Life at the Academy

Being able to read & memorize quickly is a great skill to have. You'll be surprised that you can actually learn to do this. That's one of the reasons I say don't memorize ahead of time.

A little anecdotal evidence: I went shopping with my DD. I had a rental car & was worried that I wouldn't be able to find it in the mall parking lot (rentals can be so generic!) DD looked at the license plate, repeated it once & said, "ok, got it." We shopped for about 3 hours. When we went back to the parking lot, she repeated the license plate exactly!

Now imagine how important that skill would be for a military officer.
 
Wasn't sure if this warranted a new thread or not. How often do cadets switch roommates? Will you have a new one each semester, year, etc.?
 
Wasn't sure if this warranted a new thread or not. How often do cadets switch roommates? Will you have a new one each semester, year, etc.?

Per USAFA website: "Squadron policies typically state that you must change roommates once throughout each academic year, however, it varies on a squadron-by-squadron basis. You will always room with a member of the same sex and usually the same class. If a cadet has significant problems, they may request and most likely be granted a change of roommate, if necessary."
 
Per USAFA website: "Squadron policies typically state that you must change roommates once throughout each academic year, however, it varies on a squadron-by-squadron basis. You will always room with a member of the same sex and usually the same class. If a cadet has significant problems, they may request and most likely be granted a change of roommate, if necessary."

I have yet to hear of a squadron enforcing the "change roommates once throughout each academic year" policy. If you are made to switch mid year it will be because you are a freshman and the training officer or squad comm wants to mix things up a bit. I had the same roommate for my first two years and will have the same roommate for this entire year (and most likely next unless he gets a group or wing level position).
 
I have yet to hear of a squadron enforcing the "change roommates once throughout each academic year" policy. If you are made to switch mid year it will be because you are a freshman and the training officer or squad comm wants to mix things up a bit. I had the same roommate for my first two years and will have the same roommate for this entire year (and most likely next unless he gets a group or wing level position).
Sounds like they should update their website. Thanks for the correction!
 
Yes. Until Recognition.

18 days...:D

StarsandSnipes, some of my classmates (and others) have already said it, but USAFA is not a normal college. A typical academic year weekday might go like this.

600-get up and change into your uniform. Make sure your room is neat and all your padlocks are locked. Also brush your teeth/shave/do whatever you usually do for morning hygiene.
620-line up in the hallway or meet in the SAR (a briefing room) with the other freshmen for minutes. Depending on your training officer and/or how well you and your squadmates have been doing lately, minutes could include everything from pushups/PT to AFSC presentations (delivered by you to your classmates) to standing in the hallways reciting knowledge and Checkpoints.
645-form up in the hallways for Morning Accountability Formations. This pretty much involves standing at attention with the rest of your squad for about 5-10 minutes while your uniform and those of your squadmates are inspected.
700-go to breakfast by running along the marble strips on the Terrazzo. All commuting between locations on the Tzo is accomplished via the strips.
730-1st class begins. Class periods are 53 minutes long, leaving 7 minutes to get between classes. This can be tricky during the first couple of weeks before you know how to get around Fairchild. I was late to a couple of classes before I figured out where everything was.
1123-4th period ends (last class before lunch)
1135-Noon Meal Formation on the Tzo. Make sure to drop off your backpack in Mitchell Hall first. Also, don't forget to carry your backpack in your hand wherever you go. You can never put it on unless you leave the Cadet Area. I would say that it generally weighs around 10 lbs--maybe more depending on how many textbooks you need to bring with you.
1155-lunch begins. C4C's may sit at ease, but some elements (1 element to a table) may require freshmen to memorize news articles or know other random knowledge.
1230-report to the SAR for a briefing from squadron leadership, or (depending on the day) begin 5th period
1330-6th period begins
1523-7th period ends. Better hurry back to squad, because:
1545-training session begins. Change into ABU's and hurry because you don't want to be late!
1730-training session ends. You may be very tired/dirty depending on how physical it was.
1800-go to dinner (if you are still clean enough after the training session, otherwise shower first)
1845-arrive back in squad. Shower and start your homework. You can close your door after 1950.
2300-TAPS. Go to bed if you can, but realistically:
2400-100-go to bed. Don't forget to set your alarm for 600 (or 620 if there are no minutes the next day).

