I'm thinking of bailing

This must be a troll account.

His son got in by knowing alumni. 😂
Give credit where credit is due. It was because they badgered those in charge of the nominations. It was a tactic not just knowing people.

They promise to explain their, how to get my kid in approach , once their kid is no longer at USNA.
 
This is likely not the last time you will think seriously of quitting. So don’t be surprised when it happens again,

A virtual fool proof plan for graduating. This approach almost without fail works.

Make them throw you out.

As hard as it is , and will be in the future, they work really hard to keep you. The school will do every thing possible to see you succeed.

As long as you don’t quit

Best of luck
 
First off I want to say I've been on the forums for along time learning about noms and appointments. I was lucky enough to receive an appointment to the class of 2027 and I am now here in Annapolis for I-day on Thursday but honestly, like the title says, I'm thinking of bailing and going back home. I'm really worried that it's not what I expect, that I'm too young to choose something like this right now when I barely know anything about life! I don't understand what makes me special enough to ever lead people in warfighting. I'm scared I'm going to fail someone. I'm just really scared. I'm here alone because my parents don't really support my decision. I've been on here long enough to know some of you guys must have been scared before you started. What did you do about it? How did you get over it? How did you get over your doubts about your ability to handle the challenges and be good enough to lead people?

Thanks. I just don't know where else to ask for help.
While I would be the first person to tell you to leave it you didn't like being there, the problem is that you haven't been there one day. Remember you have 1 or 2 years (cant remember) to decide if you want to continue and commission. Here is the truth, it won't be what you are expecting. How could it? You have no idea what its like. Even those who came before you can't really tell you as each will react differently towards it. My son did AFRtoc and laughed internally when he was yelled at. Others couldnt deal with being yelled at and had negative reactions toward it. You are too young to choose what you want, but you will have 1-2 years to figure that out. By the same logic you are too young to change your mind right now. Well, you are special, you got selected. The fact that you got selected to attend does make you special. You are right, you may not be the right person to lead in fighting but then again you may be the right person. On the other hand, you may be the officer who leads his men in making sure everyone gets paid their salary. In other words, not every officer is in charge of leading a charge up a hill. ( I realize you are joining the Navy). As for failing someone, the only person you can fail is yourself. You basically have a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity that you shouldn't blow and if you quit before you start, you will be failing yourself. Again, if you don't like it and feel that the military isn't for you, i see no problem with quitting. However at this point, you have nothing to go by except you are scared (you should be) and you have little family support.
 
Respectfully, sir or ma'am, you don't know my family situation. My mom has a chronic illness that leaves her in pain a lot and limits her mobility and my dad works full time AND takes care of her too and money is very tight. So I completely understand why they are reluctant to support me right now, and also why they can't come on parent's weekend. It was a huge shock to them when I told them I was applying to USNA and USCGA and probably moving pretty far away from them because my dad thought I'd stay home, help take care of my mom, and go to the state university not far from us. I'm an adult now - barely, but I am. So I will figure it out!
Plebe2be - I am thinking and praying for you!! you will do just fine! hang in there and dont quit - give this process a chance! I am so proud of you already for reaching out on the forum to get support - if I was there, I would be there for you tomorrow. Find the Maryland parents club for some snacks and a phone call home after the oath. They will take care of all the kids without parents. You got this and will do great!!!!
 
Respectfully, sir or ma'am, you don't know my family situation. My mom has a chronic illness that leaves her in pain a lot and limits her mobility and my dad works full time AND takes care of her too and money is very tight. So I completely understand why they are reluctant to support me right now, and also why they can't come on parent's weekend. It was a huge shock to them when I told them I was applying to USNA and USCGA and probably moving pretty far away from them because my dad thought I'd stay home, help take care of my mom, and go to the state university not far from us. I'm an adult now - barely, but I am. So I will figure it out!
I'm going to guess that your parents are going to be amazed at your transformation and growth the next time they see you (Christmas?). Don't be surprised if their support grows as you journey on your path. Sometimes parents need time to wrap their heads around their kids choosing a path that was different than what the parents envisioned. In your case, it sounds like there are additional factors that are making it difficult to fully embrace your decision, for now.
 
This is a respectful post. So to align to the first sentence, I'm asking a rhetorical question to be answered by me only: Is this a selfish and inconsiderate act when hundreds of applicants were crying and praying?
Yep, and if he walks away, there would be an empty chair tomorrow because he took a spot from someone who actually wanted to be there.
 
