USMA grad, a Communist?

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  1. bookreader

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    Well, this certainly explains why WP has done very little to stem the problem of theft of cadet property.
     
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    Jcleppe 5-Year Member

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    If this letter is found to be authentic (Haven't seen anything yet to say it's not) then this was a tough read, and sure to be a conversation starter.
     
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    I still can't believe that Lt. Rapone is real.
     
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    Jcleppe 5-Year Member

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    I had the same thought at first when I didn't see much coverage about him other then the Daily Caller, It seems Fox did pick up the story but it has been eerily quiet on most news outlets which is strange due to the fact that they are usually eager to jump on any story that comes out of one of the academies.

    Searching through the web I haven't seen anything to claim this story is false as of yet, they're usually pretty quick in debunking stories like this if they are not accurate. On top of that it would be pretty involved to fake his postings and have a former congressman speak out about him, still I find it odd that this wasn't a story that would be flashed all over the CNN website or at least found it's way to someone's Twitter feed.

    I'm with you, it's hard to believe someone like this is real and graduated West Point, I guess that make's all the worse.
     
  5. Wishful

    Wishful "Land of the free, because of the brave..."

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    https://medium.com/@UlisseRJ/open-letter-to-grads-from-ltc-ret-heffington-659dac71511f

    Wow, you definitely get the feeling of pent up frustration...As outsiders with another frame of reference, I would like to hear from some of the exchange cadets (as OP's or thru one of us on the forum) who could weigh in on these allegations. Also I imagine there is some review (external of USMA) of the discipline process, # of honor trials, # on Ac Pro, etc. I would be interested in what that revealed. Lastly, these allegations may raise to the level that the Army's internal investigations unit would be called in. While I don't know their parameters, it would seem that some formal interviews may have to take place.
     
  6. Humey

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    What I dont get is why he went to West Point, if it stands for everything he hates. Or was he just looking for a free 4 year college? I have to imagine there are similar ways of doing so
     
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    Wishful "Land of the free, because of the brave..."

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    Maybe Rapone thinks that he could do more damage on the inside, than out. He's very upfront about his political beliefs.
     
  8. conrack

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    Been following this news on facebook; it also now comes to light that he was written up several times by a WP faculty member for being verbally abusive and disrespectful but no action was taken. Somebody correct me if I am wrong but being an avowed communist is a violation of military standards and the oath of office, this idiot can count on a damning OER that will end his career fairly quickly.
     
  9. NTWLF ONE

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    "He perpetually needs a haircut..." Best line in the whole sworn statement...:)

    That's exactly what I thought....before I saw the Che t-shirt...
     
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    Unless I'm wrong, I thought that Spenser Rapone was once a hardcore right-wing type whom served a four year tour as an enlisted soldier, including duty in Afghanistan. Then transformed into a Leninist, somehow.

    He'd hardly be the first who transformed from political rightie to political leftie during military service - though admittedly the West Point angle is different.

    The Vietnam War certainly pushed a lot of American servicemen from right-to-left (though I doubt many became actual communists).

    Had Lt. Rapone not written such disparaging comments about the Sec of Defence & others (which cannot be tolerated in the ranks, ever, i.e. remember a handful of highly publicized cases of servicemen being discharged post-haste when they participated publicly in Obama "birther" rhetoric) he would still be qualified to serve as a junior officer. regardless of his communist beliefs, as long as they didn't negatively impact his ability to carry out his duty.

    If Lt. Rapone been commissioned in a less electronic era, graduating from West Point in, say, 1977 rather than 2017, his personal political beliefs might have remained, well, personal. Maybe in a few years moderated. Maybe renounced completely. Maybe return to a right-wing viewpoint. Who knows?
     
  11. Day-Tripper

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    Being a communist is no more disqualifying than being a democratic or republican or socialist or libertarian or even Nazi.

    Being written up for abusive/disrespectful conduct, regardless of political persuasion, certainly should have been addressed prior to commissioning.

    P.S. How many draftees, when questioned at induction centers across the US circa 1966-1971, openly claimed to be communist or homosexual only to be told "Tough luck, Madame Mao, you're in the Army anyway."
     
  12. Day-Tripper

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    Clearly now-Lt. Rapone did & said a lot of things which would seem to have made him incompatible for commissioning as a US Army officer, based on the story quoted.

    Someone dropped the ball in letting him proceed to graduation.

    But if he had not made the outrageous (and arrogant, insubordinate and just plain rude) statements, would simply being an avowed communist be sufficient grounds for dismissal from the USMA???

    From a legal standpoint, I don't think so. I'm not saying that's right.
     
  13. raimius

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    No, as long as you don't air your political beliefs in connection with your service, advocate the violent overthrow of the government (or belong to organizations that do), or let your personal views interfere with good order and discipline, you can be of whatever political party you want.
     
  14. THParent

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    Considering that it's a pretty good gig for a career that can actually be "over" before you're 40 years old, this guy isn't doing much for the size of his pension. O-6 pay is about 45 grand more a year than you'll ever get, forever-second-leuie-rapony!
    He's a butterbar that won't be able to afford to buy butter. :biggrin: