JOHNKIM1883

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Hey, everyone. Since the Army ROTC scholarship is set to release results from the 2nd board around February 1st, I was thinking about doing an ROTC scholarship megathread for all branches. This way, all of the seniors applying for the ROTC scholarship can relay potentially helpful information to prospective future candidates so that they can get a better feel for the application process and what is expected.

Below is essentially a College Confidential-esque fill in the blank template that people can post as they receive news regarding the status of their scholarship. Just copy the text below, fill in the information, and submit. Although this information will take 5-10 minutes to complete, I believe that it will be an invaluable tool for students in future years who can locate a single post in this forum regarding ROTC scholarship recipient statistics as opposed to searching for bits and pieces of information at a time.

DISCLAIMER: I understand that boards vary from year to year and even within the same year due to the variation in the application pool and other factors. This is also self-reported and constrained to this forum, so there is undercoverage.

See next post for template.

 

JOHNKIM1883

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Status: Received / Did Not Receive
ROTC Classification: Army / Navy / Air Force
Board: 1st / 2nd / 3rd
Scholarship Type: 4yr / 3yr AD / 2 yr ECP / Type if Navy / Did Not Receive /etc

Demographics (Optional):
  • Gender: Male / Female
  • Ethnicity / Race:
Academic Information:
  • SAT: Composite (Reading/Math)
  • ACT: Composite (English/Math/Reading/Science)
  • Unweighted Cumulative GPA: x.yz / 4.00
Activities (Athletics):
  • Only list what is on the portal
  • Athletics Event X (Grade Level(s) of Participation)
  • Athletics Event Y (Grade Level(s) of Participation)
  • Athletics Event Z (Grade Level(s) of Participation)
  • ETC.
Activities (Extracurricular):
  • Only list what is on the portal, include awards
  • Extracurricular Activity X (Grade Level(s) of Participation)
  • Extracurricular Activity Y (Grade Level(s) of Participation)
  • Extracurricular Activity Z (Grade Level(s) of Participation)
  • ETC.
Awards:
  • Only list what is on the portal or uploaded to portal
  • Award X
  • Award Y
  • Award Z
  • ETC.
Schools of Intent:
  • School X (Received / Did Not Receive)
  • School Y (Received / Did Not Receive)
  • School Z (Received / Did Not Receive)
  • ETC.
Essays:
  • Identify the essay, give brief blurb about gist of the essay (Self-Evaluate x/10)
Physical Fitness Test Scores:
  • Push-ups (Insert Time): Number
  • Sit-ups (Insert Time): Number
  • Mile (Insert Distance): Time
Professor of Military Science Interview:
  • Provide brief overview of interview, what you wore, what was asked, what you did well, what you could have done better (Self-Evaluate x/10)
Other Comments:
  • Advice for future applicants
  • Other reflection
 
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JOHNKIM1883

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Status: Received
ROTC Classification: Army
Board: 2nd
Scholarship Type: 4 year

