Say it ain't so...

Discussion in 'Service Academy Parents' started by Maplerock, Jun 30, 2017.

  1. Maplerock

    Maplerock Proud to be an American 5-Year Member

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    Really USNA? Plebes are using rolling carts on I Day? The academies seems to get kinder and gentler every year.

    I tried to post a link to the video, but couldn't. I know carrying a heavy bag all day doesn't make someone a warrior, but so many of the character building practices have gone by the wayside.

    In my opinion the academies are trying to attract more people that were turned off by the sacrifices every plebe and Doolie had to endure. Although I dislike hazing and brutality as was illustrated in Jim Webb's book "Sense of Honor", I think a lot of the discipline and strictness was what made these dedicated kids so special. It is also a reason so many grads are so proud to have endured it.

    What's next, allowing ladders at Herndon?

    Of course, it's just my opinion.
     
  2. brovol

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    There are probably some Plebes who "identify" as being tired after carrying such a load, and it is "only fair" if the stronger more fit kids don't have any "advantage" over those with the "barrier" of being in poor condition. It shouldn't matter that carrying the heavy bag isn't a problem for those who worked out and prepared for Plebe summer.

    Gosh Maplerock, why must you be so insensitive? You get soooo sassy.
     
  3. NavyHoops

    NavyHoops Super Moderator 5-Year Member

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    As one of the OGs out there we all cringed when we saw this and did a face palm. USNA processes Plebes in Alumni Hall then traditionally bussed back to Bancroft and their stuff is thrown on a truck. Once they arrive back at Mother B they are 'greeted' by detailers (ensigns, 2ndLts, other officers and civilians mostly do the Alumni part) and the real I Day begins. Due to construction they can't get busses or a truck to Alumni and back. So the reasoning to issue the carts was for the walk back to Bancroft. I still think it was the dumbest thing ever and should of just issued a sea bag or make they get it back to Bancroft. It really isn't that long of walk, they will figure it out. From what I saw once they got back to Bancroft the carts were removed. Like I said, I think it was stupid and other options could of been used, just throwing out the 'reason' USNA provided.
     
  4. Love4monsters

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    Of course we had to find the video online. We watched the I Day ceremony yesterday while bowling with our soon to be USMA plebe. His best friend swore in yesterday. Retired Navy husband was surprised as to how things have changed in regards to discipline. Might be a back in the old days situation. Wonder if USMA will have carts on Monday? Husband said the exact same thing about the sea bag.

    Saw his friend online and it was awesome. She looked very happy and ready to go. Yay!
     
  5. Sydney C.

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  6. brovol

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    USMA using carts? Bite your tongue.
     
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    buff81 Moderator 10-Year Member

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    This picture may come back to haunt USNA in an Army-Navy spirit video - LOL.
     
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  8. Love4monsters

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    I was teasing, Judge.
     
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    DrMom 5-Year Member

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    When I was a plebe there was no a/c in Bancroft Hall and we had to carry all of our issued gear on I-Day--and those were the heaviest bags I ever carried in my life. SOFT!
     
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    USMCGrunt 5-Year Member

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    Well... then there is always this "I" day for comparison.

     
  12. brovol

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    My son's barracks at West Point has no air conditioning. I told him that sounds miserable. He said one of the biggest things they all learned at Beast last year was to acclimate. The sweat really doesnt seem to bother him any more. I hate it.
     
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    DrMom 5-Year Member

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    My Plebe summer I sweated all day and all night. I lost 20 lbs. It was disgusting. It is still disgusting.
     
  14. NavyHoops

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    We didn't have A/C when I was there. You figured it out. Life went on. Would of been nice though!
     
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    Boy does that bring back some memories. I was Coast Guard but switch the color of the uniforms and there was not much difference. Don't know if it's still the same, but back then Marine Corps boot Camp was considered the hardest with the Coast Guard a close second, ours was 11 weeks. I hear it's now 8 weeks. Was never so glad to leave Alameda CA.
     
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    In one of the videos they explain that there is construction so they couldn't run the buses, to compensate they gave them rolling carts. Watching them struggle with those things was interesting.
     
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    Let's hope they practiced rolling carts in formation and with proper form...
     
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    Wishful "Land of the free, because of the brave..." 5-Year Member

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    And they say the AF is pampered ...

    I would at least expected them to pull the cart with their left hand :rolleyes:
     
  20. brovol

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    They should have a cart decorating contest as part of plebe summer, and the cutest cart gets a week off.
     
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