it was a decade ago. Gas prices, at least in my area are close to what it was a decade ago. Airlines are hiring at a substantial pace.

IOWS, follow the money. They are hedging their bets that in 2023 that the economy will still be strong, and if their folks can contribute, while they take student loans they will be able to go straight into the workforce without that 4-5 yr commitment to the military.

No flaming me please, but we all know there are some that apply for ROTC scholarships as a way to pay for college. I am not saying they will not serve with pride, dignity, honor and willingness to defend this great nation. I am saying that for some they go this route to pay for their dream college and because the economy is stronger now, fewer find the need to go this route. Hence, why less are applying.
 
[QUOTE="Jcleppe, post: 628887, member: 5711"If you are offered an ECP Scholarship and decide to decline it, you won’t be in the running for either the 3 or 4 year scholarships.[/QUOTE]

How would they not be in the running for a 3 or 4 year. When receiving an ecp acholarship it specifically says that if declined, applicant remains eligible for subsequent boards. At my daughters school several students have been offered an ECP and declined only to be awarded 3 or 4 year scholarships at later boards.
 
Tenley71 said:
How would they not be in the running for a 3 or 4 year. When receiving an ecp acholarship it specifically says that if declined, applicant remains eligible for subsequent boards. At my daughters school several students have been offered an ECP and declined only to be awarded 3 or 4 year scholarships at later boards.
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That was my mistake, by the time I realized the error it was too late to edit, thanks for clearing it up for others that may read this.

I should have said that ECP scholarships are offered sometimes to applicants that the board feels will be on the cusp of the OML. That doesn't mean they can't still receive an offer later.
 
The 1st board gives a low number( like 500), but the second and third board offer pretty similar numbers, both usually high( like 1000 or so)
 
Pima said:
rayrotc said:
Jeepstuff19 said:
I heard the amount of people actually completeing the scholarship application are actually decreasing these past years
Click to expand...
Really? Why is that? I mean it's good for the people competing for them as there's less competition.
Click to expand...
There is an economic side to this situation. When the economy is strong, the military typically will see lower numbers in recruitment and retention rates. When the economy is in the tanks than you will see higher numbers for recruitment and retention. Commissioning with certain branches, such as AFROTC and NROTC automatically lock them into 4 yrs AD, obviously AROTC offers the non-AD route. I don't think in the current environment it has much to do with combat missions, and more to do with economy.
~ IE look back to 2008 when combat op tempo was insanely high. Not only did they have no problem getting people to apply, but the SAs for the class of 13 dropped their numbers. Class of 12 had @1600 appts. for a class size of 1350. 1 yr later they dropped the number down to 1350 appts for a class size of 1100. The economy was in the tanks. Parents that owned a home or had significant investments saw their nest eggs disappear over night. Unemployment was rising with everyday, capped out close to 10% in 09. Stock market was losing value everyday, it closed under 8000 a decade ago this week. Gas prices were rising. Home foreclosure rates were at an all time high. Airlines were furloughing their pilots. Automobile manufacturers had to be bailed out, just like banks. Meanwhile during that entire time colleges were increasing tuition 5-10% every yr.
~~ Now look at our current environment. The stock market is now at 24,500. 3 times the value in a decade. Homes are selling again, and many are no longer under water with their mortgage. Unemployment rate is hovering at 4-5%, half of what it was a decade ago. Gas prices, at least in my area are close to what it was a decade ago. Airlines are hiring at a substantial pace.

IOWS, follow the money. They are hedging their bets that in 2023 that the economy will still be strong, and if their folks can contribute, while they take student loans they will be able to go straight into the workforce without that 4-5 yr commitment to the military.

No flaming me please, but we all know there are some that apply for ROTC scholarships as a way to pay for college. I am not saying they will not serve with pride, dignity, honor and willingness to defend this great nation. I am saying that for some they go this route to pay for their dream college and because the economy is stronger now, fewer find the need to go this route. Hence, why less are applying.
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Well-stated, and a view that most folks forget about. "It's the economy stupid?"
 
Jcleppe said:
With your stats you’ll probably be offered the ECP scholarship first which would make the number of the Regular Scholarships a moot point. If you are offered an ECP Scholarship and decide to decline it, you won’t be in the running for either the 3 or 4 year scholarships.

Best of luck
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@Jarhead713 look what I just came across! Thought of you. I wonder if a phone call/email/contact the ROO at one of your schools might help?! Ya think this is true?
 
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