This is not a hard-and-fast schedule. Many days don't have training sessions or minutes (or both), which gives you a little extra time. Weekends are generally super chill, and you will have time to sleep during the day (although you may have some type of training or a SAMI in the morning if it's a silver weekend). Most of the time you will also be able to sign out overnight on Friday and Saturday, if you can find a car to borrow.

I guess what I am trying to say is this: you are not a "normal person" if you go here. Normal college students don't march to lunch every day, take a physical test which counts toward their overall class ranking, or memorize what the cafeteria is serving for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. They can leave campus whenever they want. They get to choose their classes and teachers instead of having them assigned. The list goes on and on.

But there is another list. Normal college students generally don't get to fly gliders and jump out of perfectly good airplanes into football stadiums. With some exceptions, they probably don't have as many close friends as cadets do--an effect of the squad environment. They don't get PAID to go to school. They don't have a guaranteed job and career when they graduate.

As a candidate, you really need to seriously analyze both of these lists and make sure USAFA is something you want to do. You don't necessarily have to like everything--nobody likes minutes or push-ups--but it's important that you are willing to accept it as a means of achieving your goal. I have found freshman life extremely challenging, but it has been equally rewarding. (And I haven't even been through the "best" part of it yet! :))

One more note I should probably add: Yes, you can date at USAFA, and it's not uncommon. However, upperclassmen can only date upperclassmen and freshmen can only date freshmen, even after Recognition. This rule is actually a pretty big deal and is not something any doolie (or upperclassman, for that matter) should mess with if they value their status as a cadet here. After the firsties graduate, though, everyone who's left is fair game. ;)

Good luck to you. I would also encourage you to do more research about the Academy and talk to current cadets before deciding whether or not to come here (assuming you are appointed). It is a huge commitment, and you should definitely learn everything you can about USAFA before deciding. Congrats on making it this far! :thumb:
 
They don't get PAID to go to school. They don't have a guaranteed job and career when they graduate.

I know that money is taken out of your pay for initial expenses like uniforms and the computer, so after all that, about how much would you say 4 degrees earn?
 
I know that money is taken out of your pay for initial expenses like uniforms and the computer, so after all that, about how much would you say 4 degrees earn?

This year, probably about $200-300/month. Sometimes more, sometimes less, but you definitely earn enough to increase your savings and also have fun.
 
I have yet to hear of a squadron enforcing the "change roommates once throughout each academic year" policy. If you are made to switch mid year it will be because you are a freshman and the training officer or squad comm wants to mix things up a bit. I had the same roommate for my first two years and will have the same roommate for this entire year (and most likely next unless he gets a group or wing level position).

Squad dependent. Some have to switch regardless, even during C3C year. So though you may not have heard of it, I assure you that my and other cadets in other squadrons have. This is especially important if there are "issue" roommate situations. No one wants to be forced to sustain an unhappy roommate situation more than one semester because other cadets in the squadron are happy with their current roommate.
 
Squad dependent. Some have to switch regardless, even during C3C year. So though you may not have heard of it, I assure you that my and other cadets in other squadrons have. This is especially important if there are "issue" roommate situations. No one wants to be forced to sustain an unhappy roommate situation more than one semester because other cadets in the squadron are happy with their current roommate.

Right, I agree that just because I've never heard of it doesn't mean it's not true. My point was that I have yet to hear of a squadron who forces their cadets to move every semester. There is always the option of switching.

I've known people in every squadron, across the spectrum of classes, for the last three years. The vast majority of squads do not force a change each semester, but they always allow an opportunity to switch.

I was great friends with my roommate in my previous squad, therefore we decided not to switch. I'm good friends with my roommate now, so we decided not to switch either.
 
I made it seven of eight semesters at USAFA with the same roommate. At least when I was there, usually there were several roommate changes each semester/year, but those were by choice.
 
