Need Help Plz

[thibaud]

As a former prosecutor, you might inquire about a first-time offender program. (Assuming that's what we have here) I saw a lot of these types of cases. See if you enter some type of program that you could get a either a deferred prosecution (they put it in suspension for period of time pending no further incidents - usually a year or more and then dismiss the ticket/complaint) or a first time offender waiver program. Likely both would require some type of alcohol assessment, maybe attending some other types of meetings mentioned above.

"Alcohol assessment"

"...liable to diagnose you as 'Abuse' or 'Dependent'..."

Just curious, as an outsider, this seems really heavy-handed - I mean, conflating the _legal_ process with these kinds of _medical_ judgments that result in stigmatizing a citizen as having a _persistent medical condition_ seems really harsh.

Whatever happened to tolerance of "get a little drunk, and ya land in jail"?

Is this really such a terrible sin that the perp needs to be labeled (like Jean Valjean) permanently with a "dependent" status?

Again, maybe I'm naive and ignorant of the criminal justice system but this seems like an overreaction to a young man on a bender.

Sorry in advance - not to conflate different issues - but I can't help thinking that our society is becoming ridiculously hyper-sensitive and prone to over-criminalize and over-diagnose bad behavior.

Or am I (are we) missing some important facts here?

 

[thibaud]

(Note that the above comment only reinforces the consensus advice here that OP should notify the cadre ASAP and tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.)

 

[kinnem]

As a former prosecutor, you might inquire about a first-time offender program. (Assuming that's what we have here) I saw a lot of these types of cases. See if you enter some type of program that you could get a either a deferred prosecution (they put it in suspension for period of time pending no further incidents - usually a year or more and then dismiss the ticket/complaint) or a first time offender waiver program. Likely both would require some type of alcohol assessment, maybe attending some other types of meetings mentioned above.

"Alcohol assessment"

"...liable to diagnose you as 'Abuse' or 'Dependent'..."

Just curious, as an outsider, this seems really heavy-handed - I mean, conflating the _legal_ process with these kinds of _medical_ judgments that result in stigmatizing a citizen as having a _persistent medical condition_ seems really harsh.

Whatever happened to tolerance of "get a little drunk, and ya land in jail"?

Is this really such a terrible sin that the perp needs to be labeled (like Jean Valjean) permanently with a "dependent" status?

Again, maybe I'm naive and ignorant of the criminal justice system but this seems like an overreaction to a young man on a bender.

Sorry in advance - not to conflate different issues - but I can't help thinking that our society is becoming ridiculously hyper-sensitive and prone to over-criminalize and over-diagnose bad behavior.

Or am I (are we) missing some important facts here?

1. This isn't a criminal justice system, just so we're clear on that. It's a military justice system that we're talking about.
2. Drinking to excess, whether abuse or not, has been a rampant problem in the Navy (perhaps not currently as I'm not on top of the numbers) over the years. So they take a hard line to try to crack down on it. They'll have unscheduled drug and alcohol tests to keep a handle on things.

No comment on my part as to right or wrong, but simply what is.

 

[thibaud]

1. This isn't a criminal justice system, just so we're clear on that. It's a military justice system that we're talking about.
2. Drinking to excess, whether abuse or not, has been a rampant problem in the Navy (perhaps not currently as I'm not on top of the numbers) over the years. So they take a hard line to try to crack down on it. They'll have unscheduled drug and alcohol tests to keep a handle on things.

No comment on my part as to right or wrong, but simply what is.

Ah, ok, makes sense. Thanks for clarifying.

 

[momx3]

If you haven't already done so, You should speak with a lawyer to help you.