So you just won an AROTC Scholarship- what now.

franknd said:
Okay, I think I understand. So an upgraded 3AD means that the 3AD received from CC goes away (never to return) and transforms into a campus-based 3.5 or 4 year. If that's what he means, then I do understand, and it makes sense why programs wouldn't make that deal. I was thinking that a program could just "add to" the 3AD, but that apparently isn't how it works.
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That is my understanding, but I am also not 100% sure.
 
franknd said:
Okay, I think I understand. So an upgraded 3AD means that the 3AD received from CC goes away (never to return) and transforms into a campus-based 3.5 or 4 year. If that's what he means, then I do understand, and it makes sense why programs wouldn't make that deal. I was thinking that a program could just "add to" the 3AD, but that apparently isn't how it works.
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In 4 years I’ve seen 2x 3AD scholarships upgraded to 3.5yrs. So while possible it is very unlikely and I wouldn’t count on it nor nag the ROO by asking.
 
Montana State Army ROTC said:
Congrats. You just won. Now what? Cadet Command will send you a letter and you must accept the scholarship. You get 30 days to accept. If you don’t the next person on the list gets an offer.

Start getting in shape and stay in shape. Far too often students show up out of shape and can’t contract. Don’t be that guy/gal. It’s embarrassing especially when we have to tell your parents the truth after you told them there are administrative problems on why the school is charging you for tuition instead of the Army.

Pass your DODMERB. You can’t contract without a qualified medical.

Get ready for college. Its challenging and different and difficult for alot of freshmen.

Get motivated.
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I'm not sure if it depends on the program, but when do cadets usually get contracted? Is it sometime at the start of the school year(depending on whether you're a 4 vs 3AD)? Just something I've been curious about.
 
franknd said:
Okay, I think I understand. So an upgraded 3AD means that the 3AD received from CC goes away (never to return) and transforms into a campus-based 3.5 or 4 year. If that's what he means, then I do understand, and it makes sense why programs wouldn't make that deal. I was thinking that a program could just "add to" the 3AD, but that apparently isn't how it works.
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Sorry for the late reply, but basically yes. Each Fiscal Year has X dollars attached to it for scholarships. So that Freshman Year, the 3YR scholarship winner is not funded. However, that school could be funded for .5 yr for a Freshman. They could give that .5 yr to upgrade the 3YR winner, or use it to award a new 3.5 scholarship. All contracted scholarships will be funded for follow on years, but their is not guarantee of new funding allocations for new scholarships every fiscal year.
 
VisionofConflux said:
I'm not sure if it depends on the program, but when do cadets usually get contracted? Is it sometime at the start of the school year(depending on whether you're a 4 vs 3AD)? Just something I've been curious about.
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Earliest you can contract is first day of the term the scholarship starts- assuming you are medically qualified and pass the pt test
 
Montana State Army ROTC said:
Earliest you can contract is first day of the term the scholarship starts- assuming you are medically qualified and pass the pt test
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Interesting, so just by going how everything is looking to work out.....I think I will only have 3 years of college to go through, not sure how it’ll work with a 3AD scholarship, but I’m working on getting medically qualified ASAP and improving upon my PT. Thank you for answering my question!!!
 
Rotc is a 4 year program. They wont let you graduate early. Or if you convince them you are the army will only pay for your last 2 years.
 
Montana State Army ROTC said:
Rotc is a 4 year program. They wont let you graduate early. Or if you convince them you are the army will only pay for your last 2 years.
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Ye, it's just really confusing as I am a high school student that would be graduating with an associates degree.......it all just gets confusing, as I said, but from what I heard, my time would only get shortened if everything works out a certain way. In regards to the army only paying for the last 2 years....I would hope that wouldn't be the case or if it is then I hope I can possibly get my scholarship upgraded.
 
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VisionofConflux said:
Ye, it's just really confusing as I am a high school student that would be graduating with an associates degree.......it all just gets confusing, as I said, but from what I heard, my time would only get shortened if everything works out a certain way. In regards to the army only paying for the last 2 years....I would hope that wouldn't be the case or if it is then I hope I can possibly get my scholarship upgraded.
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From everything I have read if you received a 3 year it does not go in effect your first year even if you have credits that put you ahead. Perhaps look into a double major or taking some graduate level classes as an undergraduate vs. graduating a year early so that you are able to take full advantage of the scholarship.
 
kippyku said:
From everything I have read if you received a 3 year it does not go in effect your first year even if you have credits that put you ahead. Perhaps look into a double major or taking some graduate level classes as an undergraduate vs. graduating a year early so that you are able to take full advantage of the scholarship.
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A 3-yr starts at the beginning of your sophomore year after you complete DODMerb and the fitness test. It is a 3 year scholarship, independent of inbound college credits.
 
