USNA summer seminar and stats

[phatman]

I plan to work as hard as I can to try and get in
I also got a personal trainer to help me prepare for the CFA so im going to destroy that test when Im ready
Getting into the summer seminar would be awesome but what you said is also correct, Im glad I started the application process now and showed that I am intrested
Not getting in will only motivate me to continue working hard and becoming the best

Thank you for your advice!!

Just make sure your trainer is familiar w/ the CFA. An alternative that I got for my son to prepare for plebe summer based upon some recommendations I had seen in this forum is Stew Smith (former Navy SEAL who ran workouts at this past year's summer seminar and who has a lot of workout books geared towards military physical training). (https://www.stewsmithfitness.com/). Good luck with both summer seminar and class of '29!

 

[Navyaddict]

NASS is a recruiting tool. Acceptance does not always go to the "most competitive" candidates. Yes, there has to be some level of achievement, but USNA also looks for schools and areas and students who have historically been underrepresented at USNA. Thus, many excellent candidates are turned down b/c USNA doesn't need to promote itself in their area.

I didn't decide to apply to USNA until Memorial Day of my junior year, so it's okay to make the decision later than others.

Biggest thing I see is math as a senior. Statistics doesn't "count" as "math" for USNA the same way Calc does. If you've already taken A/B Calc (it wasn't entirely clear from your post), DO NOT take Pre-Calc now. It looks like you're trying to earn an "easy A" by taking a course that you've already mastered. Don't shy away from Calc B/C b/c it's "hard" because you will need to take or validate 3 semesters of Calc at USNA. Thus, if you go to USNA, you'll have to take it eventually. Now, if you think you'll get a low C to an F, then maybe don't take it.

Photography is ok as a 5th or 6th course, but it seems to be your 4th. You need a writing course -- English or history. AP French is ok if it is at an advanced level (4th year of h.s. French) which I assume it is. Stats is ok, but the overall schedule seems a bit thin/weak.

Other than that, you're on the right track. Do something productive with your summer -- work, camps, summer school, etc. Don't just sit around and "work on applications."

Best of luck!

I've thought about it and plan to talk to my school counselor. AP Calc BC is an extremely hard subject, but I know I can do decent-pretty well in it if i put in my best effort, so I am planning to switch from AP Stats to that instead.

I've taken AP English classes since my sophomore year, it just has weird names "AP seminar and AP composition".
I plan to take this new English course at my school called Pursuit of Happiness next year, do you think it would be better if I switch to Creative Writing instead? or even AP literature

is new York, long island underrepresented at USNA?

 

[PierceO]

I am also a junior, and I’m going to USNA session 2, and West Point Session 1. USNA sent the acceptance email to me on 3/5, USMA emailed on 2/9.
Here are my stats…
-4.0 unweighted
-Top 10 in my class
-All Honors courses since 9th grade
-AP classes taken- Bio, physics, chem, lit., Spanish, world history, and calculus (not sure what my schedule will be senior year)
-SAT 1330 in October, waiting for my March scores back
-Eagle Scout (Eagle Scout project was refinishing a walk through exhibit at the “Hell-mira” Civil War Prison camp using the original “Barracks #3” wood. Elmira, NY”
-Boys State this June
-Vice President of my class
-National Honors Society
-RHO Kappa National Social Studies Honor Society
-Varsity XC 3 years
-Varsity swimming and diving 3 years
-Varsity Track and Field 3 years (made it to districts each year for all sports)
-High school choir 3 years
-Regional, State, and National Science Olympiad champion 3 years
-“Reflections” 3 years (also district singer)
-attended STEM on deck at USNA 2021
-attended West Point STEM camp 2021
-attended Army Corps of Engineers STEM and Construction camp, Vicksburg MS 2022
-Red Cross Certified Lifeguard
- crew member at McDonald’s during the summer

My older brother is an enlisted Navy Nuke- he’s now entering the STA-21 program. I can’t wait to be an officers side by side.

What else can I do to improve my application to the academy?

