Tips on Meeting the Weight Reqs?

flyblu

flyblu

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Hello,

So, I applied for AFROTC and got disqualified because of SAT scores. However, I am not quitting so I am re-applying again for Spring 2020.

So, I have a little problem. I am about 4 feet and 11 inches tall and I weigh 85.5 pounds. I would love to meet the requirements for AFROTC.

Are there any tips on gaining weight?

I would love any ideas.

I am currently going to eat 4 meals per day and exercise 4/5 times per week.

Thanks!
 
flyblu said:
Hello,

So, I applied for AFROTC and got disqualified because of SAT scores. However, I am not quitting so I am re-applying again for Spring 2020.

So, I have a little problem. I am about 4 feet and 11 inches tall and I weigh 85.5 pounds. I would love to meet the requirements for AFROTC.

Are there any tips on gaining weight?

I would love any ideas.

I am currently going to eat 4 meals per day and exercise 4/5 times per week.

Thanks!
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Drink Ensure Plus or Boost...the high calorie one. Apparently that’s what they give them at the Academies when cadets are underweight.
 
I agree with everyone buy Ensure it is not only the type of drink USAFA will give to cadets, but they do it at Summer Field Training for AFROTC cadets. I know that bc our DS had to be taped due to barely meeting the min wt. They gave him 1 every a.m. and made sure that he drank it. (He was warned if he dropped as little as 2 lbs that they would have had to medically turn him back from SFT)

Off topic, but...
flyblu said:
So, I applied for AFROTC and got disqualified because of SAT scores. However, I am not quitting so I am re-applying again for Spring 2020.
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I am not sure what you mean re-apply spring 2020. Although you may be disqualified now, isn't the an SAT and ACT you can take in Dec?
That should allow you to meet the last boards for this yr., which meet in the spring. It is not like you will open up a whole new file for the later boards, they will just update your SAT scores. Nothing in your senior yr academically or ECs are taken into account, which is why they only update the test scores.

If you are saying in the spring of 2020 for FY2021, than those applications will not open up until this yrs boards close, so basically if awarded if you meet the HSSP requirements and awarded a scholarship you will not be able to activate it until your sophomore yr since it would be FY2021.

Keep taking that exam and the ACT as much as you can afford to do so. The reason is two fold, obviously 1 is the scholarship, but the 2nd is as an AFROTC cadet to be offered an SFT slot, you will have to take an exam sim. to the ACT. It is called the AFOQT. You can only take it 2x. The score is part of the selection process. Thus, if you have test anxiety, taking these exams in college may get you over that aspect.
~ The AFOQT score will also be used later on for your career field selection. The higher the score, the better off you are when it comes to getting your number 1 choice.
 
OBTW what kind of exercise regimen are you doing? Cardio, weight training, pilates, a mix of everything? Have you gone to a local gym, such as the Y or Planet Fitness and talked to a trainer?
~ Planet fitness is no annual contract and I think 10 bucks a month. Ask for it as your Xmas or Hanukah gift (if you celebrate them).

Where are you standing regarding being taped?
~ Just like being over the max weight, under the min weight they can tape you. If the taping is within regs they can waive you, at least is that what they did for our DS when he was a freshmen. He has a runners build, so for his height and weight they taped him, where he met the standards. As a sophomore he lost some more weight due to a flu he couldn't shake, plus mid-terms, which is when they gave him the fair warning of he could not lose more weight since he was teetering on the bottom requirement for BMI.

Additionally, they are not going to give you a DoDMERB exam until you are selected for a scholarship or contract with AFROTC. Since you are not competitive yet due to your SAT, you would have months to tack on that weight.
Kids get tripped up on DoDMERB paying attention to only 1 aspect, and never realizing that there is something far worse in their medical history that will cause issues regarding DQ or remedials
~ I do not have enough fingers, toes and pet claws within my own home to count when every yr you see these boards littered with the same type of questions.
  1. When I was 14, my doc prescribed an inhaler for me (preventative), and I still have an active prescription. I have never used it, I am on the Volleyball/soccer/name the sport team. Do I have to acknowledge it?
  2. Vision.
  3. Nut allergies. Same like the inhaler. I can eat peanuts to a point, but I am allergic, what now?
  4. Concussions --- I know you are a female, but my DD's sport was riding horses (western/barrel racing). She was thrown every yr at least 1x. Luckily she only got 1 concussion, but if she had multiple concussions, that would have thrown up flares
Those are just the most popular ones, and impo, probably bc until kids walk down this path, they never realized that what they have lived with their entire life with no issues is now an issue if they want to serve in the military. Just like you and your weight. It won't stop you from being accepted to a traditional college, getting a job at the Pentagon as a government employee, but will impact you from serving Active Duty in the military.

