Remaining Appointments?

I have a friend who received his non-select/rejection letter. Is there an area of appointments where if someone declines their appointment, that he could potentially receive one?
 
usafacellist2026 said:
Can they just give me the TWE already... I'm tired of waiting 🤦‍♀️
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I hear yeah. . . With so many other options, coaching calling asking for commitments. . . I am finding it difficult holding off Plan B & C while remaining hopeful that Plan A will materialize.

If anyone from admissions is following this page, pls look for opportunities to announce sooner next year.
 
moho said:
Maybe I'm misreading, but what are you implying here?
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Not implying, but stating. I would not want my son to be led by someone who would welcome defeat, rather than stay in the fight.

Posting such a comment is unbecoming of a future leader...in the military or elsewhere. Do you want your commanding officer to give up a fight because it's hard? Do you want to be led by CEO that is not willing to fight for market share? Do you want to be part of an operating team led by a cardiac surgeon who throws in the towel if there is a complication during the procedure?

Everyone who has not yet received a decision feels the same emotions. The choice is whether to exhibit leadership qualities of perseverance and resilience, or post publicly of an eagerness to accept defeat. The poster asked for a TWE, but have they actually considered if they ultimately received an appointment? This is a public forum, not a private social media or text group. How will it reflect on the USAFA academy if anyone and everyone can read such comments and know that those qualities are part of the USAFA class of ----.

My comments might come off as harsh, but many wise and experienced posters and moderators on this forum have given advice on navigating this time of uncertainty. Be patient, unplug, work on Plan B, etc. So, for the umpteenth time...listen to their advice.
 
Ragnar2026 said:
Not implying, but stating. I would not want my son to be led by someone who would welcome defeat, rather than stay in the fight.

Posting such a comment is unbecoming of a future leader...in the military or elsewhere. Do you want your commanding officer to give up a fight because it's hard? Do you want to be led by CEO that is not willing to fight for market share? Do you want to be part of an operating team led by a cardiac surgeon who throws in the towel if there is a complication during the procedure?

Everyone who has not yet received a decision feels the same emotions. The choice is whether to exhibit leadership qualities of perseverance and resilience, or post publicly of an eagerness to accept defeat. The poster asked for a TWE, but have they actually considered if they ultimately received an appointment? This is a public forum, not a private social media or text group. How will it reflect on the USAFA academy if anyone and everyone can read such comments and know that those qualities are part of the USAFA class of ----.

My comments might come off as harsh, but many wise and experienced posters and moderators on this forum have given advice on navigating this time of uncertainty. Be patient, unplug, work on Plan B, etc. So, for the umpteenth time...listen to their advice.
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Great take.

All of our goals should align under wearing a uniform one day. Not just to get into USAFA, USMA, etc.

Should Plan A work out, that's fantastic. If not, go Plan B, C, or D and keep striving for your goals.

"Do what you can for as long as you cam, and when you finally can't you do the next best thing. You back up, but you don't give up."
-Chuck Yeager
 
FlyFalcon said:
I do understand their frustration. While it could be viewed as a loss, I would look at it as ready to move forward with other plans.
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FrenchFries said:
I hear yeah. . . With so many other options, coaching calling asking for commitments. . . I am finding it difficult holding off Plan B & C while remaining hopeful that Plan A will materialize.
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Ragnar2026 said:
Posting such a comment is unbecoming of a future leader...in the military or elsewhere. Do you want your commanding officer to give up a fight because it's hard? Do you want to be led by CEO that is not willing to fight for market share? Do you want to be part of an operating team led by a cardiac surgeon who throws in the towel if there is a complication during the procedure?