Demographics (Optional):
  • Gender: Male
  • Ethnicity/Race: Asian (Chinese, Korean)
Academic Information:
  • SAT: 1540 (740R/800M)
  • ACT: N/A
  • Unweighted Cumulative GPA: 3.90 / 4.00
Activities (Athletics):
  • Track and Field (9/10)
  • Athletic Honors & Awards - Other (9/10)
Activities (Extracurricular)
  • Scholastic Honors & Awards - National or State (9/11)
  • Scholastic Honors & Awards - Other (9/10)
  • Leadership Honors & Awards - National or State (11/12)
  • Master/Mistress of Ceremonies (9/10/11)
  • Band - Member (9)
  • Church - Group Member (9/10/11)
  • Paid Work - < 9 Hours per week (9/10/11/12)
  • Boy Scouts - Eagle Scout (11/12)
  • Boy Scouts - Member (9/10/11/12)
  • Boy Scouts - Troop Leader/Officer (9/10/11/12)
  • Boy Scouts - Patrol Officer (9/10/11/12)
  • Volunteer - 5-10 Hours per month (9/10/11/12)
  • Service Organization - Member (9/10/11/12)
  • Service Organization - Leadership Position (9/10/11/12)
Awards:
  • AP Scholar With Distinction - Recognized for receiving an average score of at least 3.5 on all AP exams taken and scores of 3 or higher on five or more of those exams. Included Human Geography (5), Calculus BC (4), Chemistry (4), Psychology (5), and US History (5).
  • National Merit Scholar Commended - Received a National Merit Scholarship Letter of Commendation in recognition of outstanding academic promise by earning a PSAT score in the top 3.3% nationwide
  • Eagle Scout Award - Highest Rank in Scouting
  • Eagle Scout Palm - After attaining the highest rank in Boy Scouts (earned by 2% of Scouts), served troop in various leadership positions, volunteer in service projects, and conduct conference after earning 26 merit badges
  • 2nd Degree Black Belt -Proficient in forms and sparring techniques. Awarded silver medal for sparring at an international tournament. Mentor and instruct pupils on forms and sparring.
Schools of Intent:
  • University of Southern California (Received)
  • Vanderbilt University (Received)
  • Duke University (Received)
  • Northwestern University (Received)
  • University of Virginia (Did Not Receive)
  • University of Michigan (Did Not Receive)
  • UCLA (Did Not Receive)
Essays:
  • Why I want to enroll in ROTC: talked about my experience at the West Point SLE and how it strengthened my resolve to pursue a career in the military but how I wanted a civilian college experience and the opportunity to choose a wider range of majors (8/10, narrative format, pretty good)
  • Typical week at school: described waking up, going to class, exercising, working, and Scouting (6/10, nothing special)
Physical Fitness Test Scores:
  • Push-ups (1-minute): 43
  • Sit-ups (1-minute): 44
  • Mile (1 mile): 6:39
Professor of Military Science Interview:
  • Talked about my classes, interest in ROTC, schools that I am applying to, asked questions about the structure and time commitment of the ROTC program
  • Wore a button down long sleeve blue shirt, navy blue slacks, belt, and black dress shoes
  • Brought a resume and a list of questions that I used during appropriate time
  • Self-Score: 8/10
Other Comments:
  • For future applicants, get your standardized test scores and transcripts in ASAP so that you can be an interviewee, as getting ahold of an interviewer and scheduling is arguably the most time consuming
  • Download a pdf version of the SAT / ACT score and upload the pdf to save $12 so that you don't waste it sending it via collegeboard
  • Be aware that there is a survey asking you about your demeanor / ways you cope with stress. You can only take it once, so be aware that it exists. Answer the questions honestly anyways.
  • Don't forget that the 1-1-1 ROTC PFT is a reduced version of the 2-2-2 APFT! Shoutout to @AROTC-dad for the reminder that no pass means no pay!
  • I'll be looking into completing my DODMERB ASAP.
  • Good luck to all current and future applicants. PM me if you have any questions about the application. Go Army! Beat Navy!
 
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Status: Received
ROTC Classification: Army / Navy / Air Force
Board: 2nd
Scholarship Type: 4yr Army / Navy
Type 7 Air Force

Demographics (Optional):
  • Gender: Male
  • Ethnicity / Race: White
Academic Information:
  • SAT: 1450 (750m 700r)
  • ACT: N/A
  • Unweighted Cumulative GPA: 3.69
Activities (Athletics):
  • 3 year varsity track athlete
  • 2 year varsity cross country athlete
  • cross-country team captain
Activities (Extracurricular):
  • Eagle Scout
  • Boys State
  • Band Section Leader
  • 200 volunteer hours through church, clubs, ect
Awards:
  • AP Scholar with Distinction
Schools of Intent:

For Army Only

  • University of Southern California (Received)
  • University of California, Los Angeles (Received)
  • Boston University (Received)
  • Santa Clara University (Not Received)
  • University of Michigan (Not Received)
  • University of Colorado (Not Received)
  • University of Washington, Seattle (Not Received)

Essays:
  • Wrote about my goals of service and how my I have been active in athletics and other stuff (8/10)
Physical Fitness Test Scores:
  • Push-ups (1 minute): 41
  • Sit-ups (1 minute): 63
  • Mile (1 mile): 5:38
Professor of Military Science Interview:
  • It was at USC, I spoke a lot about my desires to be an Army pilot and someone people can rely on to watch their backs. Very comfortable, but I enjoy interviewing. (Self-Evaluate 9/5/10)
Other Comments:
  • Keep your heads up dudes, there still lots more time and there's in school scholarships too!
 