 

[Navyaddict]

I am also a junior, and I’m going to USNA session 2, and West Point Session 1. USNA sent the acceptance email to me on 3/5, USMA emailed on 2/9.
Here are my stats…
-4.0 unweighted
-Top 10 in my class
-All Honors courses since 9th grade
-AP classes taken- Bio, physics, chem, lit., Spanish, world history, and calculus (not sure what my schedule will be senior year)
-SAT 1330 in October, waiting for my March scores back
-Eagle Scout (Eagle Scout project was refinishing a walk through exhibit at the “Hell-mira” Civil War Prison camp using the original “Barracks #3” wood. Elmira, NY”
-Boys State this June
-Vice President of my class
-National Honors Society
-RHO Kappa National Social Studies Honor Society
-Varsity XC 3 years
-Varsity swimming and diving 3 years
-Varsity Track and Field 3 years (made it to districts each year for all sports)
-High school choir 3 years
-Regional, State, and National Science Olympiad champion 3 years
-“Reflections” 3 years (also district singer)
-attended STEM on deck at USNA 2021
-attended West Point STEM camp 2021
-attended Army Corps of Engineers STEM and Construction camp, Vicksburg MS 2022
-Red Cross Certified Lifeguard
- crew member at McDonald’s during the summer

My older brother is an enlisted Navy Nuke- he’s now entering the STA-21 program. I can’t wait to be an officers side by side.

What else can I do to improve my application to the academy?

Wow I don’t even know what to say, everything you have right now is amazing I really don’t know what you can improve on besides SAT score.

 

[WT Door]

I am also a junior, and I’m going to USNA session 2, and West Point Session 1. USNA sent the acceptance email to me on 3/5, USMA emailed on 2/9.
Here are my stats…
-4.0 unweighted
-Top 10 in my class
-All Honors courses since 9th grade
-AP classes taken- Bio, physics, chem, lit., Spanish, world history, and calculus (not sure what my schedule will be senior year)
-SAT 1330 in October, waiting for my March scores back
-Eagle Scout (Eagle Scout project was refinishing a walk through exhibit at the “Hell-mira” Civil War Prison camp using the original “Barracks #3” wood. Elmira, NY”
-Boys State this June
-Vice President of my class
-National Honors Society
-RHO Kappa National Social Studies Honor Society
-Varsity XC 3 years
-Varsity swimming and diving 3 years
-Varsity Track and Field 3 years (made it to districts each year for all sports)
-High school choir 3 years
-Regional, State, and National Science Olympiad champion 3 years
-“Reflections” 3 years (also district singer)
-attended STEM on deck at USNA 2021
-attended West Point STEM camp 2021
-attended Army Corps of Engineers STEM and Construction camp, Vicksburg MS 2022
-Red Cross Certified Lifeguard
- crew member at McDonald’s during the summer

My older brother is an enlisted Navy Nuke- he’s now entering the STA-21 program. I can’t wait to be an officers side by side.

What else can I do to improve my application to the academy?

Find a cure for cancer? Help negotiate peace in the Middle East? Just kidding. Stats look impressive at first glance. No ACT scores. USNA super scores SAT/ACT so that might be to your advantage. Were you a captain of any of the varsity teams? Will you be? Any AP courses in math available? If you want to get an early jump start digging into the usna.edu website. Read everything. This should be your primary source of information. Later, go to your congressperson's and senator's websites. Look under constituent services for service academy nominations. Wouldn't be too early glance at their application requirements. Remember there are a whole lot of moving parts to the entire application process for service academies. Stay on top of all deadlines. Submit the best application possible that reflects you and your accomplishments. Now check your portal. Wait a second. You'll be applying for the Class of 2029? Your portal won't be open for a while. Then you'll go crazy. Good luck.

 

[blinkus]

Find a cure for cancer? Help negotiate peace in the Middle East? Just kidding.

Would finding a cure for cancer or negotiating peace in the Middle East help? What if you can only find a cure to HIV instead? Or only negotiate peace in Asia. Please let me know, I'll try my best to achieve these things and send it into admissions before April 15th. I mean, you said just kidding but... whatever helps right?