Everyone who has not yet received a decision feels the same emotions. The choice is whether to exhibit leadership qualities of perseverance and resilience, or post publicly of an eagerness to accept defeat. The poster asked for a TWE, but have they actually considered if they ultimately received an appointment? This is a public forum, not a private social media or text group. How will it reflect on the USAFA academy if anyone and everyone can read such comments and know that those qualities are part of the USAFA class of ----.
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I'm just waiting for the TWE's to finalize my Plan B. It took me a few months to come to a realization that it wasn't me who wanted to attend an SA, it was my parents. If I received an acceptance via FFS, Prep School, or USMMA, then they'd pressure me to take the acceptance. If I got a TWE, however, it would make it easier to attend a civilian school since I wouldn't be "throwing away an opportunity".

@Ragnar2026 I never received a nomination, therefore no appointment. I've considered all the outcomes of any form of "acceptance". Ever since I've expressed an interest in flying fighters I've received nothing but constant pressure from my parents to attend an SA. Everything I've done is to please them, not myself. I don't see myself succeeding in the military. However, my parents think it's the only way to straighten my life out. All of the emotional and verbal abuse has been excused as "If you can't handle us, you can't handle the military". It took me a while to realize that no one should be treated the way I was. I want the TWE so I can have the pressure lifted off of my shoulders and do what I want to do in life. Don't imply I give up easily. If anything I've done the opposite.
 
Ragnar2026 said:
Not implying, but stating. I would not want my son to be led by someone who would welcome defeat, rather than stay in the fight.

Posting such a comment is unbecoming of a future leader...in the military or elsewhere. Do you want your commanding officer to give up a fight because it's hard? Do you want to be led by CEO that is not willing to fight for market share? Do you want to be part of an operating team led by a cardiac surgeon who throws in the towel if there is a complication during the procedure?

Everyone who has not yet received a decision feels the same emotions. The choice is whether to exhibit leadership qualities of perseverance and resilience, or post publicly of an eagerness to accept defeat. The poster asked for a TWE, but have they actually considered if they ultimately received an appointment? This is a public forum, not a private social media or text group. How will it reflect on the USAFA academy if anyone and everyone can read such comments and know that those qualities are part of the USAFA class of ----.

My comments might come off as harsh, but many wise and experienced posters and moderators on this forum have given advice on navigating this time of uncertainty. Be patient, unplug, work on Plan B, etc. So, for the umpteenth time...listen to their advice.
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Stay in the fight? Stay in what fight. It’s out of her control. Exhibiting a positive hopeful attitude last year did me no favors, and this year expecting defeat is actually helping me focus on AFROTC and academics. How she feels about something she has no control over has zero bearing on the quality of an officer she would be or the leader that she is today. None of your examples reflect that.

I think it will reflect fine on “the USAFA Academy”. I don’t think anyone cares how an 18-19 year old starts to feel. You don’t know her, nor do I. So passing on these grandiose judgments helps no one.
 
Ragnar2026 said:
Not implying, but stating. I would not want my son to be led by someone who would welcome defeat, rather than stay in the fight.

Posting such a comment is unbecoming of a future leader...in the military or elsewhere. Do you want your commanding officer to give up a fight because it's hard? Do you want to be led by CEO that is not willing to fight for market share? Do you want to be part of an operating team led by a cardiac surgeon who throws in the towel if there is a complication during the procedure?

Everyone who has not yet received a decision feels the same emotions. The choice is whether to exhibit leadership qualities of perseverance and resilience, or post publicly of an eagerness to accept defeat. The poster asked for a TWE, but have they actually considered if they ultimately received an appointment? This is a public forum, not a private social media or text group. How will it reflect on the USAFA academy if anyone and everyone can read such comments and know that those qualities are part of the USAFA class of ----.

My comments might come off as harsh, but many wise and experienced posters and moderators on this forum have given advice on navigating this time of uncertainty. Be patient, unplug, work on Plan B, etc. So, for the umpteenth time...listen to their advice.
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Calm down, dude…
 
Do not lose hope, it is not over until it is over. I post this only for informational purposes. My DS (USNA 25) received his USNA appointment December 23rd and received his USAFA appointment on May 31st. Do not lose hope. Stay in the fight, move forward and stay positive. A lot do not qualify to even be in your shoes so be happy to be in the fight. NEVER GIVE UP!
 
