ROTC Physical Fitness Assessment

Should I take it again?


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JamesMetz

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I got

54 pushups
47 curl ups
7:30 mile time

As a male should I take it again? I completed this test within the much more difficult service academy CFA, so I was a little tired out and my scores aren't as good as they could be, but I don't want to take it again if it's not worth it.

My SAT is a 1540 and my GPA is a 4.36 weighted and 3.8 unweighted–which I think is on the higher end.
 

frontseat

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If you think you can do better, then most definitely. We are pretty similar in terms of physical fitness and grades, and I was accepted, but it never hurts to do better.
 

clarksonarmy

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Which ROTC are you applying for. If you are submitting your score for Army ROTC you should certainly retake it. Army ROTC asks you to take a PFT, not a CFA. In fact, if you look at the additional information tab on the application website I think you will see that they encourage you not to submit your CFA score to fulfill the requirements for a PFT score.
 

JamesMetz

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Yes I am applying for an Army ROTC scholarship. My test giver basically timed me doing each event for two minutes and took down how many I did after one minute and after two minutes, and submitted my one minute results to ROTC.

I did my mile last–after two minutes of sit ups and pushups, basketball throws, shuttle runs, and pull ups, so I was super drained by that time.
 

rayrotc

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You should've done these two tests separately. CFA is difficult and you certainly don't want to take 2 tests in a day
 

JamesMetz

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You should've done these two tests separately. CFA is difficult and you certainly don't want to take 2 tests in a day

Yeah I realize that in hind sight. It just felt very redundant, so I tried to consolidate, but I guess I'll try to take it again.
 

Dckc88

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I agree with all above, think of the difference in your mindset for push-ups and sit-ups if you know you are only going 1 minute, the pace is way different. And as you said, your mile time will improve when you haven't worn yourself out before. Definitely do it soon, getting it in before the second board is important, and soon it will be difficult to get interviews scheduled as PMS's will be on break. Good luck to you and keep us posted!
 

JamesMetz

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I agree with all above, think of the difference in your mindset for push-ups and sit-ups if you know you are only going 1 minute, the pace is way different. And as you said, your mile time will improve when you haven't worn yourself out before. Definitely do it soon, getting it in before the second board is important, and soon it will be difficult to get interviews scheduled as PMS's will be on break. Good luck to you and keep us posted!

I've already completed my PMS interview at Chapel Hill University and I think it went really well. My interviewer said he would love to see me in his battalion. I'm not sure if that's just something they all regardless of how the interview goes or not, but it seemed sincere. Thanks for the insights.
 

JamesMetz

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If you think you can do better, then most definitely. We are pretty similar in terms of physical fitness and grades, and I was accepted, but it never hurts to do better.

Do you mean you got roughly around the same scores as I did on the PFA?
 

xyzabc123

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From the Army ROTC portal:

"We do not use the same test as USMA’s Candidate Fitness Assessment (CFA) for several reasons but ease of administration is a primary reason. While some of the events are similar/same between the CFA and PFA, it is in the applicant’s best interest to do them separately if possible. There are many reasons for this. Push-ups and “Modified Sit-Ups” (essentially our Curl-Up) are tested over two minutes. We only use a one minute test. Inputting a two-minute push-up or curl-up score as our PFA score is wrong and a good way to have the test not considered (at least). Additionally, the strategy for a two-minute test should be different than a one-minute test. The CFA testing sequence has the candidate doing more aerobic and anaerobic events before they even get to the ‘similar’ PFA events. That additional activity may lower the overall PFA score."
 

JamesMetz

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From the Army ROTC portal:

"We do not use the same test as USMA’s Candidate Fitness Assessment (CFA) for several reasons but ease of administration is a primary reason. While some of the events are similar/same between the CFA and PFA, it is in the applicant’s best interest to do them separately if possible. There are many reasons for this. Push-ups and “Modified Sit-Ups” (essentially our Curl-Up) are tested over two minutes. We only use a one minute test. Inputting a two-minute push-up or curl-up score as our PFA score is wrong and a good way to have the test not considered (at least). Additionally, the strategy for a two-minute test should be different than a one-minute test. The CFA testing sequence has the candidate doing more aerobic and anaerobic events before they even get to the ‘similar’ PFA events. That additional activity may lower the overall PFA score."

Yes I agree. I just want to clarify that my test giver marked down my score of each assessment after one minute and after two minutes and correctly submitted my one minutes scores to ROTC and two minutes scores to the service academies. I'm not trying to rig the system. Thanks for your insight.
 

Dckc88

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Yes but your score could be much higher doing the PFA, just something to think about.
 
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