Chances for Army ROTC Scholarship?

[bg4spam]

Thanks for taking the time to look through this. I haven’t done my fitness assessment yet but the numbers on here are my estimates for when I do it. Everything else is up to date.

GPA (unweighted): 4.0
GPA (weighted): 5.56

ACT: 36 (with a 36 in all four sections, not sure if that matters in the points system)

Fitness Assessment:
1-min Push-ups: 40
1-min Curl-ups: 40
1-mile run: 5:45

Several leadership positions (class president, president of another club, 2 other minor leadership positions, involved in a couple other clubs).

Sports:
JV basketball (9-11). Varsity cross country (11-12).

What are my chances of being offered a scholarship if I apply by the first deadline? Also, how much do the essays count?

And if anyone has an idea about my chances of being accepted to the ROTC UNIT (I know that admission to the SCHOOL is completely separate) at the following schools, please let me know.

1. Stanford
2. Duke
3. UT Austin
4. UNC
5. Virginia
6. UPenn
7. Florida

Thank you for any help you can provide and let me know if I need to include other details!

 

[kinnem]

Looks like they are all tough schools to get into. How confident are you that you will be accepted to at least one of them?

 

[SWB1972]

You look like a wonderful candidate. Nail your essays, interview and your fitness and you have a terrific package. The lens is broad and encompassing during review.

Our DD was awarded 4 year Army and 4 year Navy for 2023 - Nurse Option. Army has a really smooth process. Her Army offer came 1st round and was rec’d in late October. That said, she chose Navy.

She was matched to her top choice schools in order for both Army & Navy. You can also reassign as you find out where you are accepted. She had a few of the same schools you have designated. She was matched to UPenn for both Army and Navy with her offer. She also was accepted to UPenn ..... but on Ivy Day which is very late... FYI. E.D. You would know in December. That is a binding contract, however. If you do not win the scholarship you are committed to going there and paying out of pocket. That is dicey for many families. E.A. Does not carry that risk but is not an option at UPenn as it is with some of your other goal schools. Likely you know all of that.

You do need to designate a state school in your line up. That does not mean that is where you will be matched.

Good luck!

 

[bg4spam]

Looks like they are all tough schools to get into. How confident are you that you will be accepted to at least one of them?

I’m in-state for Florida and near-100% sure I’ll get in there. If not there, I’ll most likely get into UT Austin, and I have a decent chance at some of the others.

 

[SWB1972]

Looks like they are all tough schools to get into. How confident are you that you will be accepted to at least one of them?

I’m in-state for Florida and near-100% sure I’ll get in there. If not there, I’ll most likely get into UT Austin, and I have a decent chance at some of the others.

Your grades and scores are terrific! Your academic scores are much higher than the averages of winning Army ROTC scholarships. Our DD got a chart last year when she went to her interview that broke the averages out. You look great and are significantly higher than averages. The interview, essays and fitness are big pieces as well.
The process of college admission is pretty crazy as you will discover. We were forever amazed by who got in where and who did not. It often makes little sense. Acceptance to UT-Austin is very difficult out of state. I believe it is something like 4%. Chances of getting into UPenn are higher. Go for it! Apply apply and give each app your all.

 

[rayrotc]

Dude your chances are really high! That’s all I’m gonna tell you

 

[kinnem]

Keep working on your fitness. You're not bad, but it is a competition and there is always room for improvement.I don't know what the essays count, but you should treat them as though the scholarship absolutely depends on them.

 

[GoCubbies]

Thanks for taking the time to look through this. I haven’t done my fitness assessment yet but the numbers on here are my estimates for when I do it. Everything else is up to date.

GPA (unweighted): 4.0
GPA (weighted): 5.56

ACT: 36 (with a 36 in all four sections, not sure if that matters in the points system)

Fitness Assessment:
1-min Push-ups: 40
1-min Curl-ups: 40
1-mile run: 5:45

Several leadership positions (class president, president of another club, 2 other minor leadership positions, involved in a couple other clubs).

Sports:
JV basketball (9-11). Varsity cross country (11-12).

What are my chances of being offered a scholarship if I apply by the first deadline? Also, how much do the essays count?

And if anyone has an idea about my chances of being accepted to the ROTC UNIT (I know that admission to the SCHOOL is completely separate) at the following schools, please let me know.

1. Stanford
2. Duke
3. UT Austin
4. UNC
5. Virginia
6. UPenn
7. Florida

Thank you for any help you can provide and let me know if I need to include other details!