Old Enlisted Marine said:
Do not lose hope, it is not over until it is over. I post this only for informational purposes. My DS (USNA 25) received his USNA appointment December 23rd and received his USAFA appointment on May 31st. Do not lose hope. Stay in the fight, move forward and stay positive. A lot do not qualify to even be in your shoes so be happy to be in the fight. NEVER GIVE UP!
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I probably would have a heart attack if I got an appointment that late into the cycle. Congratulations on your son's success!
 
Ragnar2026 said:
Not implying, but stating. I would not want my son to be led by someone who would welcome defeat, rather than stay in the fight.

Posting such a comment is unbecoming of a future leader...in the military or elsewhere. Do you want your commanding officer to give up a fight because it's hard? Do you want to be led by CEO that is not willing to fight for market share? Do you want to be part of an operating team led by a cardiac surgeon who throws in the towel if there is a complication during the procedure?

Everyone who has not yet received a decision feels the same emotions. The choice is whether to exhibit leadership qualities of perseverance and resilience, or post publicly of an eagerness to accept defeat. The poster asked for a TWE, but have they actually considered if they ultimately received an appointment? This is a public forum, not a private social media or text group. How will it reflect on the USAFA academy if anyone and everyone can read such comments and know that those qualities are part of the USAFA class of ----.

My comments might come off as harsh, but many wise and experienced posters and moderators on this forum have given advice on navigating this time of uncertainty. Be patient, unplug, work on Plan B, etc. So, for the umpteenth time...listen to their advice.
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nobody is welcoming defeat. Just venting about the fact that we have to wait for so long while opportunities to align priorities for next year are also dwindling while we wait. For example, I'm a college student who needs to figure out living situations for next year if not admitted. Almost everyone I know of already has a lease while I am still unable to sign one until I know for sure of my status on USAFA. That being said I am still very happy to be in the mix and at least have a shot at an appointment. Just a waiting game like always
 
FrenchFries said:
I hear yeah. . . With so many other options, coaching calling asking for commitments. . . I am finding it difficult holding off Plan B & C while remaining hopeful that Plan A will materialize.

If anyone from admissions is following this page, pls look for opportunities to announce sooner next year.
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Are you a recruited athlete?
 
usafacellist2026 said:
I'm just waiting for the TWE's to finalize my Plan B. It took me a few months to come to a realization that it wasn't me who wanted to attend an SA, it was my parents. If I received an acceptance via FFS, Prep School, or USMMA, then they'd pressure me to take the acceptance. If I got a TWE, however, it would make it easier to attend a civilian school since I wouldn't be "throwing away an opportunity".

@Ragnar2026 I never received a nomination, therefore no appointment. I've considered all the outcomes of any form of "acceptance". Ever since I've expressed an interest in flying fighters I've received nothing but constant pressure from my parents to attend an SA. Everything I've done is to please them, not myself. I don't see myself succeeding in the military. However, my parents think it's the only way to straighten my life out. All of the emotional and verbal abuse has been excused as "If you can't handle us, you can't handle the military". It took me a while to realize that no one should be treated the way I was. I want the TWE so I can have the pressure lifted off of my shoulders and do what I want to do in life. Don't imply I give up easily. If anything I've done the opposite.
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I appreciate you being real and saying this, your mental health comes first 🙏
 
prav777 said:
I appreciate you being real and saying this, your mental health comes first 🙏
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Thank you. This applies to anyone, not just me.

Don't let others expectations of you influence your decisions. I've been doing that for a majority of my life and it did not bode well. I've been doing everything I can to make my parents proud of me, but nothing seemed to do. It took a while before I realized that I needed to make myself proud of my accomplishments instead of focusing on others approval.

Now, don't get me wrong. A SA or any way of entering the military would be a wonderful opportunity for anyone. This isn't a post about why you shouldn't attend a SA, it's my personal experience throughout the process. It's not for everyone. That's the truth. I would love to serve my country but when looking into other paths I found that the military isn't for me. I appreciate everyone who's offered me advice on this subject, as well as advice on my application in general.