 

[Navyaddict]

Would finding a cure for cancer or negotiating peace in the Middle East help? What if you can only find a cure to HIV instead? Or only negotiate peace in Asia. Please let me know, I'll try my best to achieve these things and send it into admissions before April 15th. I mean, you said just kidding but... whatever helps right?

i mean honestly i think you should just run for president. Like imagine how great that would look on your application? youngest president of the United States andd you can even write yourself an amazing nomination letter!!! USNA would def take u after that

 

[WT Door]

i mean honestly i think you should just run for president. Like imagine how great that would look on your application? youngest president of the United States andd you can even write yourself an amazing nomination letter!!! USNA would def take u after that

Sorry, the Constitution says you have to be at least 35 years old to run.

 

[WT Door]

Would finding a cure for cancer or negotiating peace in the Middle East help? What if you can only find a cure to HIV instead? Or only negotiate peace in Asia. Please let me know, I'll try my best to achieve these things and send it into admissions before April 15th. I mean, you said just kidding but... whatever helps right?

A cure for HIV might not gain an appointment. If the board saw Jesus' accomplishment of being able to walk on water, they might say: Look at that guy, he can't even swim! The admissions board works in mysterious ways. The 15th will come soon enough. Good luck as you wait.

 

[Rach3]

I am also a junior, and I’m going to USNA session 2, and West Point Session 1. USNA sent the acceptance email to me on 3/5, USMA emailed on 2/9.
Here are my stats…
-4.0 unweighted
-Top 10 in my class
-All Honors courses since 9th grade
-AP classes taken- Bio, physics, chem, lit., Spanish, world history, and calculus (not sure what my schedule will be senior year)
-SAT 1330 in October, waiting for my March scores back
-Eagle Scout (Eagle Scout project was refinishing a walk through exhibit at the “Hell-mira” Civil War Prison camp using the original “Barracks #3” wood. Elmira, NY”
-Boys State this June
-Vice President of my class
-National Honors Society
-RHO Kappa National Social Studies Honor Society
-Varsity XC 3 years
-Varsity swimming and diving 3 years
-Varsity Track and Field 3 years (made it to districts each year for all sports)
-High school choir 3 years
-Regional, State, and National Science Olympiad champion 3 years
-“Reflections” 3 years (also district singer)
-attended STEM on deck at USNA 2021
-attended West Point STEM camp 2021
-attended Army Corps of Engineers STEM and Construction camp, Vicksburg MS 2022
-Red Cross Certified Lifeguard
- crew member at McDonald’s during the summer

My older brother is an enlisted Navy Nuke- he’s now entering the STA-21 program. I can’t wait to be an officers side by side.

What else can I do to improve my application to the academy?

Impressive and congrats on your achievements, but be careful about boasting in public ... might bite you in the future!

 

[Navyaddict]

A cure for HIV might not gain an appointment. If the board saw Jesus' accomplishment of being able to walk on water, they might say: Look at that guy, he can't even swim! The admissions board works in mysterious ways. The 15th will come soon enough. Good luck as you wait.

just wondering, are you a dad?

 

[Ivy22]

Would finding a cure for cancer or negotiating peace in the Middle East help? What if you can only find a cure to HIV instead? Or only negotiate peace in Asia. Please let me know, I'll try my best to achieve these things and send it into admissions before April 15th. I mean, you said just kidding but... whatever helps right?

Need to found more nonprofits for sure, some kids have already founded multiple nonprofits by your age

 

[blinkus]

Need to found more nonprofits for sure, some kids have already founded multiple nonprofits by your age

Man. D:

 

[Navyaddict]

Need to found more nonprofits for sure, some kids have already founded multiple nonprofits by your age

If anyone does end up deciding to start a nonprofit make sure its a nonprofit that actually does stuff such as fundraising, volunteer work, etc and not just post instagram posts!!! Many nonprofits i’ve seen only post on instagram

 

[PierceO]

Find a cure for cancer? Help negotiate peace in the Middle East? Just kidding. Stats look impressive at first glance. No ACT scores. USNA super scores SAT/ACT so that might be to your advantage. Were you a captain of any of the varsity teams? Will you be? Any AP courses in math available? If you want to get an early jump start digging into the usna.edu website. Read everything. This should be your primary source of information. Later, go to your congressperson's and senator's websites. Look under constituent services for service academy nominations. Wouldn't be too early glance at their application requirements. Remember there are a whole lot of moving parts to the entire application process for service academies. Stay on top of all deadlines. Submit the best application possible that reflects you and your accomplishments. Now check your portal. Wait a second. You'll be applying for the Class of 2029? Your portal won't be open for a while. Then you'll go crazy. Good luck.