First off I want to say I've been on the forums for along time learning about noms and appointments. I was lucky enough to receive an appointment to the class of 2027 and I am now here in Annapolis for I-day on Thursday but honestly, like the title says, I'm thinking of bailing and going back home. I'm really worried that it's not what I expect, that I'm too young to choose something like this right now when I barely know anything about life! I don't understand what makes me special enough to ever lead people in warfighting. I'm scared I'm going to fail someone. I'm just really scared. I'm here alone because my parents don't really support my decision. I've been on here long enough to know some of you guys must have been scared before you started. What did you do about it? How did you get over it? How did you get over your doubts about your ability to handle the challenges and be good enough to lead people?

Thanks. I just don't know where else to ask for help.
These feelings are completely normal. Probably the majority of your soon to be classmates are having similar feelings of nervously wondering what they have gotten themselves into.

Having feelings of apprehension don't mean you lack what it takes or are unworthy of your appointment. It might just mean you are taking seriously the oath you are about to take.

Sorry your parents aren't there to support you this week. When you get the chance, sign up for a sponsor family. If you are religious, consider attending the summer worship services. Maybe let your roommates know if your parents aren't planning to come for parents' weekend. There are lots of folks who build their family out of the people they grow close to in the service.
My parents weren't able to come up often, but I had some great support from people I met along the way.
 
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Yep, and if he walks away, there would be an empty chair tomorrow because he took a spot from someone who actually wanted to be there.
Are you a parent whose kiddo didn’t get in? Is that the source of your anger? If so, I would suggest channeling it into positive actions that help your child reapply. Instead of degrading other posters (here, and in your other posts) here on the forums.

And, I hope that should your child at some point in their life have a change of heart, and are honest with a situation they are facing, that you are open to their plight.

There is no way, that a 17-19 yr old (still) kid can know for certain their future path. MOST don’t. MOST of the young adults I know, leaving their nests, have adjustments to their paths. Even if it’s a path they have wanted for a long time. It’s completely normal.

And lastly, there is no way I would want someone in charge of lives, and maki g decisions as an Officer, if they don’t want to be in the military (which is why both SA’s and ROTC’s have wisely adapted their ‘walk away’ options).

Attrition is built in. Period. There will be no-shows and DOR’s. It’s a necessity.
 
Are you a parent whose kiddo didn’t get in? Is that the source of your anger? If so, I would suggest channeling it into positive actions that help your child reapply. Instead of degrading other posters (here, and in your other posts) here on the forums.

And, I hope that should your child at some point in their life have a change of heart, and are honest with a situation they are facing, that you are open to their plight.

There is no way, that a 17-19 yr old (still) kid can know for certain their future path. MOST don’t. MOST of the young adults I know, leaving their nests, have adjustments to their paths. Even if it’s a path they have wanted for a long time. It’s completely normal.

And lastly, there is no way I would want someone in charge of lives, and maki g decisions as an Officer, if they don’t want to be in the military (which is why both SA’s and ROTC’s have wisely adapted their ‘walk away’ options).

Attrition is built in. Period. There will be no-shows and DOR’s. It’s a necessity.
Not only did his child get in this parent had a system for getting his kid in. A way to sort to jump start and spring ahead of those kids who do not know the nominating system as well as he does.

He claims it really works.

He plans to let folks in on this secret approach after his kid graduates. I hope to live that long and be here to read that. I say use what is legal and what works.
 
I don't understand what makes me special enough to ever lead people in warfighting. I'm scared I'm going to fail someone.
You may have already received this advice previously (didn't read through all the pages of responses). My two cents, your statements above are EXACTLY what makes someone "special" enough to lead others. Someone who realizes they are NOT special and instead are in a place to serve their subordinates. Humility.
 
Are you a parent whose kiddo didn’t get in? Is that the source of your anger? If so, I would suggest channeling it into positive actions that help your child reapply. Instead of degrading other posters (here, and in your other posts) here on the forums.
Nope.
And, I hope that should your child at some point in their life have a change of heart, and are honest with a situation they are facing, that you are open to their plight.
I have no idea what you are talking about.
There is no way, that a 17-19 yr old (still) kid can know for certain their future path. MOST don’t. MOST of the young adults I know, leaving their nests, have adjustments to their paths. Even if it’s a path they have wanted for a long time. It’s completely normal.

And lastly, there is no way I would want someone in charge of lives, and maki g decisions as an Officer, if they don’t want to be in the military (which is why both SA’s and ROTC’s have wisely adapted their ‘walk away’ options).

Attrition is built in. Period. There will be no-shows and DOR’s. It’s a necessity.
Pulling a no show is selfish and demonstrates a complete lack of integrity. Again, doing so leaves an empty chair tomorrow that could've been filled with someone who actually wants to be there.
 
Not only did his child get in this parent had a system for getting his kid in. A way to sort to jump start and spring ahead of those kids who do not know the nominating system as well as he does.

