NASS 2016 Q&A Thread

Cerberi said:
If you re-take the CFA and do worse, why would you even submit it? Does USNA need to know that you re-took it. I know the person administering the exam requires a link sent by USNA to submit the score, but does USNA track if they sent out a link and it wasn't used?
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I don't know the answer to these questions but I do think I understand why USNA uses the most recent exam. It's physical fitness. That's something that one has to maintain over time. Imagine someone maxing out everything except for one event in June of their junior year. Then they don't work out for the rest of their year because they're confident. In November of their senior year they take the CFA and get no where near what they got before. They are not the same person they were in June. USNA wants to know what your physical fitness is now, not when you were "in your prime" a couple of months ago at the end of your sports season right before you stopped working out.
 
You are right. As a military member the fitness tests are a measure of fitness (now the argument of how well they do that is another story). At any time you should be able to pass it. The CFA is a measure of fitness to see if you can make it thru the minimal physical demands of Plebe Summer. The PRT is harder and will be what you take as a Mid. There will e plenty of candidates who take the CFA over the summer and then fall out of shape throughout the year. It is not uncommon at all. It makes Plebe Summer harder than it needs to be. It's easier to maintain a certain level than regain it.
 
cajunrouge2021 said:
I don't know the answer to these questions but I do think I understand why USNA uses the most recent exam. It's physical fitness. That's something that one has to maintain over time. Imagine someone maxing out everything except for one event in June of their junior year. Then they don't work out for the rest of their year because they're confident. In November of their senior year they take the CFA and get no where near what they got before. They are not the same person they were in June. USNA wants to know what your physical fitness is now, not when you were "in your prime" a couple of months ago at the end of your sports season right before you stopped working out.
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I don't disagree at all. My comment was more about being pragmatic, my P2B maxed 4 of the six events but thought she could do better on the mile if she took it again (and her coach didn't want her running distances as he thought it hampered her sprinting). I discouraged her from re-taking it based knowing it was unlikely her basketball throw would be any better and might be worse even if her mile had improved. If she had re-taken it and done worse, I doubt it would have found its way into the the USNA system.

I have always been confused if the CFA is truly pass/fail as some argue or if the total CFA score factors into the Whole Person Score. If it is pass/fail, besides pride, what is the purpose of re-taking it if you have passed.

I am sure there are many P2B's that had every intention of working out the past 6 weeks and 'tomorrow' was always the day to start and they are in for a shock next week.
 
NASS Session 3 is well underway. Hopefully mature nature will cooperate for outdoor activities. What activities are planned on the last day and what time is the closing ceremonies ? DS has a late afternoon flight home.
 
In some cases, CFA results MAY be briefed to the Admissions Board for a few reasons:
(1) The scores are truly superb, that it is warranted in favor of the candidate. This includes the overall assessment or portions thereof (i.e. PRT aspects).
(2) The candidate does not have a strong athletic activity background, therefore, more "weight" is placed on the CFA.

So the answer is "it depends." For most candidates, it is a check-in-the-box item, but for SOME candidates, the CFA might have other implications. As with the whole admissions process, you have no idea what is briefed to the Admissions Board....the ball is in each candidate's court to decide whether to better their scores or not.

For non-athletes, the CFA is likely to be scrutinized even more...so it behooves you to hit a grand slam on it to eliminate any doubt!
 
USNABGO08 - Thank you for that clarification. I had always wondered when I started seeing it was P/F in earlier threads.
 
It is P/F with regards to the physical qualification. However, as explained above, it COULD be used for further amplification.
 
More pictures of session 3 would be greatly appreciated!!! Am sure they are enjoying it...thanks!!
 
Does anyone know what time should NASS section 3 closing ceremony end please? Thanks
 
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