Class of 2015 - Mailbox Stalkers Club

[CandidateInSD]

Yes you can accept it and still hold out for the SA. Appointment. Personally, I can't think of a downside, perhaps someone else can shed light on that.

 

[aglages]

I believe you can accept the scholarship, then if you get accepted to the Academy you can get out of the scholarship.

Correct. You can walk away from the AFROTC if you are appointed to the USAFA.

Someone else please verify this, but if it is true there is no down side to accepting the scholarship.

It is true. There is no downside. Accept the AFROTC scholarship by whatever deadline is required, and you can walk away from the AFROTC if/when you are appointed to the USAFA.
Good Luck!

 

[Mattsmom2015]

Correct. You can walk away from the AFROTC if you are appointed to the USAFA.

It is true. There is no downside. Accept the AFROTC scholarship by whatever deadline is required, and you can walk away from the AFROTC if/when you are appointed to the USAFA.
Good Luck!

Yes, I agree. I have read and re-read the paperwork. It says you can accept the scholarship even if appointed to the Academy. Once you sign on the dotted line at the Academy the ROTC scholarship is revoked. Our son will be accepting his ROTC scholarship (which has a deadline of 5/31). We are still very hopeful for an Academy appointment, but he still has to secure a Plan B.

 

[raider11]

Correct. You can walk away from the AFROTC if you are appointed to the USAFA.

It is true. There is no downside. Accept the AFROTC scholarship by whatever deadline is required, and you can walk away from the AFROTC if/when you are appointed to the USAFA.
Good Luck!

Right, so it appears this works for AFROTC, is this advice still good with Army ROTC, Don'y want to see myself locked into something here.

Danke!

 

[Dad]

You might want to ask this question in the ROTC discussion. There are tons of AROTC people there to answer this question.

 

[aglages]

Right, so it appears this works for AFROTC, is this advice still good with Army ROTC, Don'y want to see myself locked into something here.

The Army & Navy ROTC and SA programs both allow you to accept your ROTC scholarship and walk away from it if you are appointed to either of their SAs. Just make sure you adhere to the deadlines for accepting each. Good Luck!

 

[ima-gina-tion]

waiting with everyone else! I feel bad though, I need to declare my roommate for next year monday...don't want to screw over one of my friends because I don't know if I'll be staying or leaving next year...

 

[otterpop]

Haha I know the feeling, just tell them and ask them if they still want to room. This year is going to be very competitive my friend.

 

[AFAApplicant]

I am in the same boat as everyone else in here...still wating for that BFE. But, I have been accepted to Georgia Tech and received an AFROTC scholarship, so my plan B is not looking too bad.

I am from Maryland fyi.

Wow, a lot of people accepted to Tech here. I'm in the exact same boat. I received early admission to Tech and just received my AFROTC scholarship. Still waiting though... The wait is unbearable.

 

[Dad]

Hopefully this week will be more active with BFEs.

 

[KS3]

The wait really is tough. Especially since the expected arival of the BFE has been constantly pushed back.

 

[falconfamily]

The wait really is tough. Especially since the expected arival of the BFE has been constantly pushed back.

Hey, isn't it nice to know you are not alone. Just look at the stats for some of the people waiting - it's not because you are not a good candidate, it's just a very tough year. If it is any consolation, it appears that we are about 2.5 weeks from when we should be hearing back. In the meantime, we can at least celebrate what certainty we have in our college and ROTC acceptances.

Keep your chin up!

 

[vamom]

Just curious....has anyone been accepted to Virginia Tech Engineering on this thread who plans to attend VT as "plan b"? That is DS's plan B.

 

[MAINEiac]

The wait really is tough. Especially since the expected arival of the BFE has been constantly pushed back.

Yup, in the same boat here. Its the most nerve racking thing I've ever waited through. Keep your head up, It wont be long now!

 

[Mattsmom2015]

And the waiting coninues....

I actually had a dream last night that DS received a letter telling him he had received an appointment. Funny though, it was not a BFE just a letter. It did make me smile though when I woke up. Then I realized it was just a dream and that dreaded knot came back to my stomach!

The waiting is just horrible.....



Sorry the title is supposed to say "continues"....