Talk to the ROO at your schools and see which AROTC unit has some influence in admissions decisions. There's a wide range of influence out there- even at schools with <10% admit rate.

I think Duke is one of the schools is favorable 4-year ROTC scholarship winners, especially if you go ED. Duke's ED deadline is 1 Nov which is juuuust slightly after you'll find out if you get a scholarship from the first board. I'm assuming (though not necessarily a good thing when it comes to Army processes) the timeline is the same in 2019 as it was in 2018 from my DD's experience. I know she found out her status from the first board before 1 Nov. Take this advice with a grain of salt. My DD looked at Duke briefly in the application process. She never applied and didn't list in her AROTC app.

Another school to check out is Vanderbilt. Plus, they have ED2 which the deadline is 1 Jan I think which gives you some time to apply if you find out favorable results from the first board in Oct. My DD did put Vandy on her AROTC list. Ultimately, she didn't apply because she got into her top civilian school via EA in mid-December. The ROO told my daughter they do have an influence in the admissions decision process.

 

[bg4spam]

Talk to the ROO at your schools and see which AROTC unit has some influence in admissions decisions. There's a wide range of influence out there- even at schools with <10% admit rate.

I think Duke is one of the schools is favorable 4-year ROTC scholarship winners, especially if you go ED. Duke's ED deadline is 1 Nov which is juuuust slightly after you'll find out if you get a scholarship from the first board. I'm assuming (though not necessarily a good thing when it comes to Army processes) the timeline is the same in 2019 as it was in 2018 from my DD's experience. I know she found out her status from the first board before 1 Nov. Take this advice with a grain of salt. My DD looked at Duke briefly in the application process. She never applied and didn't list in her AROTC app.

Another school to check out is Vanderbilt. Plus, they have ED2 which the deadline is 1 Jan I think which gives you some time to apply if you find out favorable results from the first board in Oct. My DD did put Vandy on her AROTC list. Ultimately, she didn't apply because she got into her top civilian school via EA in mid-December. The ROO told my daughter they do have an influence in the admissions decision process.

Thank you a lot for this information. I was planning on applying to Stanford REA since it’s non-binding, but Duke is currently my top choice. Unfortunately, I won’t be able to go there unless I have an ROTC scholarship there. So, I think I might put Duke as my #1 choice, wait for the scholarship decision, then apply ED to Duke if I’m given an AROTC scholarship there. Otherwise, I’ll just do REA to Stanford. I hadn’t even thought of doing this, so thank you a ton for that idea!

Also, I’m pretty new to this, so what exactly is an ROO? I’d be interested in talking to them about their influence in school acceptance, but first I need to know what an ROO is haha. Thanks for any more help you can give.

 

[bg4spam]

Keep working on your fitness. You're not bad, but it is a competition and there is always room for improvement.I don't know what the essays count, but you should treat them as though the scholarship absolutely depends on them.

Thanks. I’ve looked around but can’t find the maxes for the different sections. For example, I wouldn’t want to keep working on improving my 1-mile time if 5:45 is already a 100. Do you know where I could get this info?

 

[SWB1972]

Keep working on your fitness. You're not bad, but it is a competition and there is always room for improvement.I don't know what the essays count, but you should treat them as though the scholarship absolutely depends on them.

Thanks. I’ve looked around but can’t find the maxes for the different sections. For example, I wouldn’t want to keep working on improving my 1-mile time if 5:45 is already a 100. Do you know where I could get this info?

Keep working on your fitness. You're not bad, but it is a competition and there is always room for improvement.I don't know what the essays count, but you should treat them as though the scholarship absolutely depends on them.

Thanks. I’ve looked around but can’t find the maxes for the different sections. For example, I wouldn’t want to keep working on improving my 1-mile time if 5:45 is already a 100. Do you know where I could get this info?

I’d say you are ready to contact a unit near you to sit down and discuss the information you seek in an information gathering effort. The AROTC units are very open to meeting with interested young people. Our DD did this at A huge school a mile from our house with a huge AROTC unit. They rolled out the red carpet for her and were extremely welcoming. She didn’t even apply there but they were wonderful. That is also the unit where she had her official interview a few weeks later.

The forum can be very helpful but you will benefit from solid accurate information by making contact with a unit.

Your fitness looks super. You have a great shot. Go for it!

 

[BAMA ROTC]

And if anyone has an idea about my chances of being accepted to the ROTC UNIT (I know that admission to the SCHOOL is completely separate) at the following schools, please let me know.
1. Stanford
2. Duke
3. UT Austin
4. UNC
5. Virginia
6. UPenn
7. Florida

You forgot, The University of Alabama ???

