Twins going to 2 different academies

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  1. USNA & USAFA from MN

    USNA & USAFA from MN New Member

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    I have twin DD's. One is going to USNA and one to USAFA. Anyone else in this boat? Looking for any advice. The stress has already started - I-day is the same day at each academy!! The rules at each academy are quite different, keep getting confused about which daughter will be allowed to do what. Also, I understand that they could each attend a semester at the other academy. How often does that happen? When the academies play each other in sports (football games, etc.) can they travel to the other academy to see the game? If so, will they have an opportunity to see each other?
     
  2. MidwestDad

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    They wont see each other 'freshman' year except at Xmas unless spring breaks line up same week.
    Future years they might get 'spirit passes' to travel to away academy games.

    Cross academy semesters do happen but are limited in numbers.
     
  3. Capt MJ

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    Amongst our sponsor mid family, we had a USNA mid whose sister was at USMA. They saw each other at Thanksgiving, Christmas, once a summer leave block, never spring break (they seldom went home for that anyway), Army-Navy game (mandatory attendance), weekends after they both had cars and more weekend overnights, their last 2 years. Neither did varsity or club sports that played the other SA. After graduation, they went to Europe together for 3 weeks.

    At USNA, there are “movement orders,” or MOs, to away football games, that they can sign up for. They have to be approved to go. If they are unsat in certain things, approval is unlikely.

    Exchange semesters happen 2/c year. Again, it’s an approval thing for a handful. Much depends on the major and what courses are available so a full ac load can be maintained.

    Do look ahead with crossed fingers at what the graduation dates are. For the sisters above, the family attended the USNA Friday graduation, then everyone caravanned up the road to the USMA graduation on Saturday. I think one parent attended some of the stuff at USMA in the days prior to USNA graduation, then came down for the actual USNA grad, then all went north again.

    USNA and USAFA is much more distance-challenged.

    Your daughters have the responsibility to learn the rules and regs governing their new lives; let them take the lead on explaining to you. The SAs are both alike and very different.

    The local USNA and USAFA Parents Clubs can be very helpful.
     
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    Your Navy gal is going to be jealous of the USAFA sister. You will enjoy the parent activities much more at Navy than you will at USAFA. Navy is much more parent friendly (except parking.) If current trends continue your Navy kid will have a tougher experience than AF. NOT lesser, not better, just a bit less freedom.

    What a great situation! Did they apply to the same schools? Which one got their wish?
     
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    Just saw the article in "local" Bulletin about your twins - congratulations!
     
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    kinnem Moderator 5-Year Member

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    I assume Mom is attending one I-Day and Dad the other? And then swapping on other occasions?
     
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    The current Vice President of the c/o 2018 (at USNA) has a twin brother that went to USAFA, so it happens.

    You should note that the only time one can do semester exchange at another service academy is during the fall of 2/C (junior) year. This means that if the both of your daughters apply for semester exchange (which is pretty competitive to get), then they will be at the opposite academy at the same time. To be together, only one of them would apply and then they would have the opportunity to be together for a semester.
     
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    My kids didn't go to the SAs, but my DD is a Navy SWO and my DS is a AF Pilot. There is nothing more enjoyable as a parent than wearing a Navy sweatshirt while visiting my son, or drinking coffee from an AF mug while seeing my daughter. (And there is nothing sadder when you realize how hard it will be to get both of them home at the same time after they go on active duty.)
     
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    Congratulations to your daughters and to you as well! This is quite an accomplishment. I'm sure you all will figure out the logistics. My only question is which SA do you cheer for during athletic events? LOL
     
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    Capt MJ 5-Year Member

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    I remember Peyton and Eli Manning’s mom who said in an interview, “When they play each other, I cheer for whoever has the football in his hands.”

    You’re going to have to buy a Navy sweatshirt and an AF one, go to a tailor, get them cut in half length-wise and have two bi-partisan ones created. You’ll be a hit in the stands.
     
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    Or they could both try to go to USMA or USCGA ;)
     
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    I feel your headache but I want to congratulate you and them for their willingness to serve!

    In this case they did not enter the academies the same year. Your class VP is a college reapplicant. They did not have the I Day dilemma.
     
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    [QUOTE="BDHuff09, post:

    You should note that the only time one can do semester exchange at another service academy is during the fall of 2/C (junior) year. This means that if the both of your daughters apply for semester exchange (which is pretty competitive to get), then they will be at the opposite academy at the same time. To be together, only one of them would apply and then they would have the opportunity to be together for a semester.[/QUOTE]

    When did this change? DS was USAFA and went spring semester C2C year to USMA; his C1C year there was a mid at USAFA for spring semester.
    I know application dates were different for each SA; DS didn't have to apply for the exchange until the fall of his C2C year, but a friend at USMA had to apply at the end of C3C for the spring of C2C year.

    DS had eyes on an exchange to USMA (grandfather is a grad) early on, so he talked to his academic advisor about his course schedule and how to line up courses. He was Mechanical Engineer, so courses lined up for USMA.
     
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    USNA & USAFA from MN : Congratulations to you and your girls; quite an accomplishment for both of them! I have twin daughters also that are headed in different directions over the next couple of months. It will be a huge adjustment for them since up to this point they have always had each other to lean on at the end of the day. Here we grow again!
     
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    Also for exchange program: yes, you have to be very competitive (around 7 sent to each academy, 3-5 to USCGA) in fall 2/C year. But also, majors matter too to align your courses to have them count towards your matrix. i.e. a Naval Arch major would have a tough time trying to fit courses at USMA.
     
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    Even when they are at the same SA, their leave times might not match up. My DSs never had summer leave at the same time. I remember one saying as he sat on his bed after 4* year, "I miss XXX."
     
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