USNA 2026 Waiting and.… Waiting

IronmanDaremo said:
Yeah, just accept the USAFA appointment. Not binding until you show up and are sworn in. Or contact their admissions group and ask for an extension.
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Sadly, that means that the Air Force is likely to decline an otherwise qualified candidate because they assume that our children are going.
 
USCGA123 said:
Good Morning,
We thought this would all be over yesterday too. We are still CPR this morning.

As if the stress hasnt been bad enough, my DS has been given a deadline of COB Monday to accept or decline Air Force Academy. Navy is her first choice. We called her BGO last night and he said he was fielding calls from many others too. Neither he nor the AC know why this is happening but said it was likely a glitch in Salesforce. Said the decisions are made but no idea what’s going on - course Admissions is closed for Easter/Passover. DS doesn’t want to call USAFA and ask them if she can delay her response because they are her second choice.

At a minimum, USNA should have sent word through their BGOs that there was a glitch and they weren’t going to meet their self-imposed deadline. Unsat.

Wondering if anyone here was notified yesterday or has been this morning?
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My DS is on the opposite side. Waiting
To hear from USAFA.
 
USCGA123 said:
Sadly, that means that the Air Force is likely to decline an otherwise qualified candidate because they assume that our children are going.
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There are lots of candidates similar to your DS. He is not unique. And also a good example of part of the reason there IS a waitlist.

Also, please know, that it isn’t a ‘one for one’ situation where your son accepting, or declining, necessarily equates to an actual offer, or not, to another candidate. It isn’t. In the big picture, it’s a product of overall yield.

Often, the settlements of where an appointee is CHARGED isn’t completed until well after the class is appointed. Charging shuffles around to get their class.

Point is this. He should treat HIS OPTIONS as his. Unrelated to other candidate offerings, or not. If he would truly serve at his second choice? He should accept it. If he isn’t interested in a 2nd choice at this point? He should decline. This IS the way he manages this, waiting to see if 1st choice comes through.

It could be that should he decline his slates offer, not another person on that slate will be offered an appointment.

And respectfully, USNA is doing their very best. They aren’t holding out to cause angst. Or being lazy. Personally I’m grateful they don’t act with haste in order to meet a date. Deadlines change all the time in the real world. They state that they ‘aim to let MOST know by April 15th’. They have met that goal.

Im a (newer) BGO, and have not received any official notification that there is an issue with Salesforce. Doesn’t mean there isn’t, but if there is? I’m certain usna is working their tails off to solve it. And no, USNA and USAFA are two separate organizations. They don’t have the exact same process.

The staff working through this are real people. With real families. Who have kids who have soccer games, and family dinners. That I’m sure they are missing out on this time of year. I’ve met a couple of them and they are awesome. And I'm grateful to know grateful are taking this who process so seriously. Many of them also attended USNA and know this feeling of waiting.

I also know, as a mom of somone who was funneled through several waitlist TWE’s, and pulled later from the list, that if it happens, the wait was well worth it.

Absolutely he should accept USAFA if he is willing to serve in the AF. There is nothing unique about later declining should USNA come through and he decides that’s where he belongs. This is a perfect example of the ‘yield’ that USNA plans for. And if he declines, it MAY or MAY NOT result in somone else (🙋‍♀️) being pulled. If they have met their numbers? Him declining MAY NOT result in a pull from the wailtlist. EITHER WAY, his ‘spot’ will NOT go to waste.
 
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justdoit19 said:
There are lots of candidates similar to your DS. He is not unique. And also a good example of part of the reason there IS a waitlist.

Also, please know, that it isn’t a ‘one for one’ situation where your son accepting, or declining, necessarily equates to an actual offer, or not, to another candidate. It isn’t. In the big picture, it’s a product of overall yield.

Often, the settlements of where an appointee is CHARGED isn’t completed until well after the class is appointed. Charging shuffles around to get their class.

Point is this. He should treat HIS OPTIONS as his. Unrelated to other candidate offerings, or not. If he would truly serve at his second choice? He should accept it. If he isn’t interested in a 2nd choice at this point? He should decline. This IS the way he manages this, waiting to see if 1st choice comes through.

It could be that should he decline his slates offer, not another person on that slate will be offered an appointment.

And respectfully, USNA is doing their very best. They aren’t holding out to cause angst. Or being lazy. Personally I’m grateful they don’t act with haste in order to meet a date. Deadlines change all the time in the real world. They state that they ‘aim to let MOST know by April 15th’. They have met that goal.

Im a (newer) BGO, and have not received any official notification that there is an issue with Salesforce. Doesn’t mean there isn’t, but if there is? I’m certain usna is working their tails off to solve it. And no, USNA and USAFA are two separate organizations. They don’t have the exact same process.

The staff working through this are real people. With real families. Who have kids who have soccer games, and family dinners. That I’m sure they are missing out on this time of year. I’ve met a couple of them and they are awesome. And I'm grateful to know grateful are taking this who process so seriously. Many of them also attended USNA and know this feeling of waiting.

I also know, as a mom of somone who was funneled through several waitlist TWE’s, and pulled later from the list, that if it happens, the wait was well worth it.