Right, I agree that just because I've never heard of it doesn't mean it's not true. My point was that I have yet to hear of a squadron who forces their cadets to move every semester. There is always the option of switching.

I've known people in every squadron, across the spectrum of classes, for the last three years. The vast majority of squads do not force a change each semester, but they always allow an opportunity to switch.

I was great friends with my roommate in my previous squad, therefore we decided not to switch. I'm good friends with my roommate now, so we decided not to switch either.

I think the concern extends past rooming with your squadron BFF. It is also about what if you get stuck with "that" roomate. Will others who are happy campers be forced to switch so that you get a break from "that" roommate?

Getting stuck with "that" roomate and the options available to address it are a concern for many people. "Traditional" colleges have varying policies on changing roommates during the academic year. Aside from the inconvenient logistics of switching rooms, switching roommates each semester enables someone to get away from a bad roommate situation. How does your squadron handle "that" roommate situation? Will it break up a happy camper BFF room in order to enable someone to get a break?
 
I think the concern extends past rooming with your squadron BFF. It is also about what if you get stuck with "that" roomate. Will others who are happy campers be forced to switch so that you get a break from "that" roommate?

Getting stuck with "that" roomate and the options available to address it are a concern for many people. "Traditional" colleges have varying policies on changing roommates during the academic year. Aside from the inconvenient logistics of switching rooms, switching roommates each semester enables someone to get away from a bad roommate situation. How does your squadron handle "that" roommate situation? Will it break up a happy camper BFF room in order to enable someone to get a break?

Our squad left it up to us to choose our roommate(s) with the understanding there had to be a certain number of three man rooms. Most people stuck with the same roommates and there were minimal changes. This, at least, gave someone a chance to get out of a bad roommate situation.
 
I think the concern extends past rooming with your squadron BFF. It is also about what if you get stuck with "that" roomate. Will others who are happy campers be forced to switch so that you get a break from "that" roommate?

Getting stuck with "that" roomate and the options available to address it are a concern for many people. "Traditional" colleges have varying policies on changing roommates during the academic year. Aside from the inconvenient logistics of switching rooms, switching roommates each semester enables someone to get away from a bad roommate situation. How does your squadron handle "that" roommate situation? Will it break up a happy camper BFF room in order to enable someone to get a break?

The policy described in an earlier post implied that every cadet would be mandated to switch roommates at least once during the academic year. That simply is not true.

However, in the situation you describe there could be some commander intervention and someone could be ordered to switch.
 
I think the concern extends past rooming with your squadron BFF. It is also about what if you get stuck with "that" roomate. Will others who are happy campers be forced to switch so that you get a break from "that" roommate?

Getting stuck with "that" roomate and the options available to address it are a concern for many people. "Traditional" colleges have varying policies on changing roommates during the academic year. Aside from the inconvenient logistics of switching rooms, switching roommates each semester enables someone to get away from a bad roommate situation. How does your squadron handle "that" roommate situation? Will it break up a happy camper BFF room in order to enable someone to get a break?

With males, typically there are enough people that don't mind rooming together that getting stuck with "that" roommate is not a huge deal. In some situations, the person that no one wants to room with ends up with people as roommates who are just not in squad that often, and then it doesn't really matter. With females, it is a little more difficult due to the lower number of potential roommates. In my squad, there are only three or so female rooms, so they need to use a little bit more diplomacy to figure out rooming. In extreme situations, the chain of command can be utilized if someone does not feel safe etc, which can allow for quick changes of roommates.
 
We had that exact issue when I was a Mid. We had one female that exactly no one wanted to live with. The rest of us decided we would rotate who she lived with each year. I got her senior year. We usually let Plebes pick unless we had 1-2 guys no one wanted to room with then we tried to mostly provide guidance to letting them figure it out. They are adults and future officers who need to figure out conflict management and Plebes also need to learn to "manage" themselves. Living with folks you don't like or don't get along with is tough, but it is also a part of the military. There will be deployments where you live with 20-40 folks in open squad bays or large tents. Others where you share a room or tent with another JO because you are the only JOs on the deployment.
 
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