Jcleppe

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Everyone gets too wrapped up in comparing Stats. There is a lot more that goes into the process that can't be measured by hard stats. Listing stats for every applicant will only add to the stress of whether someone measures up to what's posted. There are awards for scholarships given every year to applicants with stats all across the board. There are intangibles that can't be measured by stats that go a long way in the scholarship process. School selections can play a part in the process. To be honest having a thread that lists individual stats just muddys the waters. The process looks at the whole person score, while someone may have a lower ACT they may have terrific leadership they want to see. Even the type of leadership can make a difference. Spending time trying to compare stats takes a lot of energy better spent elsewhere.
 

MythyLW

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Everyone gets too wrapped up in comparing Stats. There is a lot more that goes into the process that can't be measured by hard stats. Listing stats for every applicant will only add to the stress of whether someone measures up to what's posted. There are awards for scholarships given every year to applicants with stats all across the board. There are intangibles that can't be measured by stats that go a long way in the scholarship process. School selections can play a part in the process. To be honest having a thread that lists individual stats just muddys the waters. The process looks at the whole person score, while someone may have a lower ACT they may have terrific leadership they want to see. Even the type of leadership can make a difference. Spending time trying to compare stats takes a lot of energy better spent elsewhere.
Several people if stats are not posted will be asking, even though there is much more in the process it can at least give someone a hint of what people in the process are doing. It does no harm, and a student can avoid it.
 

Jcleppe

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That's the issue, it gives them a snapshot, not the whole picture, applicants can become frustrated or even decide they don't measure up. What's worse is always leads to applicants wondering why someone else got an award while they think their stats were better.

Imagine the conversation if I posted that my son's ACT was 24 and GPA was 3.5....well I guess I just did. The point is when he applied he received a first board award to 4 schools. This is what I mean about stats not telling the whole story.
 
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That's the issue, it gives them a snapshot, not the whole picture, applicants can become frustrated or even decide they don't measure up. What's worse is always leads to applicants wondering why someone else got an award while they think their stats were better.

Imagine the conversation if I posted that my son's ACT was 24 and GPA was 3.5....well I guess I just did. The point is when he applied he received a first board award to 4 schools. This is what I mean about stats not telling the whole story.
Yep, your post proves your point well. I have a 3.6 GPA, and a 26 ACT, yet I haven’t gotten a scholarship.
 

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Yep, your post proves your point well. I have a 3.6 GPA, and a 26 ACT, yet I haven’t gotten a scholarship.
I was given the impression that what made me "brief so well," as my interviewing officer said, was the qualities I showed during my interview. She commended my passion for serving and maturity over a list of sports and grades/scores... depends on the board, too I guess!
(NROTC MO 4 yr early board, btw)

Though if you're applying Marine Option... they did mention pull-ups more than anything else...
"Do pull-ups every day."
 
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Yep, your post proves your point well. I have a 3.6 GPA, and a 26 ACT, yet I haven’t gotten a scholarship.
I was given the impression that what made me "brief so well," as my interviewing officer said, was the qualities I showed during my interview. She commended my passion for serving and maturity over a list of sports and grades/scores... depends on the board, too I guess!
(NROTC MO 4 yr early board, btw)

Though if you're applying Marine Option... they did mention pull-ups more than anything else...
"Do pull-ups every day."
Just AROTC for me.
 

ders_dad

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I hope this doesn’t sound harsh.

I will not post DS’s stats - he has received an NROTC scholarship and we are gratetful and humbled. I’ve viewed this forum long enough to know how useless such data points such as stats are. The sampling size is insufficient to draw conclusions. Multivariate analyses would be necessary and the data just won’t allow it. If DS does not obtain an appointment to his SA I could see posting his “stats” but only in the context of his perceived weaknesses (we know them) to help future applicants know that it is more than the stats. This is a crap shoot and there is much that cannot be known. Do well in school, be a leader and a team player, and understand that to serve is the greatest thing one can aspire to.
 

shock-n-awe

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Every Applicant has looked at stats at some time or another. Whether it’s a class profile or averages listed by the scholarship type etc.. Even average ( not minimum) CFA scores are used by candidates to measure where they may need to improve.
This thread ( and many others)is just another minute sampling for those curious lurkers about how they may compare.
Theses snapshots can help motivate some to push harder, and discourage others from even trying.
Bottom line is to bust your butt and put your best package together in all areas if whatever it is your applying for is what you truly want.
Remember, “quit” is a four letter word.
Don’t be discouraged, only motivated....
 