Absolutely he should accept USAFA if he is willing to serve in the AF. There is nothing unique about later declining should USNA come through and he decides that’s where he belongs. This is a perfect example of the ‘yield’ that USNA plans for. And if he declines, it MAY or MAY NOT result in somone else (🙋‍♀️) being pulled. If they have met their numbers? Him declining MAY NOT result in a pull from the wailtlist. EITHER WAY, his ‘spot’ will NOT go to waste.
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Well said. DS started his process for USNA while waiting for USAFA decision…. He wont tell us what his final pick is yet and we dont press either as it is his choice and his time in the service. He knows we will support him either way, even if at the last minute he says he wants to stay civilian …..
 
justdoit19 said:
Also, please know, that it isn’t a ‘one for one’ situation where your son accepting, or declining, necessarily equates to an actual offer, or not, to another candidate. It isn’t. In the big picture, it’s a product of overall yield.
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Folks, @justdoit19 post is spot on. Please read it carefully. No one is taking another person’s slot by not declining an offer quickly (or even by changing their mind later). And it’s all because of “yield.”

Say USNA is planning a class of 1200. They know from recent history that to get 1200 plebes, they need to send about 1400 offers. (USNA’s yield is approximately 85%.) So if someone hasn’t received an offer, that doesn’t mean they might be candidate #1201. At best, they might be candidate #1401. And that doesn’t count the waitlist. So if the candidate isn’t on the waitlist — and say there are 100 on the waitlist — then they might actually be candidate #1501.

No one is “taking” anyone’s slot. In fact, they “earned” it.
 
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MidCakePa said:
Folks, @justdoit19’s post is spot on. Please read it carefully. No one is taking another person’s slot by not declining an offer quickly (or even by changing their mind later). And it’s all because of “yield.”

Say USNA is planning a class of 1200. They know from recent history that to get 1200 plebes, they need to send about 1400 offers. (USNA’s yield is approximately 85%.) So if someone hasn’t received an offer, that doesn’t mean they might be candidate #1201. At best, they might be candidate #1401. And they might be on the waitlist that might be activated once the first 1400 have made their decisions.

No one is “taking” anyone’s slot. In fact, they “earned” it.
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I will show my DD this. Sorry previously referred to her as DS.
 
MidCakePa said:
Folks, @justdoit19’s post is spot on. Please read it carefully. No one is taking another person’s slot by not declining an offer quickly (or even by changing their mind later). And it’s all because of “yield.”

Say USNA is planning a class of 1200. They know from recent history that to get 1200 plebes, they need to send about 1400 offers. (USNA’s yield is approximately 85%.) So if someone hasn’t received an offer, that doesn’t mean they might be candidate #1201. At best, they might be candidate #1401. And they might be on the waitlist that might be activated once the first 1400 have made their decisions.

No one is “taking” anyone’s slot. In fact, they “earned” it.
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We know, but the draft trade still sounds like fun meanwhile
 
USCGA123 said:
I will show my DD this. Sorry previously referred to her as DS.
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The easiest way to think about this is she would only take up a spot if she STAYED in it. Permanently. If she releases it, the SA can then use that flexibility as they wish, until as late in the cycle as they wish.

The SAs also know hundreds of their applicants apply to more than 1 SA, and that priorities change, sometimes multiple times. They don’t have feelings to hurt. As I noted before, they want candidates to make the choice that feels best for them, and they plan for changed minds.
 
DS is still CPR. Trying to hit obsess. Feeling better that others are in the same boat, that it’s not a glitch 😬. BGO said to enjoy the weekend and not think about it…yeah right!!
 
USCGA123 said:
Thanks so much. Unfortunately, my DS is pretty adamant that she not tell USAFA (or USCGA) that it’s her second choice - and equally adamant that she not say yes and prevent another candidate from having to wait or be declined for a slot because she accepted. I know we’re blessed that she got into two of the three academies that she competed for and that she wants to be transparent but the process and the glitches at Navy are unnecessary. They need to get their systems squared away. Our BGO tells us this is an ongoing problem with Salesforce.
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This current lack of decision is not a salesforce issue. In the end, there are a LOT of moving parts and sometimes "stuff" does not happen on the day that is planned to happen/be done. Even in Service Academy admissions, key people get sick, have deaths in the family or other reasons for unplanned absence.
They WILL make a decision and they WILL let you know as soon as they can.
 
FWIW, being a BGO during the Salesforce migration was my FOURTH Salesforce migration and (thankfully) in this case I was at a much greater "distance" from the issues and blowback that took place with EVERY ONE of them Overall, from my seat on the sidelines, I'd grade what I saw of USNA's Salesforce introduction during a pandemic with lots of "people issues" at about "C+" to "B" overall. I've seen far worse at large, well funded companies when there was not a pandemic that impacted a lot of the schedules/people.
 
Thank you all.. I’m so happy I found this thread as my DS is in CPR too. I wanted to ask if anyone else was waiting medical waiver as well.. or will both of those decisions happen at the same time?
 
I just went to pick up my moms wedding ring from a jeweler that’s repairing it. That the fire department had to cut it off her finger due to swelling from a fall. She never takes it off. My dad passed away and she touches it when we speak of him. I went into the small local jewelry story, kind of upset. My call wasn’t returned. It was promised last week. Bc this week is moms birthday and I want to surprise her.

I ate a little humble pie, when they tried to accommodate if I could return in a little later. The store owner has Covid and she is very ill. Staff is trying to manage with out her (she is the artist). And they are short staffed to boot.

There are still issues out there that are affecting things. This was a prime example. The “promised by date” will pass for this ring. But there is a reason. And it’s fine.

USNA will get their stuff out as soon as they can.
 
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