Chances at AROTC and AFROTC Scholarships

MyROTC123

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Hello! This is my first post on this forum, I have been reading a lot of the previous posts and thought I would start my own. Any replies, advice, and/or constructive criticism would be much appreciate.

I have just completed the AROTC application and interview this coming week, I also plan on filling out AFROTC too. My stats and involvement is as follows:

Scholastic:

28 ACT composite, 9 on writing
3.7 GPA unweighted
10/60 class rank

2 AP classes (didn’t take tests)
2 dual credit classes
5 online college classes
Should have 24 credits by hs graduation

Athletics:

Football varsity 3 years, 3 letters (current)
Track varsity 2 years, 2 letters (by graduation)
Golf JV 9th and 10th grade

Extracurriculars:

Key Club
Business Professionals of America (BPA)
Placed 2nd at state for interview and went to
national competition because of state
placement.
Family, Career, and Community Leaders of America (FCCLA)
Started recycling program at my school,
earned 2nd at state in advocacy, got top gold
at national competition for project.
Spanish Club
Student Government
National Honor Society

Leadership:

Student Council president 12th grade
Class secretary 9th grade
Class vice president 10th grade
BPA secretary 11th grade
Key Club reporter 10th grade
Key Club president 11th grade
Key Club district lieutenant governor (oversee 5 clubs across state)

Fitness Test:
PFA
50 pushups
49
7:18 mile

AFPFT
49 pushups
43 situps
11:37 1.5 mile

Honors:


Honor roll all semesters
Academic all state
BPA Statesman Torch Award
NHS

what would you say my chances are of getting AROTC and AFROTC? I haven’t interviewed any tips? Any tips in general? I have been reading everything I can online about these scholarships and I definitely want to be an officer in the military. Thanks so much.
 

kinnem

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I wold say you have a fair to good chance but we won't be in your interview or read your essays, etc.... so no one knows for sure. I would say your mile run time could use some improvement. That's not to say it's not good enough, as I don't really know, but the scholarship process IS a competition.
 

Walman888

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Take the SAT, get the mile times down. You've been busy and are obviously a competitive personality. All good there. This process will try your patience. Understand that first and foremost. Set your expectations for the long haul. Try to improve your scores no matter where they stand. Show growth over time and the desired to continue to improve. Best thing you can do. Don't compare yourself to others, just work on you. Let them know in the interviews that you want a career, not just a five and dive college education.
 

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I don't think there is anything wrong with five and dive but I certainly wouldn't lead with that. I would stress that you want to serve (or whatever is the right way to express it for you). People who do a "five and dive" have still served this country honorably and I, for one, appreciate their service.
 

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I don't think there is anything wrong with five and dive but I certainly wouldn't lead with that. I would stress that you want to serve (or whatever is the right way to express it for you). People who do a "five and dive" have still served this country honorably and I, for one, appreciate their service.
My point is that a long term investment sounds better to an interviewer. I don't use "Five and Dive" in a negative fashion, just common jargon. I certainly don't consider five years of service dishonorable in any way. No offense meant.
 

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My point is that a long term investment sounds better to an interviewer. I don't use "Five and Dive" in a negative fashion, just common jargon. I certainly don't consider five years of service dishonorable in any way. No offense meant.
Didn't take any... my comment was aimed at the OP who is relatively new to all this.
 

Dckc88

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Don‘t stress about the comment to take the SAT, it is too late for that since you are currently a senior, You are competitive for Army, as far as what your chances are, none of us can say, and there is the interviewer comments, the survey and your essay that no one can guess about, A 7:18 mile is also fine, that one thing is not going to effect much at all, the run itself accounts for a max 50 points out of the 1400 for the application, and you did well on the other two sections, basically you have done your job. You have applied, now it is time to wait. Have your plan B and C ready, even if you don’t get a scholarship during the national boards there are campus scholarships available. Keep checking in here, and ask as many questions as you would like. My DD received a scholarship in 2016, and is a MS4 and will commission in May, so I am familiar with how hard the scholarship wait is, and all the waiting she has done since. For you, this is the first hurry up and wait you have encountered with this process , having to get your application in and then wait for the boards to convene and maybe even future boards, but this will not be your last experience of having to have patience even though you are feeling anxious. Good luck and keep us posted!