He claims it really works.
Please share this system you claim I have. If such a system exists, it is news to me and would've saved my family a lot of time and trouble.
He plans to let folks in on this secret approach after his kid graduates. I hope to live that long and be here to read that. I say use what is legal and what works.
Again, please share this secret system you claim I have. I will anxiously await your post and I trust it will forthcoming.
 
Please share this system you claim I have. If such a system exists, it is news to me and would've saved my family a lot of time and trouble.

Again, please share this secret system you claim I have. I will anxiously await your post and I trust it will forthcoming.
You got me.

You made it very clear you would not be sharing that until your kid graduated. (NAPS thread)

Then you said you would share.

I look forward to seeing that
 
You got me.

You made it very clear you would not be sharing that until your kid graduated. (NAPS thread)

Then you said you would share.

I look forward to seeing that
What you posted about me was fake news.

I NEVER claimed I had a system, secret or otherwise. I stated, in the NAPS thread, that I would share my family's experience with the process. That's it. No secret system.

---> https://www.serviceacademyforums.com/index.php?threads/naps-2024-waitlist.90390/post-962330

---> https://www.serviceacademyforums.com/index.php?threads/naps-2024-waitlist.90390/post-962391
 
Respectfully, sir or ma'am, you don't know my family situation. My mom has a chronic illness that leaves her in pain a lot and limits her mobility and my dad works full time AND takes care of her too and money is very tight. So I completely understand why they are reluctant to support me right now, and also why they can't come on parent's weekend. It was a huge shock to them when I told them I was applying to USNA and USCGA and probably moving pretty far away from them because my dad thought I'd stay home, help take care of my mom, and go to the state university not far from us. I'm an adult now - barely, but I am. So I will figure it out!
I am a CPA which has nothing to do with this except that i talk to a lot of people about their jobs and their life choices. I have to say the one story that I have heard many times and really brakes my heart is when people have gotten certain opportunities in life and because of family issues weren't able to take advantage of these opportunities. I have a client who was accepted to Law School and because of some issue in the family, he turned down the law school to help the family. He figured he would help for a couple of years and then reapply to law school. A couple of years turned into 5 and later 10 and then life happened. He never went back to school and while its true that "when a door closes a windows opens" this never happened for him. I have heard this variation of this story with a dozen of my clients. Always breaks my heart. My point is that sometimes you have it to ignore what's going on with the family and take the bull by the horn because somethings you never get a second chance. Now you didn't say anything about quitting because of mom's illness and money is tight but don't use that as a justification. It's one thing to try and fail, its another never to have tried.
 
Many have written about showing up. I want to provide insight on Day 1 and beyond.

Day 1 is a shock. Every year it seems at least one and sometimes several plebes quit on I-Day. DON'T. You have yet to connect with classmates and understand what USNA is about. Even PS isn't USNA. Be sure to experience Ac Year before making a decision. Even Plebe Year isn't USNA. And USNA isn't the Fleet.

You'll find great classmates -- each of you have unique strengths and weaknesses and you'll learn to help each other get through -- and you may find you actually enjoy it!

One piece of advice one of the chaplains gave us the first week of PS: Don't focus today on making it through USNA. Don't even focus on making it through PS. Make it through just today. Tell yourself you won't quit until at least tomorrow. Do that every day and you'll be amazed how quickly 4 years pass. It's true.
 
@Plebe2be there's a little plan in place with me and some other incoming plebes to meet up in the Market Place near the Iron Rooster at around 7:00 pm. I invite you (and any other incoming plebe on here) to come join us! We can walk around, grab some ice cream or eat dinner.
I LOVE this!! you all get together it will help you all so much!!! I am proud every single plebe 2 be!!!!
 
I recall during DS I Day, a plebe literally jumped a fence. Mom picked him up outside. Unfortunately, not all candidates are doing this for themselves; despite BGO efforts to ascertain that they, not their parents, are really driving the application and the desire to attend, commit, and eventually serve as an officer in the Navy.

I can imagine some get caught up in the swell, the hype, the excitement about receiving an appointment, and the pressure and or expectations from family and other people in their sphere.

If an appointee is truly not doing it for themselves, I can't blame them for leaving on I-Day. That would be a horrible situation for a young man or woman to be in. Some families aren't easy to stand up to.

I think some grace should be given to these young men and women. They are just kids who due to a birthday are now considered adults. They need time to grow into themselves and the world. I know I didn't have my S*&t together at 17-19, heck even after that.

I also think it's easy to judge and condemn people whom you've never met, and only discuss on an anonymous forum. None of us know the story or circumstances of any of these people. The old adage about 'walking a mile in my shoes' comes to mind.
 
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