USNA Class of 2028 Waiting and Speculating

NavyHoops said:
As an old timer, when everything was in black in white, it was kind of nice. I am actually not that old, but that is how it was for us. We applied and waited. We walked to the mail box and back daily. All we could do. I will say, parental involvement was drastically different then as well. I am not sure any of our parents could have told you much about the app, the process or anything. It was even pretty rare to have a parent read our essay. When DODMERB came, we asked them how old we were when we broke our wrist, but that was about it.
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How would you even find out all the information you need in pre-internet days?
 
IronmanDaremo said:
On the right of the portal, it will say something about decision/offer, or something like that? And you then email/notify that you are interested.

I don't know for sure. Unlike other parents, I actually think I saw my kid's portal in real life maybe 2 or 3 times when wanted to show me something throughout the 2 cycles he did?? Otherwise, it was just text photos of the screen letting me know status when I asked how things were going. I never actually navigated anything on that site. It was my kid's, not mine.
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Yeah we never saw it either. While both of my kids share everything (and I do mean everything - often to the shock of their friends) when it came to applying to jobs, schools, whatever - we were not read on to those programs.
 
You had a checklist in the application packet.

I actually did my physical when I applied while active duty with the Army. Gave the different docs the form to fill out, sent them in.

The application itself was pretty straight forward. Trickiest thing for me was recommendations and my transcript as I had been out of school a few years, and I was in Germany for my duty station.
 
mike1979 said:
How would you even find out all the information you need in pre-internet days?
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You followed the packet that was mailed to you. You mailed it in. Then they mailed the next part. The application was nearly the same as it is today. We didn’t have access to all the fluff that brings panic and anxiety of today. If someone got an LOA we probably didn’t know that unless they went to our high school. I didn’t even know LOAs existed until I met my sponsor brother. Wasn’t a thing we worried over. We got told we would know by 3/31 so we just waited for the letter in the mail or that magical phone call. We also were not nearly as informed about what we were entering. Attrition was much much higher than it is today.
 
mike1979 said:
I didn’t grow up in US, you’ll have to explain this joke to me
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Ah sorry - Grateful Dead thing. Pre internet you had a few options to find out what they played at a particular concert - go to the concert/know someone who did, call run dead or get a tape of the show.

Added bonus, to get tickets if you wanted to see a run of shows you either slept in front of a ticketron or mailed the bands offices a money order and a self addressed stamped envelope. Super old school!
 
OldRetSWO said:
It was all in the catalog - a one to two hundred page book with lots of pictures and info including admissions information.
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I loved the catalog. For those who need a visual of the “old” paper based application and catalog. A lot of the application was scantron. I kept my application (yes, photo copied mine before I mailed it in…just in case it got lost in the snail mail).

Edit: the only “online” portion was a new system (first class to get this) that had a time stamp next to the application document name…so you knew it was received.
 

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nmabq said:
Ah sorry - Grateful Dead thing. Pre internet you had a few options to find out what they played at a particular concert - go to the concert/know someone who did, call run dead or get a tape of the show.

Added bonus, to get tickets if you wanted to see a run of shows you either slept in front of a ticketron or mailed the bands offices a money order and a self addressed stamped envelope. Super old school!
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Kind of random...

When I was nine years old my dad took me to a Rush concert because he feared that they wouldn't tour again (he was right) and he wanted me to see them. He wanted to "camp out" for tickets so my brother and I would have the experience, but my mother wouldn't let us. Now that's not really a thing, so I feel robbed. Of course, I imagine my nine-year-old experience camping out with my dad and my 20-year-old brother would have been much different than the people camping out for Grateful Dead tickets in their heyday.

To this day, that concert was the coolest concert I've ever seen.
 
Thegirlinthefireplace said:
Kind of random...

When I was nine years old my dad took me to a Rush concert because he feared that they wouldn't tour again (he was right) and he wanted me to see them. He wanted to "camp out" for tickets so my brother and I would have the experience, but my mother wouldn't let us. Now that's not really a thing, so I feel robbed. Of course, I imagine my nine-year-old experience camping out with my dad and my 20-year-old brother would have been much different than the people camping out for Grateful Dead tickets in their heyday.

To this day, that concert was the coolest concert I've ever seen.
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That’s a great memory! Camped out more more than a few Rush shows!

Edited to add, good luck!
 
mike1979 said:
Yes, and the way are issues are known is by folks reporting them
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> Admissions was well aware of issues with this years system upgrades long before it became a daily topic on SAF. I've seen numerous reports and have been trying to preach patience for months. Repeated calls just make the problem worse.