Just saying if you have other medical issues that occurred after the age of 13, than be prepared to acknowledge this fact. I am not talking you get the flu every yr., 10 stitches because you run hurdles in track and fell, or you broke your finger (no surgery required), etc like the avg kid.

Food for thought so you can be prepared when you are awarded the scholarship and have to take the DoDMERB exam.
Good luck
 
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Pima said:
I agree with everyone buy Ensure it is not only the type of drink USAFA will give to cadets, but they do it at Summer Field Training for AFROTC cadets. I know that bc our DS had to be taped due to barely meeting the min wt. They gave him 1 every a.m. and made sure that he drank it. (He was warned if he dropped as little as 2 lbs that they would have had to medically turn him back from SFT)

Off topic, but...

I am not sure what you mean re-apply spring 2020. Although you may be disqualified now, isn't the an SAT and ACT you can take in Dec?
That should allow you to meet the last boards for this yr., which meet in the spring. It is not like you will open up a whole new file for the later boards, they will just update your SAT scores. Nothing in your senior yr academically or ECs are taken into account, which is why they only update the test scores.

If you are saying in the spring of 2020 for FY2021, than those applications will not open up until this yrs boards close, so basically if awarded if you meet the HSSP requirements and awarded a scholarship you will not be able to activate it until your sophomore yr since it would be FY2021.

Keep taking that exam and the ACT as much as you can afford to do so. The reason is two fold, obviously 1 is the scholarship, but the 2nd is as an AFROTC cadet to be offered an SFT slot, you will have to take an exam sim. to the ACT. It is called the AFOQT. You can only take it 2x. The score is part of the selection process. Thus, if you have test anxiety, taking these exams in college may get you over that aspect.
~ The AFOQT score will also be used later on for your career field selection. The higher the score, the better off you are when it comes to getting your number 1 choice.
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So a bit of a backstory... I took the SAT twice! Each time I got a low score. I am not sure if I should do it a third time. I used my SAT scores to apply for the Fall term of 2019. I have not applied for the Spring term of 2020.

I am unable to make a new application yet.

I might do the SAT again. I am sure if I want to waste my parents' money on it again for another low score.

Thank you for the information.
 
I am confused. Are you in college currently and graduated HS in 2018?
 
Pima said:
OBTW what kind of exercise regimen are you doing? Cardio, weight training, pilates, a mix of everything? Have you gone to a local gym, such as the Y or Planet Fitness and talked to a trainer?
~ Planet fitness is no annual contract and I think 10 bucks a month. Ask for it as your Xmas or Hanukah gift (if you celebrate them).

Where are you standing regarding being taped?
~ Just like being over the max weight, under the min weight they can tape you. If the taping is within regs they can waive you, at least is that what they did for our DS when he was a freshmen. He has a runners build, so for his height and weight they taped him, where he met the standards. As a sophomore he lost some more weight due to a flu he couldn't shake, plus mid-terms, which is when they gave him the fair warning of he could not lose more weight since he was teetering on the bottom requirement for BMI.

