2020 Hopefuls

It took over a month for ours to post, but the submission date posted was the same date as the interview.

I have a feeling that the interview itself is not the only thing they are evaluating. I'm no expert, but follow up seems to be very important. Maybe they want to wait and see how you react after the interview, or how you progress. As you know, no one really knows anything for sure, and I could be totally wrong.
 
Every BGO is different. Some might do the write up right after and others might be doing a bunch of interviews and then write them up. Remember they have jobs and families too. So they might have a road trip, family stuff or a big project at work. So it might just take them longer to knock out the write up than other BGOs.
 
Anyone get a CVW invite yet? How do they come? Is there options for certain weekends candidates may attend? If so, does anyone know when? Thanks!

Last year, my DS received his LOA from the Naval Academy in November, so he requested a CVW to help him make his final decision about which college to attend. Because he requested a CVW, he was invited to attend one and attended in February of his senior high school year. So it is not too late to get a CVW invite and if you have not done one and you get a LOA, I would ask to attend if it will help you to make your decision.
 
DS has friends who already have been admitted to honors colleges throughout our area, and others just receiving early admissions notices. He is starting to panic that he needs to look at other schools so that he can secure a place and scholarships. Several have called the house in the last few days offering him placement and scholarships, but he is afraid to make any sort of commitment to a civilian school. This college process is like Christmas season at Wal-Mart. It starts earlier every year, and never when you expect it.
 
DS has friends who already have been admitted to honors colleges throughout our area, and others just receiving early admissions notices. He is starting to panic that he needs to look at other schools so that he can secure a place and scholarships. Several have called the house in the last few days offering him placement and scholarships, but he is afraid to make any sort of commitment to a civilian school. This college process is like Christmas season at Wal-Mart. It starts earlier every year, and never when you expect it.
The fear is that if he commits to one of these early admissions/scholarship programs, they usually require a signature that you will cease your college search and guarantee you will take their offer.
 
DS has friends who already have been admitted to honors colleges throughout our area, and others just receiving early admissions notices. He is starting to panic that he needs to look at other schools so that he can secure a place and scholarships. Several have called the house in the last few days offering him placement and scholarships, but he is afraid to make any sort of commitment to a civilian school. This college process is like Christmas season at Wal-Mart. It starts earlier every year, and never when you expect it.
The fear is that if he commits to one of these early admissions/scholarship programs, they usually require a signature that you will cease your college search and guarantee you will take their offer.
I'm not saying it would be right to do, but I'm pretty sure your DS could commit and un-commit to one those early admissions/scholarship programs. I hear of football players committing to colleges all of the time and then changing their minds and switching other schools. Even if he signed a paper your DS is probably under 18 and I don't think his signature means anything. I googled signing contracts under the age of 18 and this showed up:


"Minors (those under the age of 18, in most states) lack the capacity to make a contract. So a minor who signs a contract can either honor the deal or void the contract."

I'm not saying it's right to do. If you accept a scholarship or admission like that and un-commit you are taking that scholarship/admission from another deserving person.
 
frenzy,

This is why you need to know the difference between early admissions (binding) and early decision (non-binding). The scholarship aspect is not binding unless you due EA, unless we are talking about the ICSP.
~ Caveat: I am sure people do what you are saying, but I would think it is very rare.
~~ Additionally, unless something has changed, EAs usually drop Oct/Nov. Rolling admissions are what is dropping now. Rolling is not binding.

For example:
VMI has rolling admissions with early decision...non-binding. A candidate can be offered an ICSP at the interview. He is not on the hook to remove himself from applying to more colleges, because it is not an EA offer from VMI. However, if he takes that ICSP, he must remove their name from the national HSSP (at least from what I know).

This becomes a problem for many candidates because unless VMI is their top choice, than they are risking a lot, because they do not know if they will get admitted to their number 1 and/or a national ROTC scholarship to that school.

My kids got those offers too in aug/sept. It was their plan B, and none of the offers were binding. It became binding in May when and if we paid the deposit for matriculation, or when they stated their commitment date, but that was usually April. Colleges offer a lot of admissions offers with merit. They know statistically how many in the past will say yes.
~ VT offers about 10K admission offers with the expectation of 4K matriculating.

Every year, this idea of taking away a spot from someone else comes up. There typically are 2 camps. 1 that believes it is taking a slot, the other believing that if they were truly that competitive they would have been given the slot in the 1st place, thus, it is not taking anything away from them.

That is just how the system works. My DS's 1st congrat letter came from UMiami in Oct. It came with 100K in merit and the honors program. There was no drop date on the acceptance letter, except for a respond by Feb., if he did not they would pull it. My belief is that date existed for their Regular Decision deadline. This was the safety of all of his safeties. It is in my opinion he didn't take anything away from anyone by holding on to it until he heard from his number 1.

Just me, but if my child was Dad2020's I would make sure that he does not sign any EA offers, and do not take an ICSP offer. You can still walk if offered an ICSP because any SA appointment will release you from a ROTC scholarship. The reason why not to take that ICSP offer is that some college admissions do not talk to ROTC. This can leave you with a scholarship, but a denial letter from admissions.