 

[jebdad]

If Duke is without a doubt your first choice and you can afford to travel there, do your interview with them. Their AROTC staff communicated a lot with applicants during the admissions process and, if I recall correctly, they ask on their portion of the common app if you are a scholarship winner. It appears the ROTC staff will work with admissions the best they can on your behalf and Duke likes to see those full tuition payors regardless of the source.

 

[curiouslystrongmints]

I’d also look at USC if you’re interested in the west coast, I’ll be starting there in the fall and they have an excellent AROTC program!

 

[CrewDad]

@bg4spam. Unless you screw up your essay and interview your chance of scholarship is excellent. Nevertheless, admission to colleges is a separate matter. I would add Princeton to the list as it is on campus AROTC program vs off campus. Cornell is also on campus. It is vey important to join a program that has on campus presence as the travel to and from program can be challenging with your college schedule and your life style.

With your AROTC Scholarship, comparison is that of a recruited athlete since your AROTC Unit will support your admissions effort to the school you are applying.

I think your only weakness is your leadership stats and in comparison to other top candidates your athletics is on the light side. I’ve seen better in both. But your ACA is stellar and in line with Ivy top 10% and Academy’s top 5% standards.

You have a strong chance for an AROTC Scholarship and a good chance for admissions to your college choices depending on schools. That’s the hardest to predict.

 

[justdoit19]

Thank you a lot for this information. I was planning on applying to Stanford REA since it’s non-binding, but Duke is currently my top choice. Unfortunately, I won’t be able to go there unless I have an ROTC scholarship there. So, I think I might put Duke as my #1 choice, wait for the scholarship decision, then apply ED to Duke if I’m given an AROTC scholarship there. Otherwise, I’ll just do REA to Stanford. I hadn’t even thought of doing this, so thank you a ton for that idea!

Also, I’m pretty new to this, so what exactly is an ROO? I’d be interested in talking to them about their influence in school acceptance, but first I need to know what an ROO is haha. Thanks for any more help you can give.

Something to think about: the possibility of having to pay out of pocket should something happen and you loose your scholarship, IE not clearing the medical part. There are stories of that happening here on the forums and they are heartbreaking. Something to think about.

 

[Day-Tripper]

Looks like they are all tough schools to get into. How confident are you that you will be accepted to at least one of them?

I’m in-state for Florida and near-100% sure I’ll get in there. If not there, I’ll most likely get into UT Austin, and I have a decent chance at some of the others.

Your numbers are very good.

Consider Norwich in beautiful Vermont. If you get ROTC scholarship you'll also get free room & board. With stipends, go to college & get paid for it.

And get out of Florida, experience northern New England winter s & learn to ski!

 

[Herman_Snerd]

To gauge your competitiveness at each of these schools, do you have access to Naviance.com? for my children, they see both from their school and then generally who applied, was accepted/rejected/waitlisted relative to their GPA and test scores. It was very helpful. Also look for webinars or youtube events from each school and ask, ask ask away. In hindsight really I had the details we needed just from those. 3rd path - chat with your guidance counselors at school as they sometimes have a really good finger on the pulse of who gets in/ who gets aid. Lastly, on-site visits and meeting with admissions and touring the schools can be very informative. I'm down here at Duke today, and it always amazes me how spread out this campus is, for example - might not see that on a brochure.

For your competitiveness, it's obvious your academics are outstanding - keep it up and congrats. I would just recommend the following:
intense mock interviewing/ preparing (see threads on the importance of the mock interview), be well dressed, have your paperwork organized, and as others advised continue to work on your PFT scores and ensure your form is correct - again research the right way to do crunches/ pullups so they count. Also, get your applications 100% done including recommendations/ test scores early - by the end of August if you can, so you are considered at the most boards.

In your "typical week" essay I certainly would point out how fitness is a central/ daily theme. Just because with limited sport involvement, it doesn't jump off the page - some of your competitors are captains of 1 or more varsity teams, multiple letter winners, etc. So spell it out for them that you run 5 x per week, hike, etc.

If you have religious involvement or leadership (Please don't reply to clarify - I don' t need to know), I would include that too.
Lastly, to think ahead - look at the branches, roles, and secondary roles (what if you don't get your first choice) of the service branches you are applying to - what would you do, or what would your backup role be if you train and become an officer - start thinking about that now - my DS was offered AROTC, NROTC, and AFROTC scholarships and the roles or backup roles he was most interested in and worst case in each branch ultimately crystallized /drove his decision.

Hope this helps and good luck!