Additionally, they are not going to give you a DoDMERB exam until you are selected for a scholarship or contract with AFROTC. Since you are not competitive yet due to your SAT, you would have months to tack on that weight.
Kids get tripped up on DoDMERB paying attention to only 1 aspect, and never realizing that there is something far worse in their medical history that will cause issues regarding DQ or remedials
~ I do not have enough fingers, toes and pet claws within my own home to count when every yr you see these boards littered with the same type of questions.
  1. When I was 14, my doc prescribed an inhaler for me (preventative), and I still have an active prescription. I have never used it, I am on the Volleyball/soccer/name the sport team. Do I have to acknowledge it?
  2. Vision.
  3. Nut allergies. Same like the inhaler. I can eat peanuts to a point, but I am allergic, what now?
  4. Concussions --- I know you are a female, but my DD's sport was riding horses (western/barrel racing). She was thrown every yr at least 1x. Luckily she only got 1 concussion, but if she had multiple concussions, that would have thrown up flares
Those are just the most popular ones, and impo, probably bc until kids walk down this path, they never realized that what they have lived with their entire life with no issues is now an issue if they want to serve in the military. Just like you and your weight. It won't stop you from being accepted to a traditional college, getting a job at the Pentagon as a government employee, but will impact you from serving Active Duty in the military.

Just saying if you have other medical issues that occurred after the age of 13, than be prepared to acknowledge this fact. I am not talking you get the flu every yr., 10 stitches because you run hurdles in track and fell, or you broke your finger (no surgery required), etc like the avg kid.

Food for thought so you can be prepared when you are awarded the scholarship and have to take the DoDMERB exam.
Good luck
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About the medical history part, my vision is 20/20, I do not take any medications, and don't have asthma. However, I haven't got a check up in a while and will get one soon.

I usually do at home exercises and run. I am planning on swimming and going to the gym. Maybe get my bicycle fixed so that I can use that as well.

I have family history with certain diseases though... will that affect it as well?

Thanks for the information.
 
There is no spring term 2020 you can apply for as an HSSP applicant. They are all 4 yr. awards. There is no 3 1/2 yr awards as a HS applicant.
There are cadets that apply for what is called the ICSP, but that occurs once in college.
~ If memory serves me correctly this might be what you are thinking about. In essence, they were not awarded a scholarship as a HS. sr. They got to the AFROTC unit, busted their arse within the unit and got good grades, they were supported by the cadre and received starting their spring semester the scholarship. I do not know if these were tied to the actual college ROTC unit or HQ AFROTC, but they are the only ones that I have ever known to get a 3 1/2.

Have you taken the ACT? It is a different format..

No, family history is not an issue.

Personally for me, I would say if you are only doing cardio, than that may be the reason why you are not gaining weight. As a woman, if I want to lose 5 lbs fast, than I am doing only cardio due to caloric burn. You are suppose to rotate cardio with weight lifting. Muscle weighs more than fat. It is easier to burn fat than muscle.
~ Google exercises to gain muscle that you can do at home. It sounds like you have no fat if you are that light.
~~ I don't know what the min is...are you 6 or 9 lbs off from the min? If so, I would also say are you weighing yourself on your house scale? I would love to weigh at the doctors office what I weigh at home!!!! However, the fact is that my scale at home is not calibrated like at the docs office or the gym, so I am always 3-4 lbs heavier there than at home.
~ This is also why they tape if you are near a weight issue. As I stated earlier my DS has been taped because he was too thin. I want to say at one point he was 5'10 and 140 +/- pounds. They waived him. My DH that served 21 yrs ADAF had to be taped annually starting at age 25 for the opposite reason. He was getting near the max for weight, but when they taped him since his BMI was well within standards.
 
Pima said:
There is no spring term 2020 you can apply for as an HSSP applicant. They are all 4 yr. awards. There is no 3 1/2 yr awards as a HS applicant.
There are cadets that apply for what is called the ICSP, but that occurs once in college.
~ If memory serves me correctly this might be what you are thinking about. In essence, they were not awarded a scholarship as a HS. sr. They got to the AFROTC unit, busted their arse within the unit and got good grades, they were supported by the cadre and received starting their spring semester the scholarship. I do not know if these were tied to the actual college ROTC unit or HQ AFROTC, but they are the only ones that I have ever known to get a 3 1/2.

Have you taken the ACT? It is a different format..

No, family history is not an issue.