EEBTTF said:
A 3-yr starts at the beginning of your sophomore year after you complete DODMerb and the fitness test. It is a 3 year scholarship, independent of inbound college credits.
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So even though I would come in with the associates, as long as I am medically qualified and pass the fitness test then I should be fine to actually receive benefits from the scholarship? This is where it gets all confusing because it states that the scholarship can be applied during my sophomore year of college, however, after discussions with the ROO at my intended school he said that I will probably have my time shortened to 3 years for college(would be 2 years but due to ROTC I have it spread to 3 because I have to complete the basic courses) and possibly get waived/be able to work around the MS1 class requirements due to my involvement in JROTC. All that I hope is that I can take full advantage of the scholarship as it is a huge blessing to even have. I suppose this is more of a talk to have with the PMS, ROO, and advisor are my intended school I suppose. Again, it’s just all confusing because of how the scholarship works and when it is applied.
 
kippyku said:
From everything I have read if you received a 3 year it does not go in effect your first year even if you have credits that put you ahead. Perhaps look into a double major or taking some graduate level classes as an undergraduate vs. graduating a year early so that you are able to take full advantage of the scholarship.
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I’m not sure, it’s not like I’m coming in with a handful of credits like most scholarship recipients. I’m coming in with a full associates as a fresh grad from high school. I’ll continue to do research but from all that I have read, it’s all about sophomore year rather than getting the scholarship pushed back by the Army a year
 
VisionofConflux said:
So even though I would come in with the associates, as long as I am medically qualified and pass the fitness test then I should be fine to actually receive benefits from the scholarship? This is where it gets all confusing because it states that the scholarship can be applied during my sophomore year of college, however, after discussions with the ROO at my intended school he said that I will probably have my time shortened to 3 years for college(would be 2 years but due to ROTC I have it spread to 3 because I have to complete the basic courses) and possibly get waived/be able to work around the MS1 class requirements due to my involvement in JROTC. All that I hope is that I can take full advantage of the scholarship as it is a huge blessing to even have. I suppose this is more of a talk to have with the PMS, ROO, and advisor are my intended school I suppose. Again, it’s just all confusing because of how the scholarship works and when it is applied.
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Its not confusing. It will not pay your first year.
 
Montana State Army ROTC said:
Its not confusing. It will not pay your first year.
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Is there a reason as to why because all that I’ve seen is that as long as I am medically qualified and pass the fitness test my sophomore year then I can utilize the scholarship. Just not a lot of details pertaining to my situation so I’m just looking to learn as much as I can about it and find the best way that I can utilize my associates with the scholarship. Any advice as to the best course of action?
 
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VisionofConflux said:
Just not a lot of details pertaining to my situation so I’m just looking to learn as much as I can about it and find the best way that I can utilize my associates with the scholarship. Any advice as to the best course of action?
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You’ve now received plenty of information from a couple of our resident experts on ROTC. Seems that the next best step is to contact Cadet Command directly and get resolution from the primary authority, rather than continuing to fish here for a explanation (none of which are to your satisfaction).

Remember that there are two parties to this agreement. There’s you, and you understandably don’t want to do more than is absolutely necessary to gain your bachelors degree. And then there’s the Army, which has a system for training officers-to-be that follows a certain timeline. Ultimately, the needs of the Army — whatever they may be — will take precedence. There may be a point of compromise that you find. But if not, why not make the most of the situation by grabbing more education at the Army’s expense? Seems like a sound win-win.
 
While it may be a bit unusual to graduate high school with an associates degree, it is fairly common for the types of students that compete for ROTC scholarships to have much more than just a handful of college credits when they do. If the school you are attending does not have flat tuition you could take the minimum allowed hours your first year to save some money (most likely 12) to reduce costs and allow time to also work. Also keep in mind if your school requires the ROTC classes to be taken for credit. Where my DD is planning on going it is a minimum of 24 hours (and a minor in Military Science) of ROTC courses. That is how many credits she will have from high school, so for her it evens out.
 
VisionofConflux said:
@kippyku and @MidCakePa thank you for the insight and advice.
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Good luck. I know that all colleges are extremely expensive these days and it can be cost prohibitive to pay for both tuition plus room and board for even just one year. We knew that there was a very good chance that our DD would not have her first year covered based on her ACT score, so she only applied to state schools including one that is local. Look into the options with the schools you received the scholarship to, but a backup plan might be requesting a transfer to a school where you can live at home the first year.
 
Thank you @Montana State Army ROTC, I guess im just stressing a little

kippyku said:
Good luck. I know that all colleges are extremely expensive these days and it can be cost prohibitive to pay for both tuition plus room and board for even just one year. We knew that there was a very good chance that our DD would not have her first year covered based on her ACT score, so she only applied to state schools including one that is local. Look into the options with the schools you received the scholarship to, but a backup plan might be requesting a transfer to a school where you can live at home the first year.
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The plan was to live at home and thankfully I live right where my top choice school is. Everything happens for a reason I guess.
 
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