Thank you for your input. I did not take the ACT. I have not been a captain of any of my varsity sports, and I’m not sure if I will have the opportunity next year. Next week we will select our senior schedules. I will take AP courses if they are available. Two years ago I watched my older brother go through this process with USNA and USMA. The only thing different with our stats is that he did not do Science Olympiad or swimming/diving. Even with nominations he was not given an appointment. I went with him to the recruiter’s office and the day he enlisted. There was actually a few people in his A school that had the same story-No appointments and didn’t follow through with ROTC deadlines. I am going to apply for ROTC. If all of that fails I will enlist.

 

[PierceO]

Wow I don’t even know what to say, everything you have right now is amazing I really don’t know what you can improve on besides SAT score.

Hopefully my next SAT score will be higher. I thought the math section on the new digital SAT was more complicated than the written one in October.

 

[PierceO]

Impressive and congrats on your achievements, but be careful about boasting in public ... might bite you in the future!

I didn’t mean to boast at all. I was looking for honest feedback on improving my application. I watched my brother two years ago apply to academies and even with nominations he did not gain an appointment. Other than Science Olympiad and Swimming we have the same stats. In fact his SAT was higher, and he was a state runner. He enlisted Navy Nuke and has multiple classmates in A school that also did not gain admission. I’m going to follow through with ROTC deadlines, but I’m also ready to enlist. When I was at the recruit training command in Illinois for his PIR I met so many so many awesome sailors with different backgrounds- all I could think of was how great it’s going to be to all work together someday. Do you not read the other candidates statements and think… wow the US is going to maintain and continue to be the most powerful Navy the world has ever seen? I read them, and I am excited for them, and the US Navy.

 

[Navyaddict]

Thank you for your input. I did not take the ACT. I have not been a captain of any of my varsity sports, and I’m not sure if I will have the opportunity next year. Next week we will select our senior schedules. I will take AP courses if they are available. Two years ago I watched my older brother go through this process with USNA and USMA. The only thing different with our stats is that he did not do Science Olympiad or swimming/diving. Even with nominations he was not given an appointment. I went with him to the recruiter’s office and the day he enlisted. There was actually a few people in his A school that had the same story-No appointments and didn’t follow through with ROTC deadlines. I am going to apply for ROTC. If all of that fails I will enlist.

Yea admissions are sometimes a little bit strange to the point where you could have amazing stuff on your application but not get in. What did your brother do instead of USNA since he did not get the appointment?

I can literally feel your dedication towards the Navy through the screen, I really do hope you end up in USNA.

I think if I don’t get in I’ll go for ROTC or go to a prep school and re apply the following year. What are some good ROTC schools?

 

[Aviation Nation 1]

I think if I don’t get in I’ll go for ROTC or go to a prep school and re apply the following year. What are some good ROTC schools?

The Citadel, VMI, Texas A&M, and MMI are a few military colleges with great ROTC programs. Since I presume you are more interested in the Navy route, a place like SUNY Maritime College could also be a good plan B for you. I think that it would be good to do a little research on what programs each institution has to offer, and in the fall of your senior year you can make an informed decision on the best plan B to apply to.

 

[bookjustice]

I've thought about it and plan to talk to my school counselor. AP Calc BC is an extremely hard subject, but I know I can do decent-pretty well in it if i put in my best effort, so I am planning to switch from AP Stats to that instead.

I've taken AP English classes since my sophomore year, it just has weird names "AP seminar and AP composition".
I plan to take this new English course at my school called Pursuit of Happiness next year, do you think it would be better if I switch to Creative Writing instead? or even AP literature

is new York, long island underrepresented at USNA?

BC is not that hard, honestly. If you've already done AB you've done around 66% of BC. I didn't do AB before BC and I'm doing ok in BC.