Personally for me, I would say if you are only doing cardio, than that may be the reason why you are not gaining weight. As a woman, if I want to lose 5 lbs fast, than I am doing only cardio due to caloric burn. You are suppose to rotate cardio with weight lifting. Muscle weighs more than fat. It is easier to burn fat than muscle.
~ Google exercises to gain muscle that you can do at home. It sounds like you have no fat if you are that light.
~~ I don't know what the min is...are you 6 or 9 lbs off from the min? If so, I would also say are you weighing yourself on your house scale? I would love to weigh at the doctors office what I weigh at home!!!! However, the fact is that my scale at home is not calibrated like at the docs office or the gym, so I am always 3-4 lbs heavier there than at home.
~ This is also why they tape if you are near a weight issue. As I stated earlier my DS has been taped because he was too thin. I want to say at one point he was 5'10 and 140 +/- pounds. They waived him. My DH that served 21 yrs ADAF had to be taped annually starting at age 25 for the opposite reason. He was getting near the max for weight, but when they taped him since his BMI was well within standards.
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Oh, I see. I am not planning to apply for the HSSP anyway.

No, I have not taken the ACT. Maybe I will take that one instead. Math is not my strongest subject.

Yes, I am 85.5 pounds currently, female, and 4 feet and 10/11 inches.

Thanks for the reply!
 
flyblu said:
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So a bit of a backstory... I took the SAT twice! Each time I got a low score. I am not sure if I should do it a third time. I used my SAT scores to apply for the Fall term of 2019. I have not applied for the Spring term of 2020.

I am unable to make a new application yet.

I might do the SAT again. I am sure if I want to waste my parents' money on it again for another low score.

Thank you for the information.
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Have you done any prep work? Practice tests? Free Khan Academy online preparation? SAT/ACT test taking is, at least in part, a skill you can learn.
 
kinnem said:
Have you done any prep work? Practice tests? Free Khan Academy online preparation? SAT/ACT test taking is, at least in part, a skill you can learn.
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I have... unfortunately, still not good enough/
 
If you're a senior in high school and your SAT score needs a lot of work, it may be too late. If I was in your position, I would focus on gaining weight (I'm starving after a swim workout), grades, and getting into a good college (some don't need the SAT/ACT). If you don't get into the college you prefer, kill it at your local college/university and transfer. At some point, join an ROTC college program.
 
SunnyCal said:
If you're a senior in high school and your SAT score needs a lot of work, it may be too late. If I was in your position, I would focus on gaining weight (I'm starving after a swim workout), grades, and getting into a good college (some don't need the SAT/ACT). If you don't get into the college you prefer, kill it at your local college/university and transfer. At some point, join an ROTC college program.
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That is the plan actually. I will be going to community college and applying during college. Maybe I will retake the standardized tests later, but I am focusing on getting good grades in college.

The problem is I can't make a new application because I applied for the HSSP scholarship before and was disquieted. So, trying to figure how do it now without the scholarship.
 
@flyblu You'll need to meet the requirements even without a scholarship, regardless of the reason for DQ.
 
If you visit Calorie King (dot com) you will see a "Tools" drop-down. Click on the how many calories should you eat graphic.
1. Input height, weight, age, sex and mash the "GO" button.
2. Input your activity level
3. Scroll down.
4. Select "Lose", "Maintain", or "Gain" to see what your caloric intake should be.

For someone as small as you, maintaining your weight only requires about 1,350 to 1,550 calories per day. To gain, you need at least 1,850 to 2,050 calories per day.

It is math. You add 3,500 calories in a week, and you will gain about a pound.
 
THParent said:
If you visit Calorie King (dot com) you will see a "Tools" drop-down. Click on the how many calories should you eat graphic.
1. Input height, weight, age, sex and mash the "GO" button.
2. Input your activity level
3. Scroll down.
4. Select "Lose", "Maintain", or "Gain" to see what your caloric intake should be.

For someone as small as you, maintaining your weight only requires about 1,350 to 1,550 calories per day. To gain, you need at least 1,850 to 2,050 calories per day.

It is math. You add 3,500 calories in a week, and you will gain about a pound.
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I didn’t have to use any tools to figure it out. I gained about 50 with pizza, wings and beer.
 
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