After accepting that a civilian school is where I see myself, a huge weight was lifted off of my shoulders. I realized that it's my life, not my parents, and I choose how I want to spend it.

To anyone reading this, know that it's your life. Your future. Your decisions. Don't let anyone pressure you into making decisions that will impact your life. People can give you advice, and you can choose whether or not to take it. It's all your decision.
 
Folks,

Allow me to extend a little "old guy" perspective. I decided I wanted to go to the AFA in 1966. I was six years old and lived in England. The base my father was at had F-100D fighters. I LOVED that jet (STILL DO) and wanted to fly them. LONG story short, a neighbor gave me a tour of his jet and I had a ball! I wrote USAFA and asked how do I get in since I had to go to USAFA, Columbus, and Luke to fly F-100s. I still have the response letter, and the catalog (5x7) that was sent to me.

Imagine how I felt when I lived at USAFA...went to Air Academy High School, and wanted to go to USAFA.

And received a TWE.

I was fortunate to be offered a chance at a prep school; I chose NWPS. And I was successful the next year. And then I spent four years in academic misery getting my a** beat day and night by the dean (a really nice guy, a friend of the family, etc). I barely made it, but I did graduate.

And after that, in a career spanning 33 years, not ONCE was I asked where I went to school. I was asked: "Are you a good pilot? Are you the best? Who's better than you? Can you do the mission? and things like that. NEVER "where did you get your commission?" I flew with some amazing people in my career; in three different weapon systems. MOST didn't go to USAFA but who cared? We only cared if the other guy or gal could do the mission, did they have my six, were they there?

If you receive an offer, my congratulations to you!!! If you do not, I've been there, done that, got the T-shirt. Life isn't over!!! There are SO many options available to you!!! Do NOT get into a pity party. CQ Brown, who my classmate "Fingers" Goldfein told me is a superb guy, is NOT an academy grad. Okay, he flew lawn darts which is a downgrade (Eagles FOREVER) but...if Fingers says he's awesome, trust me, he is! And he is NOT an academy grad!!

DO NOT get locked into an "oh, woe is me...I didn't get in...now what" mentality. You can always try again, or press ahead with Plan B and be HUGELY successful!!

The SKY is the LIMIT! Select Fifth Stage Burner, put the HUD into a 90 Degree vertical departure, and press onward!!!!

Steve
 
usafacellist2026 said:
Thank you. This applies to anyone, not just me.

Don't let others expectations of you influence your decisions. I've been doing that for a majority of my life and it did not bode well. I've been doing everything I can to make my parents proud of me, but nothing seemed to do. It took a while before I realized that I needed to make myself proud of my accomplishments instead of focusing on others approval.

Now, don't get me wrong. A SA or any way of entering the military would be a wonderful opportunity for anyone. This isn't a post about why you shouldn't attend a SA, it's my personal experience throughout the process. It's not for everyone. That's the truth. I would love to serve my country but when looking into other paths I found that the military isn't for me. I appreciate everyone who's offered me advice on this subject, as well as advice on my application in general.

After accepting that a civilian school is where I see myself, a huge weight was lifted off of my shoulders. I realized that it's my life, not my parents, and I choose how I want to spend it.

To anyone reading this, know that it's your life. Your future. Your decisions. Don't let anyone pressure you into making decisions that will impact your life. People can give you advice, and you can choose whether or not to take it. It's all your decision.
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You sound as though you have come to some very important realizations! I commend you and your willingness to share your thoughts. I pray your parents will be supportive of whatever path you choose. This whole process of applying to service academies is extremely difficult and demanding, and it takes a very specific individual to commit 4 years at the service academy and another 5+ years in service at the age of 17 or 18 years. And even if you are that type of person there is bound to be uncertainty. Good people with common sense tend to be successful in life no matter the path they take; no doubt you will be one of those....
 
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