GoCubbies

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I think there is some value in threads like this.

It’s one of the many data points a candidate can use to gauge the likelihood of a scholarship and set expectations. Used in the right context, it can be really useful for many applicants.

Again, it’s just a data point. Weed out the extra noise/static. Take what’s important. Come up with a plan to improve/maintain your personal stats and set expectations.

Before my DD applied for a scholarship, she knew the average GPA and ACT of a 4 year winner. She also knew the scoring chart for the PFA. She knew some of the potential questions the PMS will ask her. All this stuff were available on this forum or other public venues. I helped her to weed out the background noise and to recommend which data are important.

She did well overall in her application process.
 

PVET

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As an applicant myself, the stats really weren’t of much help during the actual process. It just made me more frustrated and worried about my future. However, I will say stats are more important after the fact. Looking at them afterward, really gives you a lesson on reality. If you didn’t get a scholarship, then you are able to look at others who did and improve yourself for the future. If you did get one, then it’s nice to get an idea of what other kids did.
 

Donkopolous

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I think there is some value in threads like this.

It’s one of the many data points a candidate can use to gauge the likelihood of a scholarship and set expectations. Used in the right context, it can be really useful for many applicants.

Again, it’s just a data point. Weed out the extra noise/static. Take what’s important. Come up with a plan to improve/maintain your personal stats and set expectations.

Before my DD applied for a scholarship, she knew the average GPA and ACT of a 4 year winner. She also knew the scoring chart for the PFA. She knew some of the potential questions the PMS will ask her. All this stuff were available on this forum or other public venues. I helped her to weed out the background noise and to recommend which data are important.

She did well overall in her application process.
I think stats do make a difference. I believe my essay or survey, or both, have left me out of the 1st and 2nd board:

GPA: 3.64 (UW) / 3.94 (W)
SAT: 1290
ACT: N/A
PFA: 53 PU/55 SU/6:00m flat run (NROTIC-MO) 241 and 269 (last Friday)
AFQT: 95/99 (MO) - Asked about Aviation. Navy officer asked me about Nuclear Program as well. Took another ASVAB based test for Nuclear and passed. They were just qualifying if I could make Enlisted requirements. Not going enlisted.
Colleges: Accepted to every one (7 Army / 5 NROTC MO) Two Honors and 12 Engineering Programs. (7 Civil, 1 Construction Eng, 1 Geo Eng, 2 Electrical, 1 Robotic)
Honors / AP: 4 and 3 - AP 4 Score tests for College Credits
Volunteer: 12 hours a week for last 3+ years during school / 18 during summer - (School Tutoring, Church, Homelessness)
NHS Member - Tutoring too (Friend I tutored for Math received 3 year AD last year)
7 time State Scholar Athlete Award - still have last Sr. Semester
3 year football player (Fr, JV, and Varsity - Team Capt x 2, Special Teams Capt and MIP - Tore Labrum, had surgery, opted out of Sr. Football - Backup got accepted to USNA two weeks ago)
4 year lacrosse player (Fr/Soph, Varsity 3 years - Team Capt x 3)
4 year lacrosse travel team both US and International (Team Captain x 4)
3 year Ultra/Elite Category Racer - (Ragnarok, Rugged Maniac, and Spartan)
2 time Evike Outpost Team Lead - Nationally

Football and Lacrosse take up over 20 hours a week. Not including weight room and film time.
I took the SAT several times and again just recently but my score did not improve :(
My PMS interview late July was very good at a school I really like and know is a bit of a reach.....

I took the essays and surveys pretty straight forward. Should have put more into it. The Marines I am working through for the last 7 months have me working out with the poolies, getting to know me every Mon, Wed, Fri and Sat at times. I am holding out hope for the Army as I want to be a Combat Engineer/Sapper but the MO under the NROTC is pretty awesome. *sigh* see where it ends. HS for me ends early May.
 
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