What are my chances of getting NROTC-MO Scholarship?

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  1. soph4

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    I am a senior in high school. I have a 4.23 cumulative GPA (3.87 unweighted) and have been a member of the National Honor Society since 2016. I am in the top 10% of my class. I just want to keep my options open because I applied for AROTC and if I don't get NROTC-MO I'll apply for PLC or OCC Law. I want to do JAG Corps.
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    -I also train with Marines at RSS Oceanside two times a week and I made sure to mention that in my interview. As for the PFT, I didn't do that well. I know there are lower standards for women but I have been sick and I've had a cough for the past two months but I still showed up and did the PFT. I plan on retaking the PFT to get a higher score. If my score still isn't that competitive, will my extracurriculars, leadership, academics, etc. make up for it? Besides, I would be training for the next four years. I'm in good shape–I just didn't do as well as I hoped. But he was very impressed with me in my interview. And the other applicants that were there with me had no idea what they wanted to do in the Marine Corps. My recruiters noticed that and went on and on about how I want to do JAG Corps and how I have it "all figured out". I know this probably doesn't mean anything but it was just an observation. I'm very outgoing and the applicants with me were having trouble conversing with the recruiters. I just feel like my personality is more desirable than the other applicants but again, I understand that's not a reason to give me a scholarship instead of the others. All responses are appreciated. Thank you!
     
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    Sorry I forgot to include ACT Score: 30
     
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    kinnem Moderator 5-Year Member

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    It probably depends on how bad your PFT score was. Be sure to retake soon so it has time to get in through the bureaucracy before the next board. Other than the PFT I would say you were a strong candidate. One thing that caught my eye was you don't seem to stick with an athletic endeavor very long. I'm sure there were logical reasons that I hope you explained in the interview if this came up.
     
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    One thing I'm not clear on -- and it's been awhile -- is if JAG through NROTC is truly a viable path. The only ones I've known have either come through PLC-LAW or OCC.

    One plus is that you do have a variety of experience. As kinnem stated, however, we don't know your PFT score/class or how the variety of athletic experience will figure in. That said, my athletic son had no formal school athletic experience and still rec'd a 4 year national scholarship on an early board his freshman year of college.
     
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    rocatlin you beat me to the punch. I was looking that up and as near as I can tell the path is PLC-Law or OCC-Law. You have to complete Law School before you enter either program.

    https://www.marines.com/becoming-a-marine/officer/marine-corps-law-program.html

    I don't pretend to know the nuances of the path, but from a quick search it does not appear that NROTC-MO undergrad is a viable option.
     
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    I asked in my interview if could defer my commitment and go to law school before and he said that it was definitely possible.
     
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    So does OCC provide substantial tuition assistance for both undergrad and law school?
     
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    It’s not possible as far as I know. You will commission and go to TBS and select an MOS. I don’t think things have changed based upon the links I read. Once active duty you can apply for the different law school options. I have had several friends do this path.

    Agree the scholarship will depend a lot on PFT score.
     
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    Yeah it has been hard to stick with just one sport for all of high school because of the other extracurriculars I have been doing. Most of the sports required a time commitment of every day after school which conflicted with several of my other activities. But I made sure to mention in the interview that I am physically active and how I get exercise other than athletics at my school because that was a question he asked.
     
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    Wow I forgot another thing sorry... I have an internship with the Board of Supervisors in Downtown San Diego. It's mostly organizational tasks but I work for Supervisor Gaspar and her staff. I go every week after school.
     
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    soph4: you may find this blog useful. It is dated but addresses some aspects of your questions.
    http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=103562

    Heck, you live in one of the centers of USMC and military populations in the U.S. I would bet you could call USMC Recruit Depot, Naval Station Coronado or even Camp Pendleton and find a active duty Marine lawyer who would be happy to speak to you about the ins and outs of the process. You could also find a Navy lawyer at many of the bases in the area also. Relatively speaking there are very few Marines on this forum and as far as I know there are no former USMC lawyers. Speaking to someone who is active duty and doing the job you aspire to will be the most helpful in answering your questions.
     
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    Great, thank you so much! I appreciate your help.
     
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    FYI, the USMA Field Force Representative for my area in Northern California is an Army JAG officer (retired), and also owns a law practice in Modesto. I have known him over 10 years, and I'm pretty sure that he would be willing to chat with you about a JAG career. I believe he still also teaches military law seasonally at West Point.

    Please PM me if you wish to reach out to him and I will provide you with his contact information.
     
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    From the Marine Officer website and the JAG section:

    https://www.marines.com/becoming-a-marine/officer/marine-corps-law-program.html

    JUDGE ADVOCATE PATHS


    Whether you seek your commission as an undergraduate, as a law school student or as an attorney, there is a program for you.

    Platoon Leaders Class–Law
    This option is open to first- and second-year law students and to college seniors who have been accepted for full-time study at an ABA-accredited law school.

    Officer Candidate Course–Law
    Third-year law students and bar-certified lawyers begin their training at the Officer Candidate Course.

    To learn more about serving your nation and the Marine Corps as a Judge Advocate, speak with an Officer Selection Officer.


    NROTC-MO is centered on producing officers for the Fleet/MAGTF (Ground officers and aviators)
     
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    Yeah that makes sense. Thank you for your response. The people interviewing me as well as the recruiters seemed to think NROTC-MO would be a good fit but maybe I should start talking to an OSO.
     
  17. soph4

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    Thank you, sir! That is a great idea.