Roo555 said:
Let’s pretend the mythical unicorn of an LOA does appear….where is it on the portal? I’m just curious.
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> I always love this question... I have no idea now an LOA appears on the Candidate portal, but can tell you that I have never heard of any Candidate missing the notice of the LOA (or an Offer of Appointment--the question of how you will receive notice of an Appointment is sure to come up in the next 6 months..it always does).

mike1979 said:
How would you even find out all the information you need in pre-internet days?
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NavyHoops said:
We didn’t have access to all the fluff that brings panic and anxiety of today
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+ 1 Hoops... SAF has some great info, and some great people, but like anything you read on the internet, you need to take everything with a grain of salt. Everything you really need to know is on the Admissions website and application portal ..SAF sometimes gets bogged down with "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin" type questions where people ask and argue about trivia type questions trying to understand every aspect of the Admissions process, trying to figure out things that they can't control. I've been a BGO for about 20 years, have regular contact with the Admissions Office and and I can tell you - I don;'t know everything, and certainly don't need to. I do know enough to recognize that there are very dedicated folks working in the Admissions Office, both civilian and military, and they are doing the best job they can to put together that next years class.

* A little trivia comment -- I still have the last hard copy USNA Admissions Catalogue that Admission circulated to BGO's sitting on my office bookshelf. 2008-2009.
 
justdoit19 said:
Serious question: does this settle your mind? Does it change anything for you? You will most likely still have a 6-7 month wait. What is your outlook now that your son is CPR?
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Yes it does. The folks that are reviewing applications can now make whatever decision they want about my DS application. Give or not give LOA, admit or reject him, etc... This is up to them and I am completely content with whatever outcome would be. My goal was not to get an application that was submitted earlier get stuck on some glitched out server in "incomplete" state hence preventing it from being considered by the admission committee. It is important to note that my son is not a recipient of any "Insipire" or "CVW" programs. Hence earlier submitted application, completed in the best way possible is his only chance.
 
mike1979 said:
Yes it does. The folks that are reviewing applications can now make whatever decision they want about my DS application. Give or not give LOA, admit or reject him, etc... This is up to them and I am completely content with whatever outcome would be. My goal was not to get an application that was submitted earlier get stuck on some glitched out server in "incomplete" state hence preventing it from being considered by the admission committee. It is important to note that my son is not a recipient of any "Insipire" or "CVW" programs. Hence earlier submitted application, completed in the best way possible is his only chance.
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I wanted to like this so much….but misinformation is still presented. I don’t think there is any hope of changing Mikes mind.

*a candidate can be offered an LOA despite an ‘incomplete’ application. It’s happened before. The application does NOT have to be complete to receive an LOA. In fact, a condition of an LOA *could* be to compete their application. Candidate facing portal does not have to show CPR to be offered an LOA.

*inspire and/or CVW has NO BEARING on an offer of appointment. They are tools used to spread interest in USNA. There is no advantage to attending as far as the application goes. It’s for exposure for the candidate.

*there is no factual evidence that the IT glitch (which is simply the candidate’s view of a checkmark. Not USNA’s. IOW, the glitch is not that USNA doesn’t have the candidates materials) had any affect at all on the actual movement of applications. In fact, the opposite is true, as contacting admissions confirmed receipt.

And CPR does nothing to assist or change the wait he has. Or help with ED decision he has to make.

BTW, this post is mostly for future applicants, and/or readers experiencing ‘the glitch’. To correct misconceptions presented in @mike1979 ’s post.
 
mike1979 said:
It is important to note that my son is not a recipient of any "Insipire" or "CVW" programs.
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Inspire is a targeted program selected by Admissions, but CVW is not and is not an indicator of competitiveness or a successful application. In fact, Admissions would like to get as many candidates as possible to attend a CVW , particularly if they applied and didn't get selected to NASS. If DS wants to attend a CVW, he should ask his BGO and BGO will pass on Admissions. The CVW does have space limitations.
 
justdoit19 said:
I wanted to like this so much….but misinformation is still presented. I don’t think there is any hope of changing Mikes mind.

*a candidate can be offered an LOA despite an ‘incomplete’ application. It’s happened before. The application does NOT have to be complete to receive an LOA. In fact, a condition of an LOA *could* be to compete their application. Candidate facing portal does not have to show CPR to be offered an LOA.

*inspire and/or CVW has NO BEARING on an offer of appointment. They are tools used to spread interest in USNA. There is no advantage to attending as far as the application goes. It’s for exposure for the candidate.

*there is no factual evidence that the IT glitch (which is simply the candidate’s view of a checkmark. Not USNA’s. IOW, the glitch is not that USNA doesn’t have the candidates materials) had any affect at all on the actual movement of applications. In fact, the opposite is true, as contacting admissions confirmed receipt.

And CPR does nothing to assist or change the wait he has. Or help with ED decision he has to make.

BTW, this post is mostly for future applicants, and/or readers experiencing ‘the glitch’. To correct misconceptions presented in @mike1979 ’s post.
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You also forgot to add that I am bad parent and you are sorry for my son.
 
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