EDIT: I just reread your original post and realized you have not interviewed yet. If you feel confident you can lower the run and have time to retest prior to the interview then do it, if not, then it most likely will be what it is and don’t lose sleep over it! It seems that most PMS want the PFT at time of interview.
 

MyROTC123

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Don‘t stress about the comment to take the SAT, it is too late for that since you are currently a senior, You are competitive for Army, as far as what your chances are, none of us can say, and there is the interviewer comments, the survey and your essay that no one can guess about, A 7:18 mile is also fine, that one thing is not going to effect much at all, the run itself accounts for a max 50 points out of the 1400 for the application, and you did well on the other two sections, basically you have done your job. You have applied, now it is time to wait. Have your plan B and C ready, even if you don’t get a scholarship during the national boards there are campus scholarships available. Keep checking in here, and ask as many questions as you would like. My DD received a scholarship in 2016, and is a MS4 and will commission in May, so I am familiar with how hard the scholarship wait is, and all the waiting she has done since. For you, this is the first hurry up and wait you have encountered with this process , having to get your application in and then wait for the boards to convene and maybe even future boards, but this will not be your last experience of having to have patience even though you are feeling anxious. Good luck and keep us posted!

EDIT: I just reread your original post and realized you have not interviewed yet. If you feel confident you can lower the run and have time to retest prior to the interview then do it, if not, then it most likely will be what it is and don’t lose sleep over it! It seems that most PMS want the PFT at time of interview.
Thank you so much. I appreciate your advice and will keep it in mind.
 

MyROTC123

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Take the SAT, get the mile times down. You've been busy and are obviously a competitive personality. All good there. This process will try your patience. Understand that first and foremost. Set your expectations for the long haul. Try to improve your scores no matter where they stand. Show growth over time and the desired to continue to improve. Best thing you can do. Don't compare yourself to others, just work on you. Let them know in the interviews that you want a career, not just a five and dive college education.
Thank you for your reply, I appreciate the wisdom.
 

MyROTC123

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I wold say you have a fair to good chance but we won't be in your interview or read your essays, etc.... so no one knows for sure. I would say your mile run time could use some improvement. That's not to say it's not good enough, as I don't really know, but the scholarship process IS a competition.
Thank you for your reply and advice. Would you have any advice for me on my upcoming interview by chance?
 

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Hey, one more thing while you wait. I realize you are new so you may not have seen this blog post from one of our members who is also a ROO (Recruiting Operations Ofifer) for Army ROTC. This is from 2012, so the number breakdown might be different, however, the advice and the basic Idea is the same!I hope it helps give more perspective around the process.

 

thibaud

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Significantly higher chance for AROTC than for AFROTC.

To be a competitive AFROTC HSSP applicant, you'll probably need to boost your ACT and lower your 1.5 mile run time. That said, if you can ace the interview you will have a decent shot at an AFROTC scholarship. Probably best at this stage to focus on interview prep above all else.
 

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One thing that is different about AFROTC compared to AROTC and NROTC is the only thing they take into account for your senior yr is a new SAT/ACT scores. They only review everything else through your 11th grade. IE They will not see student council president as a senior, nor any sports you are doing currently.

I agree with others that your run time is a little slow. Your ACT is on the low end of the spectrum, but just a tad low for a type 7. The avg for type 7 is @29.

Additionally remember that like NROTC, 80-85% go to tech (STEM) degrees. If you are intending to major in business, than you really do want to bump up that ACT or try the SAT. Also, understand that AFROTC does not superscore, it is best sitting.

Significantly higher chance for AROTC than for AFROTC
Although I agree with thibaud, I am always opposed to this thought process....scholarship money is the driving force. ROTC is ROTC, it is not 24/7, 4 yrs, 365 days a yr. You get to choose your college degree, they will choose your career for the following 4 yrs. You select where you will go to college (reside), they will select where you will live for 4 yrs.
It is a very heavy price to pay if you are not committed to that branch. Their missions are different, their lifestyles are different. You need to think about after college too, bc they (military branch) own you. Don't want to drive a tank, than AROTC may not be a good fit. Want to fly a rotor over a fixed wing, than AROTC is probably a better fit than AFROTC. If you want to do cyber than all of them will work.

Just my 0.02 cents and with $2.07 more you can buy a small coffee at Starbucks.
 
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