I would, however, strongly recommend him to finish those college applications. It is okay impo to accept any and all ED/RD offers. Just like it is fine to accept any and all ROTC HSSP offers.
~ If you look at the stats for ROTC offers, the bulk don't really drop for many more months.
~ Use the search tab here and you will see many posters that apply for ROTC and SA. Many will state "I have my scholarship", just waiting to see if I get an appointment.

If you are truly concerned about the binding issue, contact the FA office at the college, or when they do their ROTC interview ask the PMS there when they ask if you have any questions.
~ I know of a poster a long time ago here that their child got a very nice scholarship, it was their plan B school. They got an appointment. They called the college in the spring and told them that they would be attending an SA, but worried about any injuries that may occur between that time and the school year starting. The school told them, just pay the deposit, and we will hold the offer until 30 days prior to the school year starts.
 
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Pima is spot on. Hang in there, this is a long ride. Don't panic. The ride for Navy might last until March or April. Have a solid Plan B and C at least. Read the fine print of any of these offers so you know what scholarships can and cannot be used for, what it commits him to and what he has to do to maintain any scholarships. Really understand if a school is offering early decision or admission as more and more schools are using these as carrots. Heck, you can always request that any offer is modified to include release for a SA or if he does not receive an ROTC scholarship to that school. Whats the worst they say... No. Back where you started. I bargained plenty of my athletic scholarships with stipulations like skiing, surfing, study halls, etc (yes some athletic depts get that specific with the rules) so why not do it for other scholarships.

And Frenzy, athletic stuff is totally different. What you see signed at ceremonies is just ceremony. There is much more to the athletic side with signatures and commitments. It DOES commit folks once they (or under 18) their parents co-sign on a National Letter of Intent. Verbal stuff means 0. But a pen to paper does have major implications about transferring, sitting out, etc.
 
Yeah. He is 18 and a senior. He was offered a place at two of his plan C schools. Both have honor programs. About a dozen have offered to waive his application fees, and we've had phone calls to the house from various professors now. His friends are snatching up offers and he is afraid they will be gone and he will end up having to settle for a lesser aid package at a B or C school. So not just the loss of the dream, but the debt issues raises its head. I'll follow the advice here and tell him to follow-up, but not sign anything. He hasn't been asked for any money yet.
 
It is frustrating for everyone with the waits and unknowns. DS wanted only USNA. He had been to STEM, Summer Seminar, and got a candidates invite. We made three very long trips to Annapolis, and he was sure. But because of the unknowns, he applied to nine, yes nine, backups. It was horrible. Still hoping for USNA. He got waitlisted and found out in JUNE there was no spot. He was fully qualified. Just have good solid backup plans you can afford, and pray for the best.
 
It is not "dirtbag" website but DoDMERB website.

DD just finished answering the questions on the "Dirtbag" website. ;) She is a Naval Academy, West Point & Air Force Candidate and working the Plan B's, C's, D's etc.

Is it okay for parents to accompany to the DoDMERB physical?
 
Is it okay for parents to accompany to the DoDMERB physical?[/QUOTE]
To add to informe - if your DD is under 18, most places will require you to be there; well at least our clinic is requiring it. If she is over 18, I think it is her choice and most places will not care whether you are there or not. In that light, you are the one that knows her medical history well, she should already have that form covered well before showing up to her exam.
 
Dang, I'm very proud of him and I had to post. My kid did exactly as he said he would do!

He declared to me in mid July that he would to be done before his School year and his Season started, so he was not scrambling around. He said his goal was to complete EVERYTHING; the USNA Admissions Portal requirements + all (4) Nomination packages by Aug. 31st, 2015

Whelp, He completed the USNA Application Portal on Friday 8-28-15 at noon. He did the VP NOM application Sunday afternoon and completed both US Senators with uploads posted Sunday evening. Finally, our Congressman was sent his Nomination packaged by overnight this afternoon.

The kid was invited to the Sept. 17th-19th CVW a few weeks ago and is looking forward to shadowing with minimal disrupting and/or trying not be a dork for his Plebe hosts.

Now comes the hard part I suppose, .......the waiting :)
 
@murfthesurf
Your son is motivated, great. Hope it works out for him, good luck. Are you going for the CVW too? My son is going for the CVW the same day.
 
Thanks informe and FalconsRock. We asked the optometrist office and they were okay with my DD taking the eye exam on her own. We called up the office for the physical exam and they said we had to have an adult accompany her since she was under 18.

My DD really enjoyed her CVW visit last spring. Just a tip... we read too late on the forums that some homemade cookies might have been a nice thank you gift for the hosting student who "drags" candidates around. Otherwise, dd would of made some of her signature cookies! :rolleyes:
 
Update: DS braces came off on Tuesday and we just got back from DoDMERB physical. All parts of application are in! Now, the focus moves on to Nom packets and taking the ACT and retaking the SAT. BGO interview waits! PS. no urine test at the physical, advised was taken out some time ago.
 
@murfthesurf
Your son is motivated, great. Hope it works out for him, good luck. Are you going for the CVW too? My son is going for the CVW the same day.
My son is going for his overnight that same weekend. He will be flying out there by himself. I hope he gets a good look at Navy. He attended all three summer sessions and really seemed to like them all. Hopefully this visit and West Points overnight will give him some clarity.
 
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