 

[AFBound12]

I actually had a dream last night that DS received a letter telling him he had received an appointment. Funny though, it was not a BFE just a letter. It did make me smile though when I woke up. Then I realized it was just a dream and that dreaded knot came back to my stomach!

The waiting is just horrible.....



Sorry the title is supposed to say "continues"....

I had the same dream except it was my ALO telling me I received my appointment! I can't even explain the happiness I felt when I was called....and then I woke up. haha But this is my second time enduring the wait and knowing what to expect does nothing to help. If nothing it makes it worse!

But for now we all will have to just grin and bear it!

 

[falconchic88]

That's right.....but the VP noms come from the VP and are attached to a person. No one is qualified and "in the running" without a nom attached to their name. That includes the VP noms....they are awarded to "real applicants" and then submitted to the AFA. Again, I could be wrong but I think I'm right on this one! It can be confusing....we are a non-military family and DS is our first SA applicant so learning curve has been steep! This forum has been most helpful. And as I always like to say, if you are a candidate reading this, I hope you get the BFE!

The VP noms aren't attached to a person by the actual VP. The candidates apply for a VP nom thru the VP, but the applications actually go directly to the individual Academies, and they select who will receive a VP nom. Many times the VP nom is used for someone who may live out of the country, and therefor doesn't really have a MOC, or there may be some very highly qualified candidates, that for whatever reason didn't receive a MOC nom for that particular Academy(say if the MOC only gives out one nom per individual, and they have applied to multiple academies) so the Academy awards them a VP nom, as long as they applied for it. This is why the Academies stress to apply to every nom source you are eliglibe for. It seems like the VP noms are some of the last to be awarded because the academies wait to put the puzzle together and see how to best utilize the VP nom to help make up the strongest class.

 

[Pima]

falcon,

Even if you live outside the US you usually do have an MOC because you still have to be a resident somewhere. For ex: a military child or an embassy child living in Germany will have an HOR (home of record). That is the MOC they apply to for the MOC. They aren't stuck with only a VP.

After yrs of being here, the people I have seen on this forum that got the VP all lived stateside. The majority of them that get this route is because the SA wants them badly and this is the last slot they can pull them in with; which you eluded to in your post.

People when they are new to this system and have yet to find this site, traditionally make the most common error. They hear that their state is so competitive and that they talk to only give 1 nom (spread the wealth), that they do not throw their name into all of the hats. They usually pick one and the VP.

As you stated for a candidate like that they now reduce their chances, especially if the MOC gives principal. That now ties the hands of the AFA on how to get them in. Thus, the SA will utilize the VP to get them in.

You are correct apply for every nom source that you can.

 

[falconchic88]

PIMA, I actually know of 2 personally that lived outside of the U.S. (non military parents had job out of country) that rcvd the VP nom. They did not rcv a MOC nom. But thats in a span of 20 yrs, so agree, doesn't happen often.

I'm holding out for a dear dear friend that recvd an LOA to USAFA this year, but 2 Noms to USNA and none to USAFA (I truly think the MOCs were under the mistaken impression that USAFA would "find' her a nom )

 

[vamom]

The VP noms aren't attached to a person by the actual VP. The candidates apply for a VP nom thru the VP, but the applications actually go directly to the individual Academies, and they select who will receive a VP nom. Many times the VP nom is used for someone who may live out of the country, and therefor doesn't really have a MOC, or there may be some very highly qualified candidates, that for whatever reason didn't receive a MOC nom for that particular Academy(say if the MOC only gives out one nom per individual, and they have applied to multiple academies) so the Academy awards them a VP nom, as long as they applied for it. This is why the Academies stress to apply to every nom source you are eliglibe for. It seems like the VP noms are some of the last to be awarded because the academies wait to put the puzzle together and see how to best utilize the VP nom to help make up the strongest class.

Falcon, thank you for your comment. That actually is what I was trying to say...that ALL noms are attached to a name...even if it is a VP nom and it is at the end of the process. In other words, no one (based on my understanding), NO ONE gets into a SA without being attached by name to a NOM. If I am wrong, I will stand corrected. But I have read that comment many times on these boards by very senior folks and moderators AND have been told that by a former SA administrator. But having said that, I'm still learning!